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Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:14 AM

 

Hey Bernie, I know why the poor don't vote for you:

You're the only candidate promising to raise their taxes. Sure, you say there will be savings in other places, but if you live below the poverty line, and are already receiving Medicaid, you would cost them money.

Huh, people don't want to vote for the person raising the taxes they can't afford to pay. Who would have thunk it?

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Reply Hey Bernie, I know why the poor don't vote for you: (Original post)
CrowCityDem Apr 2016 OP
Logical Apr 2016 #1
Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #3
m-lekktor Apr 2016 #2
fun n serious Apr 2016 #14
Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #4
LineLineNew Reply !
CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #19
Trust Buster Apr 2016 #5
Post removed Apr 2016 #6
Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #7
Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #8
Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #9
Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #12
fun n serious Apr 2016 #17
lunamagica Apr 2016 #23
Gore1FL Apr 2016 #10
reformist2 Apr 2016 #11
Broward Apr 2016 #13
Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #15
CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #16
Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #18
Sunlei Apr 2016 #20
CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #21
Sancho Apr 2016 #22
ScreamingMeemie Apr 2016 #24

Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:15 AM

1. another classy hill supporter! nt

 

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:16 AM

2. The poor who don't vote don't vote for anybody, they don't follow politics. nt

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Response to m-lekktor (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:07 AM

14. Do you really believe that?

 

In my opinion, they vote less but they vote. In my state they feel ignored and are participating this year

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:17 AM

4. I do not think "Know" means what you think it means.

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Response to Sky Masterson (Reply #4)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:14 AM

19. !

 

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:18 AM

5. Another shameless minimization by Sanders like we witnessed him explain away the "southern vote"

 

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:32 AM

7. Incomes under 20K-48% vote. Incomes over 75K- 77% vote

 

Why poor people still aren't voting

Less than half of those who made under $20,000 voted in 2012. Meanwhile, voter participation for people who live in households with incomes of more than $75,000 was much higher at 77%.

It's clear that the system is leaving many people out -- especially the poor.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/05/news/economy/poor-people-voting-rights/


Voter Turnout By Income, 2008 US Presidential Election
political participation rates by low-income Americans are alarmingly low, and our antiquated voting system contributes to this problem. The system is overly bureaucratic with unnecessarily restrictive registration procedures, which work to dissuade people from voting. Something as simple and common as moving within the same state jeopardizes voter eligibility due to registration requirements. Studies show that people of color, young people, and lower-income people move more often, leaving them more vulnerable to not being properly registered to vote.
http://www.demos.org/data-byte/voter-turnout-income-2008-us-presidential-election

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:45 AM

8. They did not vote in caucus states because the poor can not afford to take the time off from work.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #8)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:52 AM

9. So how then do you explain NY? It's the same thing, can't take time off to go vote. Upstate NY polls

 

don't even open until noon. Noon!.

Here in Oregon we let people vote when they wish to vote. No finding a polling place after noon, lining up and waiting to vote during some tiny widow in which your rights are available.

Why do you think Harry Reid pushed so hard to shift Nevada to Caucuses in 2008? Why didn't the Unions push back against that? Why do you think Washington Democratic Party sued the State of Washington to permit them to hold caucus instead of primary?

It's just that opposing those caucuses is very much opposing the wishes of the Democratic Party. I'd say you should be taking those complaints to the Party in those States and nationally that wants these caucuses. Nevada's is so new that Hillary has been in and won every caucus they have ever held.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #9)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:01 AM

12. It takes relatively little time to vote in an election. Compare turnout between election and caucus

states. This is true, even in states where the number of election sites are kept artificially low.
A caucus requires hours of time to show up, gather, listen to speeches, and vote. Turnout in caucus states rarely exceeds 15%. Those that turned out are not working at 2 or 3 jobs to make ends meet. They are designed to exclude large swaths of the population. This is not the fault of any modern politician. They are designed that way. Politicians who choose to use caucuses know very well that they don't need the poor, just a cadre of dedicated activists to win.
Sanders' caucus wins, and Clintons', and Obama's in 2008 all came by excluding the poor.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #9)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:10 AM

17. I think Caucasus are corrupt. nt

 

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #9)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 05:57 PM

23. Caucases favor the young, the healthy, the wealthy, the able-bodied. It's not the same

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:56 AM

10. Why post a thread for the sole purpose of of being obnoxious?

This isn't an auspicious start for you at DU.


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Response to Gore1FL (Reply #10)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:58 AM

11. It's the new look for the New Democratic Party!

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:05 AM

13. Wow, either you're a troll or the Dem Party tent has gotten way too big.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:07 AM

15. Really?

 

Where has Bernie said he wants to raise the taxes on the working poor?

Jeeze!

A bit confused about his tax plan again?`

I mean, the only other places we here of this kind of drivel is Rush Limbaugh, Alex Jones and the GOP

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Response to Bohemianwriter (Reply #15)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:09 AM

16. He raises the payroll tax.

 

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Response to CrowCityDem (Reply #16)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:14 AM

18. On people who make less than poverty line?

 

Really?

Now where can you show me in his tax plan that he wants to put the tax burden on the poor?

One of the many reasons why neither Hillary or her more zealous supporters are to be trusted. Repeated mendacious propaganda taken straight out of Karl Rove's playbook.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:32 AM

20. people who are poor do not have income and do-NOT pay any 'income' taxes. silly OP.

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Response to Sunlei (Reply #20)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:36 AM

21. There are other kinds of taxes. He wants to raise the payroll tax.

 

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:36 AM

22. And pay for rich people to get a free college education too!!

while taxing the retirement funds of union workers and public employees. Who wouldn't want that??


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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 06:01 PM

24. I am poor. I voted for Bernie. Because I can think beyond a one-liner.

I live in Texas. Medicaid wasn't expanded. I would save money by voting for Bernie. He is the only candidate being pretty transparent.

On Hillary, any woman who is willing to leave any abortion legislation up for grabs is not someone who is "there for me" or any woman for that matter. She is not strong enough on that issue. She is "we can't." So "I can't" afford to vote for her.

I hope that helps.

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