Grassley: FBI could leak Clinton email investigation

[think]

Grassley: FBI could leak Clinton email investigation

By Jason Noble, 11:38 a.m. CDT April 22, 2016

U.S. Sen. Chuck Grassley suggested on Friday that the FBI might leak reports of its investigation into presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server as secretary of state.

Grassley, Iowa’s senior senator and chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said an anonymous and unauthorized release of FBI investigative materials could result if officials at the agency believed prosecution of Clinton was stymied for political reasons.

“Is there going to be political interference? If there’s enough evidence to prosecute, will there be political interference?” Grassley wondered aloud during a breakfast meeting with the Des Moines A.M. Rotary club on Friday. “And if there’s political interference, then I assume that somebody in the FBI is going to leak these reports and it’s either going to have an effect politically or it’s going to lead to prosecution if there’s enough evidence.”

~Snip~

When asked by Radio Iowa reporter O. Kay Henderson after the breakfast if he was suggesting the FBI should leak investigative findings, Grassley expounded on his comment.

“I wouldn’t be encouraging it because if it’s a violation of law, I can’t be encouraging a violation of law,” he said. “This is kind of my own opinion, this is something I’ve heard.”...

Read more:
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2016/04/22/grassley-fbi-could-leak-clinton-email-investigation/83385362/

Don't you just hate it when politicians play fast and loose with the law...

[Trust Buster]

1. Grassley sticking up for his ex-aide who's leaking garbage for political gain.

[apcalc]

2. They COULD?

Well, Elvis COULD still be alive too.

[Loudestlib]

3. I bet it comes out in October.

[ViseGrip]

51. Along with the Goldman Sachs transcripts, courtesy of Ted Cruz's wife.

I don't think it's trump. It Ted is not the nominee, I'll bet he'll sell them to Trump if he has not already!

[beedle]

4. Well, as long as

nothing is leaked that is explicitly marked with a big red "classified" or "top secret" stamp, then no harm, no foul .. right Hillary supporters?

[senz]

10. Yup, they set the terms.

[Fairgo]

28. Now where did they put that Petard?

Seems there is some hoisting to be done.

[FlatBaroque]

5. Obama's owners are Hillary's owners. Therefore the President is obligated

to thwart justice. The FBI should leak all of it immediately.

[Actor]

26. Obama's owners?

[musicblind]

63. Obama has owners? Obama has been an amazing president. n/t

[HooptieWagon]

6. He is not violating the law.

He is discussing published reports of FBI agents stating off the record they'll leak evidence if Clinton isn't indicted. I have read similar articles.
The FBI agents probably would be violating the law, but I suspect they'll be given immunity by Congress to testify.

[Bluerome]

7. Just the republican apparatus making its usual noise

Highly unlikely, since it would result in the arrest of the leakers. And ineffective since anyone who has studied the facts knows that Hillary didn't actually break any laws.

[leveymg]

9. She "didn't actually break any laws?" Read her security oath in conjunction with the statutes

referenced within the oath, particularly 18 USC Sec. 793, subsections (e) and (f).

Text of Hillary's signed Classified Information Agreement posted here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1780656

Text of Section 793 here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251552653

Read them, they will clear up a lot of your misunderstanding. Then come back with a response.

[Bluerome]

11. What she did was standard practice by many SoSs. We have laws in our state against slurping

your soup in public (true), but I'm not worried about it. As is obvious, this has always been a creation of the republican attack machine. Old style - lots of inflammatory rhetoric to sway emotions, but not much in terms of value

[think]

16. Other SoS have used their own email server? like who?

[Bluerome]

17. Here you go

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/04/politics/hillary-clinton-email-classified-colin-powell-condoleezza-rice/

[think]

18. No. They used personal email but they didn't use their own server. Personal email was bad enough

Using one's own server opened a whole new can of worms. For starters the server wasn't even encrypted the first three months:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/katevinton/2015/03/11/researchers-say-clintons-email-server-had-no-encryption-for-her-first-three-months-in-office/#5af551c82649

[Bluerome]

19. Nothing sent through her server

was classified at the time. I wouldn't worry about this RNC created attack that's been in the works a long time

[think]

20. I don't have time to go through it all right now but there is PLENTY to be concerned about

The encryption issue was a no brainer and there emails sent during that time using the clintonemail server domain. Huge no no

Lack of SSL certificate could have exposed emails to eavesdropping attack

~snip~


Internet records show the clintonemail.com domain was first registered on Jan. 13, 2009. Clinton became Secretary of State eight days later, but it wasn't until March 29 that the first SSL certificate was issued for the domain, according to Venafi, a security company that analyzes encryption keys and digital certificates.

