2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHoward Dean: Sanders ‘getting pretty close to the end’
Former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean (D) on Friday said Bernie Sanderss Democratic presidential campaign is on its last legs.
I have been exactly where Bernie is, or pretty close to where Bernie is, he said on MSNBC, referencing his unsuccessful 2004 White House run.
I know how hard this is, Dean added on "Morning Joe." "This is when you see youre not going to win. If he has the week it looks like hes going to have, were getting pretty close to the end.
Dean said he thinks Sanders will struggle with suspending his bid.
Im sure hes very angry. ... Hes even more competitive than I am."
He couldnt stand to lose a pickup basketball game in Burlington, Dean added, referring to the Vermont city where Sanders once served as mayor. "He doesnt apologize. He doesnt back down. Its not in his nature. This is going to be a hard transition for him.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/277295-dean-sanders-getting-pretty-close-to-the-end
liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)And now you're a sellout lobbyist for the insurance companies!
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)How sad for a guy that had a chance to breathe some life into the future of this Party.
And as long as we are in DJ mode, to the OP: See you in Philadelphia. Until then:
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)I can see how it would be quite difficult, but I suspect Jane will help the landing. From what I've read she has been ahead of the curve from the beginning, and has a good sense of how to help him cope.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)elleng
(130,974 posts)Outta here for a while, Armstead.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)kstewart33
(6,551 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)oh, and piss off
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)who has sold out the American middle-class to satisfy his greed.....
piss off..
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)kstewart33
(6,551 posts)A too common theme.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)in 1997 on a plan to privatize Social Security. The privatization of SS would have succeeded but not for the Monica Lewinsky scandal that broke in early 1998. She should receive an honorarium or something for that intervention!
What a twisted lobbyist system and group of buy-partisan ex public officials, one hand washes the other foot. Whatever.
Bleacher Creature
(11,257 posts)I know it's not going to go over well on some parts of DU, but it's hard to argue with anything he says.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)He's only staying in because he hates Hillary (and she hates him right back). It's very evident that these two candidates loathe each other at this point.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)some ego issues.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....Jane? Is that why they don't want the 2015 tax return released?
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)If Jane Sanders is getting paid, that could constitute shifting campaign funds to personal use, which is sketchy. I think you are onto something here.
George II
(67,782 posts)oasis
(49,389 posts)It never entered his mind that she'd be a non-paid volunteer.
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)That's a line direct from the Clinton War Room. So, we know where Howard gets his marching orders. Isn't he a corporate lobbyist now?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)the double ones if you're really lucky..
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)his analysis to be very heartfelt and personal. He literally has been there, done that.
jfern
(5,204 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
All right, all right
You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We're doing what we can
But when you want money
For people with minds that hate
All I can tell is brother you have to wait
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
All right, all right
Ah
Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah...
You say you'll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well, you know
You better free you mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
All right, all right
All right, all right, all right
All right, all right, all right
This talk of Bernie's isn't new, it isn't radical, it isn't unique. It's cyclical and Bernie was forcing the cycle.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)as an employee of the Clinton campaign.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Romulox
(25,960 posts)shalafi
(53 posts)Did he change his endorsement from Clinton to Bernie?
Otherwise, Dean can STFU and go back to being a lobbyist.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)That Guy 888
(1,214 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Don't you have some Pharma profits to assure? The public could be gouged a little deeper, I'm sure.
Why do we appoint lobbyists as superdelegates? Anyone?
One of two things is true:
1) the party is broken
2) it is not longer home to non-broken people.
appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)YEARRRRRRRGGGHHHH!!!
hellofromreddit
(1,182 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)The yuuuge crowds, the money, the media, the attention, the spotlight.. I am sure its gone to his head.
Eventually he will have to if he intends on being a productive member of the Democratic party.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)He was briefly the ridiculed underdog, sure, but Dean hasn't committed to and led a campaign anywhere near as successful.
But he certainly can read a script.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)We will not back down.
This leftward movement in the Democratic Party will continue.
Hint: This is bigger than just about Bernie Sanders.
aikoaiko
(34,172 posts)His failed campaign crashed and burned early.
There is no evidence that Bernie is angry, having difficulty coping, or should even entertain the idea of quitting (like the failure Dean).
SHRED
(28,136 posts)Anybody with any sense would see he's extremely biased.
Howard Dean, Now Employed by Health Care Lobby Firm, Opposes Bernie Sanders on Single-Payer
https://theintercept.com/2016/01/14/howard-dean-lobbyist/
BlueStateLib
(937 posts)Howard Dean is annoyed. He wants his own arguments to be evaluated on their merits, regardless of where he works these days. I do work part-time for a law firm. And a law firm has clients, he told TIME on Monday, after publishing a Wall Street Journal op-ed criticizing a key part of ObamaCare. I dare say some of the clients think is great, but I dont write stuff because the clients like it. I write stuff because I believe it.
http://swampland.time.com/2013/07/30/howard-dean-defends-his-work-for-lobbying-firm-after-backlash/
SHRED
(28,136 posts)Even worse I guess.
appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)Go figure. Huh?
Carolina
(6,960 posts)Hate to say it but it seems we were wrong about you in 2004, and the media was right to peg you as off with your Dean scream... how sad that you've devolved
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)I have my doubts.
floriduck
(2,262 posts)I should change my user name to ProgressiveSinceBirth. There is a VERY clear distinction from that of the OP.
jimmy_crack_corn
(79 posts)Lots Of Hillary supporters keep calling for Bernie to get out !! Howard endorsed Hillary back around December 10, 2015.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)Every time he opens his mouth now, I want to vomit, cry or both.