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Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:37 PM

Kasich crushes Clinton in polls; Sanders beats Kasich

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_kasich_vs_clinton-5162.html#polls

In 15 national polls since the beginning of the year, Kasich has consistently beat Clinton.

But in polls between Kasich and Sanders, Sanders beats, or runs neck and neck with, Kasich.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_kasich_vs_sanders-5817.html#polls

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Reply Kasich crushes Clinton in polls; Sanders beats Kasich (Original post)
TheDormouse Apr 2016 OP
drm604 Apr 2016 #1
BillZBubb Apr 2016 #2
RKP5637 Apr 2016 #50
Mike__M Apr 2016 #53
RKP5637 Apr 2016 #54
griffi94 Apr 2016 #3
LyndaG Apr 2016 #4
we can do it Apr 2016 #11
Post removed Apr 2016 #15
merrily Apr 2016 #44
LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #79
merrily Apr 2016 #82
LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #84
MadBadger Apr 2016 #5
TheCowsCameHome Apr 2016 #12
onenote Apr 2016 #78
TheCowsCameHome Apr 2016 #85
woolldog Apr 2016 #6
Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #7
HereSince1628 Apr 2016 #8
SFnomad Apr 2016 #9
brush Apr 2016 #10
Kittycat Apr 2016 #35
SFnomad Apr 2016 #37
Kittycat Apr 2016 #49
SFnomad Apr 2016 #63
Cal33 Apr 2016 #88
AzDar Apr 2016 #13
angrychair Apr 2016 #14
TheDormouse Apr 2016 #16
TheDormouse Apr 2016 #17
litlbilly Apr 2016 #18
Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 #19
TheDormouse Apr 2016 #22
Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 #26
TheDormouse Apr 2016 #20
litlbilly Apr 2016 #24
hack89 Apr 2016 #25
litlbilly Apr 2016 #27
hack89 Apr 2016 #29
litlbilly Apr 2016 #32
hack89 Apr 2016 #36
litlbilly Apr 2016 #41
hack89 Apr 2016 #48
Svafa Apr 2016 #60
hack89 Apr 2016 #62
litlbilly Apr 2016 #38
hack89 Apr 2016 #40
litlbilly Apr 2016 #42
hack89 Apr 2016 #46
Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #69
litlbilly Apr 2016 #34
Godhumor Apr 2016 #21
Svafa Apr 2016 #61
Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #23
Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #28
Algernon Moncrieff Apr 2016 #30
artyteacher Apr 2016 #31
KingFlorez Apr 2016 #33
Mike Nelson Apr 2016 #39
litlbilly Apr 2016 #47
Mike Nelson Apr 2016 #56
litlbilly Apr 2016 #57
oasis Apr 2016 #43
JoePhilly Apr 2016 #45
NCTraveler Apr 2016 #51
RufusTFirefly Apr 2016 #52
Sparkly Apr 2016 #55
brooklynite Apr 2016 #58
Dem2 Apr 2016 #59
snowy owl Apr 2016 #64
TheDormouse Apr 2016 #65
Dem2 Apr 2016 #67
TheDormouse Apr 2016 #71
TheDormouse Apr 2016 #66
Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #68
TheDormouse Apr 2016 #74
amborin Apr 2016 #70
Tarc Apr 2016 #72
Name removed Apr 2016 #73
GreatGazoo Apr 2016 #75
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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:39 PM

1. I know. I think the party is supporting the less viable candidate.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:40 PM

2. If the repubs run someone they can sell as "moderate" against Hillary, they win.

The independent voters will decide the election. A "moderate" republican wins that block easily.

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Response to BillZBubb (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:44 PM

50. TPTB in the democratic party just don't get it. I think HRC is going to have a very rough time

of it in the GE, especially depending on who the R's put up against her. Also, Trump is a showman, he might do a total remake for the GE if the nominee.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #50)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:53 PM

53. Trump's friends have already admitted

that his primary performance is an act.

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Response to Mike__M (Reply #53)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:07 PM

54. That's what I've thought too for quite awhile. He did what he had to do to snag the

momentum and to get that voting sector which he knew he could easily grab. Now, he's shifting to a new act/role/mode. He's no dummy.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:42 PM

3. It's a really good thing then

that Kasich isn't going to be their nominee.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:43 PM

4. He only won his home state

I wonder why the Republican Primary voters aren't supporting Kasich.

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Response to LyndaG (Reply #4)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 04:02 PM

11. Hes a twitchy lying sack of shit?

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Response to we can do it (Reply #11)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:41 PM

44. That can't be the reason. So are Trump and Cruz.



Okay, I admit it: They're less twitchy.

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Response to merrily (Reply #44)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:41 PM

79. I don't think it's possible to be more twitchy than Cruz

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Response to LondonReign2 (Reply #79)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:44 PM

82. I refuse to participate in twitchy wars!!11!!

Trying to pick the worst Republican is a losing fight.

