2016 Postmortem

insta8er

(960 posts) Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:18 PM Apr 2016

Great article on reddit (with links) on the email issues concerning HRC

This is an article with links from Reddit user:NebraskaGunOwner
The article can be found here
You have the right to disagree with his summary, but please come up with something sensible. The person in question has taken the time to write this with links to all of the material he used in this article. You also don't have to like the article, you can just ignore it. Your Right wing Conspiracy has also been duly noted.
The following links have been used in writing of this article, Politico and CNN.

I wanted to write out a quick summary about the 30,000k emails that Hillary Clinton and her lawyers deleted. This is sparked by the recent Vice News lawsuit against the DOJ for secretly denying a FOIA request in relation to these emails. More on this in a bit.

October 2014: Hillary deletes 30k personal emails After receiving a congressional subpoena for emails relating to the attacks in Benghazi, Hillary Clinton and her lawyers "wiped the server clean"

Clinton was under a subpoena order from the panel for all documents related to the 2012 attacks on the American compound there. But David Kendall, an attorney for Clinton, said the 900 pages of emails previously provided to the panel cover its request. Kendall also informed the committee that Clinton’s emails from her time at the State Department have been permanently erased.
In a letter provided to the committee, Kendall said Clinton would not be turning over the server to a third-party for review and that the emails no longer exist on the private server located in her New York home.
“There is no basis to support the proposed third-party review of the server that hosted the hdr22@clintonemail.com account,” Kendall wrote. “To avoid prolonging a discussion that would be academic, I have confirmed with the secretary’s IT support that no emails…..for the time period January 21, 2009 through February 1, 2013 reside on the server or on any back-up systems associated with the server”

It was originally reported that her and her lawyers used a keyword search to identify work related emails and deleted anything else. This would include all communication to non .gov addresses. Later however, her lawyers claimed that they did a thorough review of each individual email.

August 2015: Hillary says she turned over all work emails under penalty of perjury:

Since news broke in March of her use of a personal email address on a server kept in her Chappaqua, New York, home, Clinton has insisted that she's turned over all of her work-related emails to the State Department and deleted all others -- but wouldn't turn over her server to the government.
This follows U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan ordering the State Department to have Clinton as well as two former top department aides to state under penalty of perjury they have produced all government records in their possession.

What did Hillary say was in these personal emails?

"I chose not to keep my private personal emails — emails about planning Chelsea’s wedding or my mother’s funeral arrangements, condolence notes to friends as well as yoga routines, family vacations, the other things you typically find in inboxes"

Hillary attempted to erase the backups of the emails twice The admins of Platte River Networks, who facilitated the backups feared a coverup was happening:

Any chance you found an old email with their directive to cut the backup back in Oct-Feb,” one Platte River employee asked another, according to excerpts of the emails included in a Monday letter from Senate Homeland Security Committee Chairman Ron Johnson (R-Wis.).
“I know they had you cut it once in Oct-Nov, then again to 30day in Feb-ish.” Such a record, the employee said, would be “golden," and would clear the company of outside criticism and point back to Clinton Executive Service Corp., which “appears to be a Clinton family company,” according to the Johnson letter. “Starting to think this whole thing really is covering up some shaddy shit"...

FBI Recovers all of Hillary's deleted emails Through a cloud backup system unknown to Clinton and her lawyers. The FBI were able to retrieve all of her emails.

“With the consent of our client and their end user, and consistent with our policies regarding data privacy, yesterday, Tuesday, October 6, Datto delivered a hardware device to the FBI containing all backed up data related to Platte Rivers Networks' client known to be in its possession,” Datto said in a statement.

FOIA Request relating to these personal emails were denied in secret
This week a judge supported the lawsuit from Vice News and ordered: the DOJ to "to file publicly a redacted copy of the secret filing or "show cause why" that isn't possible. He gave the government until April 26 to do that."
It is clear that these emails are playing a large role the FBI investigation, which caused them to deny the FOIA request in-camera (privately) and ex-parte without notifying the other party. This is rare, and implies that the justification for denying the request would be detrimental.
Hillary Clinton is walking a very fine line, and has stated under penalty of perjury, that she has provided all work related emails in her possession before deleting her personal emails. If she also deleted emails relating to the attacks in Libya, that would have happened after those documents were subpoenaed. This also doesn't speak to her potentially deleting emails containing classified material.
All of the back and forth around sending or receiving classified information seems to take a back seat to the personal emails that Clinton and her lawyers went out of their way to delete. The proactive decision would also satisfy the intent requirement for prosecution.