2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything."
Brooklyn
Chicago
Arizona
left, right, hillary, bernie it doesnt matter.
we need a comprehensive overhaul of our voting with a national policy put into place combined with paper receipts and constant audits.
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/4/21/1518460/-Election-Fraud-Proven-at-Audit-by-Chicago-BOE-flipped-precinct-by-18pts-from-Bernie-to-Hillary
Igel
(35,317 posts)We need more insights from the Great Leader.
(Now, had you merely retweeted Stalin, that would have been a horrendous thing.)
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)why the fuck didn't you guys all volunteer to help and watch the count?
Instead you whine about every single fucking state you lost. You all start complaining about the suppression, miscounting etc even before the votes are cast. One could have imagined by now that you'd all be a little more pro active and finally get ahead of the curve.
boomer55
(592 posts)So stfu
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)where our political parties both work diligently to keep people from voting? Whether it is closed primaries, dumped voter registrations, voter roll purges, reduced polling places, insane registration requirements, etc? I personally find something very wrong with that, not really sure why you don't....or wouldn't.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)The voting rules have not changed. So how are they or the people trying to play within this long standing construct, devolving?
What is disheartening are the disingenious complaints now, in 2016, when those very same rules should have been changed YEARS ago since the policy and process is so distasteful. Complaining now as if anyone in this game in this year had a hand in creating is as it stands today is just a falsehood.
Don't like the rules fine, I don't either, but attempting to lay the blame on DNC, Hillary or Hillary supporters is just wrong. I'm of the mind that if things are causing you so much angst...do something constructive instead of whining and blaming others for a situation that exists because of your ( the collective your) inaction.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Takes a while for the CBC to broadcast the winner, but, hey! It's better than having it go to Katherine Harris.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)But Hillary is still winning.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)accept that all the shenanigans don't matter.
It started with IA, where the head of the party
refused to share the raw counts.
I don't trust any of the results and believe that
this whole primary had been decided by the DNC
ahead of time.
Considering everything, including what will happen
in the GE, I am not sure that it is worth my time to vote.
Oh, its not worth your time to vote? The Republican frontrunner is threatening to punish women who have abortions, deport 11 million families, start 3 wars, and make racism codified law, but dont worry, you just stay home and take it easy that day, wouldnt want to inconvenience you.
I guess dont even worry about downticket races either, does it really even matter who your senator or governor is anyway?
Solidarity,
Janey V.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)by who has control of the voting machines in the GE.
Good luck with that, considering Ohio in 04.
pat_k
(9,313 posts)snowy owl
(2,145 posts)Does that spell H Y P O C R I S Y?
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)instead of always sending him overseas, to make sure all is going well. I have said for years..."I want that". Hand counted paper ballots and purple fingers, like Iraq. All the money we spent on Iraq, and we don't have that integrity here...soldiers standing around, making sure there are ballots, etc. FFS!