The SSL certificate is necessary to encrypt connections from smartphones and computers accessing the Microsoft IIS server and its Outlook system. Without that security, data would be flowing across the Internet in plain text.



Around that time, British and American spy agencies were reportedly eavesdropping on world leaders. At the G20 summit in April 2009, they set up fake Internet cafes in the hope that government ministers and their staff would connect to Internet hotspots, allowing the agencies to tap unencrypted or poorly encrypted communications.

During her first months in office until the certificate was obtained, Clinton traveled to Japan, Indonesia, South Korea, China, Egypt, Israel, Palestine, Belgium, Switzerland, Turkey and Mexico.

It's possible that Clinton didn't use the email system until the certificate had been obtained, but Kevin Bocek [cq], vice president of security strategy and threat intelligence at Venafi, says he thinks that is unlikely. Due to the timing of the registration of the domain name and her swearing in, Bocek said it appears that the system was prepared for her to use as soon as she took office...

Read more:
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2895892/hillary-clintons-email-system-was-insecure-for-two-months.html

[Bluerome]

22. Show evidence that a classified

Document was sent through that server. Until then, there's no story here

[think]

23. You either don't understand what I posted or you refuse to acknowledge it so we're done. Cheers.

[Bluerome]

32. Innocent until proven. Cheers

[leveymg]

25. You haven't been paying attention to the news. The NSA, CIA and State Dept have found classified

information on her server. The grand total is her uncertified server holds and transmitted 2,100 emails and attachments containing classified materials, 104 sent by HRC herself, 22 found to contain information the NSA and CIA had classified as Top Secret/SAP. A brief Google search will confirm that. Start reading.

She is cooked.

[Bluerome]

29. Not factual.

The "classified" info that is being referred to are things that have NOW been classified. You can't prosecute someone for sending classified info when that info wasn't classified at the time. That's what the law is. For something to be classified and restricted, it has to be marked classified at the time.

[leveymg]

34. No. Please read her security agreement. The first paragraph sinks that defense. Read.

Weep.

"As used in this Agreement, classified Information is marked or unmarked classified Information"

1) Hillary signed this document on 01/22/09:

UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2015-05069 Doc No. C05833708 Date: 11/05/2015
! I RELEASE IN PART I
B7(C),B6
---------------------------------1REVIEW AUTHORITY:
CLASSIFIED INFORMATION NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT Barbara Nielsen, Senior
Reviewer
AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN Hillary Rodham Clinton AND THE UNITED STATES
1. lntending to be legally bound. I hereby accept the obligations contained In this Agreement In consideration of my being granted access to classified information. As used in this Agreement, classified Information is marked or unmarked classified Information, including oral communications, that is classified under the standards or Executive Order 12958, or under any other Executive order or statute that prohibits unauthorized disclosure of lnformation in the Interest of national security; and unclassified Information that meets the standards for classification and is in the process of a classification determination as provided In Section 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 and 1A(e) of Executive Order 12958 or under any other Executive order or statute that requires protection for such information in the of national security. I understand and accept that by being granted access to classified lnformation special confidence and trust have been placed in me by the United States Government .
2. I hereby acknowledge that I have received a security lndoctrination concerning the nature and protection of classified information, including the procedures to be followed in ascertaining whether other persons to whom I contemplate disclosing this Information have been approved for access to it, and that I understand these procedures.
3. I have been advised that the unauthorized disclosure, unauthorized retention, or negligent handling of classified Information by me could cause damage or irreparable injury to the United States or could be used to advantage by a foreign nation. I hereby agree that I will not divulge classified information to anyone unless: (a) I have officially verified that the recipient has been properly authorized by the United States Government to receive it, or (b) I have been given prior written notice of authorization from the United States Government Department or Agency (hereinafter Department or Agency) 1'9SJ) responsible for the classification of information or last granting me a security clearance that such disclosure is permitted. I understand that lf I am uncertain about the classification status of Information, I am required to confirm from an authorized official that the Information is unclassified before I may disclose It, except to a person as provided in (a) or (b), above. I further understand that I am obligated to comply with laws and regulations that prohibit the unauthorized disclosure of classified lnformation.
4. I have been advised that any breach of this may result In the termination of any security clearances I hold; removal from any position of special confidence and trust requiring such clearances; or termination of my employment or other relationships with the Departments or Agencies that granted my security clearance or clearances. In addition, I have been advised that any unauthorized disclosure of classified lnformation by me may constitute a violation, or violations. of Untied States criminal laws, including the provisions of Sections 641. 793, 794, 798, *952 and 1924, Title 18, United States Code, and the provisions of Section 783(b), Title 50,
United Slates code. and the provisions of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982. I recognize that nothing In the Agreement constitutes a waiver by the United States of the right to prosecute me for any statutory violation..
5. I hereby assign to the United States Government all royalties, remunerations. and emoluments that have resulted, wiII result or may result from any disclosure, publication or revelation of classified Information not consistent with the terms of this Agreement
6. I understand that the United States Government may seek any remedy available to it to enforce this Agreement Including, but not but not limited to application for a court order prohibiting disclosure of Information In breach of this Agreement.
1. I understand that all classlfled information to which I have access or may obtain access by signing this Agreement will remain the property of, or under the control of the United States Government unless and until otherwise determined by an authorized official or final ruling of a court of law. I agree that I shall return all classffled materials which have or may come into my possession or for which I am responsible because of such access: (a) upon demand by an authorized representative of the United States Government; (b) upon the conclusion of employment or other relationship with the Department or Agency that last granted me a security clearance or- that provided me access ID classifled Information; or (c) upon the conclusion of my employment or other relationship that requires access to classified information. If I do not return such materials upon request, I understand that this may be a violation of Sections 793 and/or 1924, § 18, United States Code, a United States criminal law.
8. Unless and until I am released In writing by an authorized representative or the United States Government.. I understand that all conditions and obligations imposed upon me by this Agreement apply during the time I am granted access to classified lnformation, and at all times thereafter.
9. Each provision of this Agreement is severable. If a court should find provision of this Agreement to be unenforceable, all other provisions of this Agreement shall remain In full force and effect.

Sec 793 (e) and (f) linked here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251552653

[Bluerome]

38. I think this NYT article

Explains it pretty well.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/04/11/us/politics/obama-hillary-clinton-email-fox-news.html?referer=

What you guys aren't acknowledging is that this whole thing was a republican led plan to undermine Hillary and time it for the elections. Normally everyone here would be agreeing with Obama on this but because of the high emotions right now with the Bernie/Hillary contest, some are starting to go along with this GOP plan. Why hasn't the fbi investigated Colin Powell, condy rice? Think about it.

The GOP has been doing this sort of thing for decades. Haven't we learned yet?

[Qutzupalotl]

42. Rice and Powell didn't set up an unsecure server in their bathrooms.

[Bluerome]

49. What they did broke the rules

So why a different standard for Hillary? I know why - she's not who you wanted for pres. We've all made our points now, so moving on

[Qutzupalotl]

50. Because it exposed sensitive communications to hackers.

Same standard, worse activity.

[libdem4life]

58. Just the Right Wing Conspiracy Group....LOL.

Those poor Clintons...abused and misused.

Of course it was brought out by Republicans. The Democrats had their heads in dark places other than on their shoulders. What? Who? When? Naw. Business as usual.

Had it not been for Bernie, we'd have had the rude shock in the GE. She is screwing the Democratic Party because of the remainder of the River of Denial Group that surrounds her "persona".

After all, Bill got re-elected while they called Monica a liar and was playing the poor stooge for the female Medusa. So, not too much difference here...except for the little legal situation.

(And the "others did it too" has been debunked numerous times...for those outside the Bubble.)

And those who have their heads on their shoulders know that she is responsible for what she has done. She's not stupid in the intellectual realm of it, but the aura of privilege has made her tone deaf to any but her own bubble. The Clinton Shuffle is declining.

