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The fix is in. Today Krugman stuck to economics (Original Post) Skink Apr 2016 OP
Not sure where people's memories are. Krugman came to prominence shilling for NAFTA. nt Romulox Apr 2016 #1
He is a free trader. Skink Apr 2016 #2
Depends on which day you ask him. He pretended to be indifferent to TPP, to gain credibility Romulox Apr 2016 #3
Most importantly, he said people blame NAFTA for things caused by other factors. Hoyt Apr 2016 #8
Try to keep up. He now says he was wrong about NAFTA. Oops! nt Romulox Apr 2016 #10
And he said people blame it for things caused by other factors. H Hoyt Apr 2016 #11
Not NAFTA...But a lot of other "free trade" policies Armstead Apr 2016 #13
America First. I get it. Sounds like Archie Bunker. Hoyt Apr 2016 #19
Nations first -- Greedy Transnational Corporations down the list Armstead Apr 2016 #21
Workers are workers wherever they are. Some aren't happy with $50,000 Hoyt Apr 2016 #22
Okay we'll just have to disagree Armstead Apr 2016 #23
America First, and screw foreigners workers. I get where you are coming from. Hoyt Apr 2016 #24
You do not get where I am coming from in the least Armstead Apr 2016 #27
Democracynow.org has a 1 hour daily show. It wins a lot of imporantant journalistic Unicorn Apr 2016 #25
Just another Neocon Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #4
Another old guy who doesn't know how the internet works. The internet remembers, Paul... nt Romulox Apr 2016 #5
Isn't that the truth. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #28
The one on Robber Baron's? pat_k Apr 2016 #6
I think that while he is a whole hearted free market enthusiast jwirr Apr 2016 #15
Food for thought pat_k Apr 2016 #20
Yes, that is where I finally came up with this thought. jwirr Apr 2016 #30
That's because the primary is essentially over and Bernie lost alcibiades_mystery Apr 2016 #7
Why do you say 'fix' instead of math, Skink? blm Apr 2016 #9
Do you know how long it takes to ignore? Skink Apr 2016 #12
I must be missing something. Why would people ignore the word "fix' blm Apr 2016 #14
You earned this. Skink Apr 2016 #16
OK - but it was such a simple question. blm Apr 2016 #17
It's not the fix is in. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #18
Krugman jumped the shark awhile back. So disappointing. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #26
I haven't read him since. Totally turned off the man. Trust betrayed. snowy owl Apr 2016 #29

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
3. Depends on which day you ask him. He pretended to be indifferent to TPP, to gain credibility
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:10 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:39 AM - Edit history (1)

for this election cycle. Not many were fooled.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
8. Most importantly, he said people blame NAFTA for things caused by other factors.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:25 PM
Apr 2016

And he's exactly right.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
11. And he said people blame it for things caused by other factors. H
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:29 PM
Apr 2016

Heck, lots of production didn't go to China because of NAFTA for one thing.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
21. Nations first -- Greedy Transnational Corporations down the list
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:12 AM
Apr 2016

And the interests of average Amercan workers over the Jack Welch wannabes any fucking day.

And as fir other countries - Fair trade that helps them build healthy well rounded domestic economies instead of making them into Corpirate Colonies...hell ya

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
22. Workers are workers wherever they are. Some aren't happy with $50,000
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:18 AM
Apr 2016

a year. Some pray for a couple of dollars a day.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
23. Okay we'll just have to disagree
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:24 AM
Apr 2016

Personally I don't thimk its a goid idea to wreck the US economy snd simultaneoudly exploit workers elsewhere and create non- sustsinable colonial export sweatshop economies to allow a race to the bottom, just so Corporations can suck it all up.

But if you feel otherwise, be my guest

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
27. You do not get where I am coming from in the least
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:37 AM
Apr 2016

And your cheap and easy distortion does not merit any further motions of my fingers on my keyboard
 

Unicorn

(424 posts)
25. Democracynow.org has a 1 hour daily show. It wins a lot of imporantant journalistic
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:36 AM
Apr 2016

awards every year.

It would be nice if more dems visited it, even once a week.

They take nafta apart and the TPP. You'd not be drinking the koolaide of the people for it if you actually saw it taken a part.

It left many countries in ruin.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
6. The one on Robber Baron's?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:18 PM
Apr 2016

In Seattle Times his most recent was the 19th. He sort of sounds like his "old self."



Paul Krugman
Robber baron recessions
Originally published April 19, 2016 at 5:01 pm

You see, profits are at near-record highs, thanks to a substantial decline in the percentage of GDP going to workers. ...

mainly reflect growing monopoly power. In that case many corporations would be in the position ...

... when investment is weak despite low interest rates, the Federal Reserve will too often find its efforts to fight recessions coming up short. So lack of competition can contribute to “secular stagnation” — that awkwardly named but serious condition in which an economy tends to be depressed much or even most of the time, feeling prosperous only when spending is boosted by unsustainable asset or credit bubbles. If that sounds to you like the story of the U.S. economy since the 1990s, join the club.

...we aren’t just living in a second Gilded Age, we’re also living in a second robber baron era
.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
15. I think that while he is a whole hearted free market enthusiast
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:32 PM
Apr 2016

I think he favors FDR's mixed economy. So the robber barons are a no no but unregulated trade with other nations is just fine.

However, I think he fails to see the difference between free trade for FDR which was real trade deals and these for profit deals for the rich we are seeing today that have nothing to do with workers at all.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
20. Food for thought
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:10 PM
Apr 2016

I've been a little mystified trying to reconcile what appear to be conflicting analyses from him.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
7. That's because the primary is essentially over and Bernie lost
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:20 PM
Apr 2016

It'll keep kicking around for a while, but nobody's paying attention anymore. It's over.

blm

(113,063 posts)
9. Why do you say 'fix' instead of math, Skink?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:25 PM
Apr 2016

Seems like 'fix' is the word Luntz focus-grouped most recently. Trump sure is using it a lot since NY.

blm

(113,063 posts)
14. I must be missing something. Why would people ignore the word "fix'
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:32 PM
Apr 2016

more than they would ignore the word 'math'?

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