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Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:28 AM

Fact checkers confirm Hillary Clinton is more honest than any of her 2016 opponents

PolitiFact has rated 24% of Hillary Clinton’s contentious claims as receiving a perfect “True” score (source link), which may not sound impressive until you consider that just 15% of Bernie Sanders’ contentious claims have rated out as “True” (source link). There are two other passable categories, “Mostly True” and “Half True.” If you add up the numbers from the top three boxes, Clinton comes out at 72% and Sanders comes out at 70%, which are both robust scores. In the bottom two boxes, just 14% of Clinton’s challenged statements have rated out as “False” or “Pants on Fire” while Sanders has fallen into those bottom two boxes 15% of the time.
http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/fact-checkers-confirm-hillary-clinton-is-more-honest-than-any-of-her-2016-opponents/24196/

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Reply Fact checkers confirm Hillary Clinton is more honest than any of her 2016 opponents (Original post)
BlueStateLib Apr 2016 OP
dchill Apr 2016 #1
CajunBlazer Apr 2016 #4
Marrah_G Apr 2016 #15
dchill Apr 2016 #16
Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #17
malokvale77 Apr 2016 #2
CajunBlazer Apr 2016 #6
Sinistrous Apr 2016 #8
Barack_America Apr 2016 #3
whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #5
seabeyond Apr 2016 #7
jfern Apr 2016 #9
Ino Apr 2016 #10
vintx Apr 2016 #12
frustrated_lefty Apr 2016 #11
vintx Apr 2016 #13
DJ13 Apr 2016 #14
dchill Apr 2016 #18

Response to BlueStateLib (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:32 AM

1. So David Brock has bought PolitiFact, or your figures are...

Bullshit.

Hillary Clinton is a serial liar and inveterate flip flopper.

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Response to dchill (Reply #1)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:40 AM

4. More evidence that Sanders supporters live in a world of their own making

Every article that isn't 100% pure Bernie is lie. Everything is a conspiracy. Everyone is against us.

You folks sound more like Tea Party crowd every day. I guess there is a lot of truth in the Horseshoe Theory after all.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #4)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:52 AM

16. "...sound more like Tea Party crowd every day."

Thanks! But really, we can't hold a candle to you HRC folk. We don't even have handlers or talking points.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #4)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:53 AM

17. ..OK...?

 

So where are the real examples of Bernie lying more often than Hillary?

Ever seen her campign in PA as opposed to Ct lately?

First she puts up an ad with Sandy Hook victims, tries to glue Bernie Sanders as being against them and for Big Gun while having a fundraiser with a former NRA lobbyists, and are now having a pro-gun campaign in Pennsylvana.
She claims to be anti-gun and pro-children-Recieves ten million dollars from the Saudis to her little foundation. They get an arms deal, in which they will guaranteed to be used against civilians.


Gotta love how she claims to be pro- immigrant and pro-African American, considering her Bill O'Reilly stlye dog whistle statements in the 90s, defending policies that deliberately targeted AA youth, and militarized the police with exceedingly dumb and psychopathic cops in the ranks.

I love how Hillary supporters thinks she is a trailblazer for LGBT rights, was against equal rights for gys until 2013; supported the Honduras coup which targeted LGBT activists, and supports regimes that has outlawed an entire group of people. (In comparison, the Iranian govt. sponsors sex change operations - but the Clintons pall around with a royal dictatorship as if they were beacons of human rights.)

She says she is pro-immigration, but wants deport refugee children from the drug wars, the death squads and RW regimes back to their respective countries.
While USA has been a trailblazer in the havoc created in the Middle East, I have yet to hear her say that USA will take responsibility and take as many refugees as possible.

I'd like to see a list over every lie Hillary has told, and compared them to Bernies (if you can find any)

Care to take that challenge?

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Response to BlueStateLib (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:35 AM

2. Because dailynewsbin says

How stupid do you think we are?

Never mind.

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Response to malokvale77 (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:43 AM

6. Yea, the Daily News can't be honest

Aren't they the ones who published a full transcript of their interview with Sanders? No way Bernie would say stuff that dumb, right?

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #6)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:11 AM

8. No, they are not. Dailynewsbin and the New York Daily News are quite different entities.

Keep up the good work.

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Response to BlueStateLib (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:36 AM

3. This post is useless without speech transcripts.

I'll make a determination on her "honesty" after I get a chance to read those.

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Response to BlueStateLib (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:42 AM

5. "fact checkers" say...

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Response to BlueStateLib (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:54 AM

7. Once again, Clinton rises to most honest. Kicking tush!

 

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Response to BlueStateLib (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:12 AM

9. Politifact is often wrong

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Response to BlueStateLib (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:13 AM

10. Let's check this out...

The dailynewsbin article states Politifact has rated Hillary's "contentious claims... most highly contested claims."

If you go to the Politifact site, you will see that they rated 192 Hillary statements, dating all the way back to the 2008 campaign, vs only 93 Sanders statements.

Hillary's statements are padded out with LOTS of non-contentious statements of fact that no one disagrees with, such as "Tax rates were significantly higher 'in the '40s, the '50s, and the '60s'" and "African-American children are 500 percent more likely to die from asthma than white kids."

Here's my favorite -- they are also padded out with many silly, not highly-contested claims like "Could I just point out that ... I seem to get the first question all the time?"

In other words, Politifact can get the result it wants by its choice and number of statements to analyze. And dailynewsbin mischaracterizes the statements analyzed as being contentious/highly-contested, when they are in many cases NOT.

I rate this dailynewsbin article as FALSE.

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Response to Ino (Reply #10)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:23 AM

12. Well, it's dailynewsbin. A clinton propaganda outlet.

 

So of COURSE they're mendacious as all fucking hell. Just like the candidate they churn out this bullshit for.

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Response to BlueStateLib (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:18 AM

11. I fact checked the factcheckers

and decided they're full of nonsense.

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Response to BlueStateLib (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:23 AM

13. The fact that her fans fall for bullshit like this

 

makes it painfully and tragically clear how they manage to stomach supporting her as a candidate.

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Response to BlueStateLib (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:37 AM

14. Who fact checks the fact checkers?

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Response to BlueStateLib (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:54 AM

18. I rate this thread as fail.

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