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J_J_

(1,213 posts)
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:24 PM Apr 2016

Election officials dismiss scanning machine reporting significant differences from hand count

Chicago Election Fraud proof

Beginning 25min mark to 45 min mark



In one example noted during video, 21 Bernie votes were erased and 49 Hillary votes added to audit tally in order to match machine count. In this one precinct, this change from the actual results accounted for nearly 20% of overall votes cast. The actual tally was 56.7% in Bernie's favor. After count was manipulated by machine he lost with 47.5% of vote. A whopping 18.4% swing.

EDIT: This is probably happening everywhere. The only way anything positive will out of this is if people in Illinois share this with their Delegates and Super Delegates and ask them (politely) to look into it and consider not supporting HC during the Democratic Convention.

( From reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/4fvner/election_official_ousted_for_error_that_purged/ )
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Election officials dismiss scanning machine reporting significant differences from hand count (Original Post) J_J_ Apr 2016 OP
It's working for Hillary... dchill Apr 2016 #1
Hate machines apcalc Apr 2016 #2
Was there ever any doubt? The fix is in. djean111 Apr 2016 #3
here is a link to support the illinois ballot integrity project questionseverything Apr 2016 #4
That is NOT an audit. I count 10 votes for Bernie 4 for Hillary. But the official results say Skwmom Apr 2016 #5
I agree, All our vote counts should be recorded and in Public. Ridiculous to even make 'adjustments' Sunlei Apr 2016 #11
The Recount totals should be used to see if there is a problem and if so do total recount. Skwmom Apr 2016 #14
In the end, it's the paper printout that matters, NOT the numbers reported on election night. reformist2 Apr 2016 #12
Kick DebDoo Apr 2016 #6
Audit Recount Fraud: Hand Recount of Votes changed to match Official Results. Skwmom Apr 2016 #7
This is what happens when you put Republicans in charge scscholar Apr 2016 #8
the chicago board of elections is not repub controlled questionseverything Apr 2016 #10
If it can happen in the primary it certainly can happen in the general election. pa28 Apr 2016 #9
Simply amazing kaleckim Apr 2016 #13
richard charnin has a math background and has done great analysis questionseverything Apr 2016 #15
Thanks, good analysis. "There is a 99.9% probability that this anomaly was not due to chance and... Sunlei Apr 2016 #16
i think local control is best but we need election boards held to account questionseverything Apr 2016 #17
K & R pdsimdars Apr 2016 #18
K&R dchill Apr 2016 #19
How is this not news? northernsouthern Apr 2016 #20
This entire primary election has been a farce. smiley Apr 2016 #21
I agree. I've seen NO signs of such widespread support for Hillary in real life. reformist2 Apr 2016 #22

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
4. here is a link to support the illinois ballot integrity project
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:30 PM
Apr 2016
https://www.gofundme.com/auditchicagovote

they say @ 1:17 they have evidence of erasing bernie votes and adding hc votes....lets help them get the boe in court

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
5. That is NOT an audit. I count 10 votes for Bernie 4 for Hillary. But the official results say
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:36 PM
Apr 2016

3 for Bernie and 11 for Hillary, so I ADJUST my recount totals to say I counted 3 votes for Bernie and 11 Votes for Hillary.

Do you understand what a SCAM that is. They need to change the law to allow filming of the recount to be publicly aired.



Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
11. I agree, All our vote counts should be recorded and in Public. Ridiculous to even make 'adjustments'
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:46 PM
Apr 2016

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
14. The Recount totals should be used to see if there is a problem and if so do total recount.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:09 PM
Apr 2016

Otherwise, what use is there in even auditing the results?

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
12. In the end, it's the paper printout that matters, NOT the numbers reported on election night.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:50 PM
Apr 2016

What the auditors need to do whenever there is a discrepancy, is to get an accurate count from the paper printout, perhaps requiring multiple people counting the same paper printout, and then changing the official results to match the paper results, not the other way around!

This issue is not going away.

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
10. the chicago board of elections is not repub controlled
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:46 PM
Apr 2016

this is clear cover up for inaccurate results by democrats

pa28

(6,145 posts)
9. If it can happen in the primary it certainly can happen in the general election.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:43 PM
Apr 2016

Too bad there is such a wall of denial still over election fraud.

kaleckim

(651 posts)
13. Simply amazing
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:51 PM
Apr 2016

Isn't it odd that whenever there are odd things happening like this, it always benefits one candidate? Has there been any of these types of voting issues that would have likely hurt Clinton? Anyone have a background on statistical probability?

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
16. Thanks, good analysis. "There is a 99.9% probability that this anomaly was not due to chance and...
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:36 PM
Apr 2016

"There is a 99.9% probability that this anomaly was not due to chance and must have been the result of election fraud."

A quote from the linked article by Richard Charnin

I'm assuming election fraud at local levels by some individuals. Somehow we Americans need our elections removed from LOCAL control. Even local and state elections need OUR Federal Governments control of voting.

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
17. i think local control is best but we need election boards held to account
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:48 PM
Apr 2016

when they cover up inaccurate results, as we have seen with the chicago board of elections

smiley

(1,432 posts)
21. This entire primary election has been a farce.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:51 PM
Apr 2016

The enthusiasm for Hillary seems to exist only on DU, Kos, and the MSM. I suspect most of this support is bought and paid for. And without a doubt I believe the numbers have been doctored to give her win.

Anyone who thinks that democrats are above this kind of behavior are being naive to the real world of politics.

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