[Human101948]

52. Yes, depends on what the meaning of "is" is...

where have we heard that before?

[Bluerome]

53. When you fully accept that she's our nominee

You won't feel so strongly about this

[Autumn]

56. You are confused or... ? Personal email accounts are quite a bit different than personal servers.

Which SOS's have used their own private servers to avoid FOIA requests? Hint. Just one.

[Bluerome]

57. In better times when

when dems weren't so divided as they are right now, this wouldn't be an issue we'd be debating

[Autumn]

59. No matter what it would be an issue, She set up her private server and never cleared it with

her boss. She mixed personal, Clinton foundation business and SOS information some sensitive, on her private server.

[Bluerome]

60. I know, it's just not

A big issue for me. Bigger fish to fry. But you know, if for whatever reason she is prosecuted and drops out I will vote Bernie in a heartbeat. So no worries

[Punkingal]

24. We really don't know, sweetie, cause we aren't doing the investigating.

None of us know, and we won't until the DOJ speaks. I just want it to be over, one way or another.

[Bluerome]

31. That's right. Innocent until proven. The American way.

[leveymg]

35. She's far from innocent. She violated her signed Classified Information Agreement.

So much so that she will have to give up her delegates when the FBI report is published.

[Bluerome]

40. The republicans would be very

Happy that their plan to divide and conquer is working

[leveymg]

46. What would make the GOP happiest is if we ran her anyway. nt

[shalafi]

43. When the FBI report gets released, it will make Clinton the most untrustworthy

candidate in history.

I'm not willing to gamble. I want a sure thing and his name is Bernard Sanders.

[marble falls]

47. I want Bernard, too. What makes you so sure about which way the /FBI report is going to fall?

[pdsimdars]

33. The only thing your reply means is that YOU have not studied the facts

You are simply boldly trying to assert talking points you have heard because you obviously don't know any facts about it.

[Bluerome]

41. I have a policy right now of

not arguing with Bernie supporters whose emotions are very high right now.

[grasswire]

48. How's the new job going? Did they give you a new laptop, too?

And maybe a T shirt?

[Stallion]

8. Republicans Threatening to Release Secret Documents Concerning Investigation of Breach of Secrecy

[Bluerome]

12. Lol

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. Grassley has never been the sharpest knife in the drawer.

He embodies the fact we don't live in a meritocracy.

[JoePhilly]

14. + 1

[Wellstone ruled]

15. Remember this,

Cheney and Rove outed Val Plame. Same damn Committee members.

[BernieforPres2016]

21. I would applaud if somebody from the FBI leaks the details of the Clinton investigation

But then again, I think Edward Snowden is an American hero.

[northernsouthern]

27. I read this wrong.

I first thought it was saying not to. I figured it would mean that it was all a scam and they were just dragging it out to hurt her, but it seems to be he is saying they should? That may mean the opposite. The fact Hillary's lawyer is having his guy take the 5th for congress is also a bit odd. You would think he would want him to speak?

[amborin]

30. if anything is suppressed, or thwarted, you can be sure there will be leaks

[winter is coming]

36. ^^ This, and that's the only thing that gives me a shred of hope that

President Obama won't try to sweep it under the rug. I think he's enough of a realist to know that it would leak, and that it would be worse for his personal legacy if that happened.

[amborin]

44. agreed; he knows it would be leaked and it would destroy his legacy

[tex-wyo-dem]

55. That's the intriguing part, isn't it...

If the investigation gets obstructed, leaks from the FBI? If the FBI recommends indictment, but Obama and DoJ refuse to indict, another Saturday Night Massacre? If Obama allows justice to move forward with indictment, Hillary's campaign goes poof. Actually, if any of these things happen I think her campaign gets damaged beyond repair.

[840high]

54. I've been reading that on

other sites for months. Of course there will be leaks.

[pat_k]

37. Oh no! He would Never encourage unlawful conduct.

What a weasel.

[Romulox]

39. I. Can't. Wait. for the inevitable leak! nt

[kstewart33]

45. For Republicans, whatever works.

Not encouraging it of course, but suggesting it to the most widely read paper in Iowa.

[Oilwellian]

61. Paul Thompson will be leaking his email timeline soon

[Samantha]

62. I have been wondering about that

When do you think that might happen?

Sam