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Response to merrily (Reply #82)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:45 PM

84. Ha ha, you are so right

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:43 PM

5. Kasich isn't going to be the nominee

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Response to MadBadger (Reply #5)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 04:03 PM

12. Neither is Trump.

A time to worry, Hill.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #12)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:39 PM

78. Who is?

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Response to onenote (Reply #78)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:47 PM

85. That's anyone's guess at this point.

The place is a mess over there.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:44 PM

6. And yet, neither of them will run in the GE

 

So those polls are meaningless. Neither will be their party's nominee.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:44 PM

7. There is writing on the wall, superdelegates. Please read it.

 

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:46 PM

8. Maybe I don't get it, but this is how I see it...

Kasich sells himself as a 'reasonable' republican, Clinton sells herself as a centrist. The market toward targets in the middle, BUT

Kasich follows the Kochs, much like Scott Walker, while Clinton follows Wall St Financiers.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:47 PM

9. Maybe Kasich and Sanders can run a mock election and pretend it's for third place n/t

 

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Response to SFnomad (Reply #9)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:59 PM

10. Heehee! I like that. Bet that sly snark will get you slammed by Sanders supporters though.

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Response to SFnomad (Reply #9)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:29 PM

35. Funny since Kasich supported the Clinton's disastrous budget

In the 90's.

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Response to Kittycat (Reply #35)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:30 PM

37. Clinton's disastrous budget? The one that got us a balanced budget and a simultaneously

 

strong economy? Where do you live? Republicanville?

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Response to SFnomad (Reply #37)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:43 PM

49. I guess it depends on how you look at it...

https://theintercept.com/2016/02/13/john-kasich-and-the-clintons-collaborated-on-law-that-helped-double-extreme-poverty-in-america/



Through the eyes of a republican that doesn't care about who it hurts, or the eyes of a democrat, who does.

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Response to Kittycat (Reply #49)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 04:18 PM

63. That wasn't Clinton's "disastrous budget", but was actually

 

the "Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act" aka as "welfare reform". It goes through the Budget Committee because it spends money, but it wasn't "the budget". Now if you had said that "welfare reform" has had a disastrous effect ... I would have agreed with you, up to a point.

I believe there are people that are on welfare for life (or close to it) that really shouldn't be there ... and there are those that should be allowed to remain, that have been kicked off because of this reform. It's a very hard balancing act to keep the undeserving off while keeping those you want on ... and the reform has done a terrible job of that. I would rather have seen no reform than what this reform did.

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Response to SFnomad (Reply #63)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:59 PM

88. Do you happen to have any info on what might have happened to some of those who got

 

kicked off welfare. Were there any known cases of death from illness, starvation ....?

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 04:09 PM

13. K & R

 

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 04:12 PM

14. You heard it here

The republican GE ticket will be Cruz/Kasich

A south/northeast rustbelt ticket with a perceived republican hardliner and a moderate. It's a classic ticket that republicans would be foolish to ignore. They won't...that is their best winning ticket.

If that is their ticket, there is only one person that can beat them and it isn't Clinton.

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Response to angrychair (Reply #14)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 05:38 PM

16. That ticket is conceivable, but can it win? Hmmm

Scary thought.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:59 PM

17. Why do people think Kasich won't get the GOP nomination?

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:06 PM

18. Cant wait till tomorrow's primaries are done. Hopefully Bernie has a good day and

 

then maybe they'll start paying attention to those national polls.

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #19)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:10 PM

22. Dailynewsbin?

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Response to litlbilly (Reply #18)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:08 PM

20. "They"? Which they do you mean?

There seem to be a lot of people who have made up their minds and have no intention of changing them no matter what.

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Response to TheDormouse (Reply #20)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:18 PM

24. M$M mostly. They have been ignoring those polls saying Hillary does better in the GE even though

 

that's not the case.

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Response to litlbilly (Reply #18)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:21 PM

25. What constitutes a good day to you? nt

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Response to hack89 (Reply #25)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:23 PM

27. win PA, Ct, RI and tie in the rest. It's still all about turnout and who counts the votes.

 

If he does close to that it would be a great day and that would set up OR and CA to finish it. IMO of course.

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Response to litlbilly (Reply #27)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:25 PM

29. Too many closed primaries, don't you think?

can Bernie win without Independents? Registered Democrats have overwhelming gone to Clinton so far.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #29)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:28 PM

32. true, but at least they didnt have to chose what to do 6 months ago like NY. Maybe that'll

 

pan out. I am most concerned about the counting of the votes. We need to get a handle on this now.

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Response to litlbilly (Reply #32)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:30 PM

36. No reason to think there will be big problems with vote counting

unless you really think there is a coordinated multi-state conspiracy to tip the vote towards Hillary. Is that what you believe?

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Response to hack89 (Reply #36)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:36 PM

41. There is overwhelming evidence that there is election fraud going on. It doesnt really matter

 

who's doing it but it needs to be nipped in the bud now. So far, in the contested states, all the alleged fraud seems to favor Clinton. That's not just an opinion. I just worry people will stay home if they think their vote doesn't matter or will even be counted.

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Response to litlbilly (Reply #41)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:43 PM

48. It didn't favor Hillary in NY. She lost votes.

the areas where the voting rolls were purged went heavily for Hillary.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #36)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:48 PM

60. I wouldn't say that there has been a conspiracy,

but there have been undeniable problems in multiple states. You can argue the reasons for it, but that doesn't mean that it hasn't happened, nor that it can't happen again.

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Response to Svafa (Reply #60)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:52 PM

62. There are always problems in every election

it is because of how we conduct elections and who is responsible for carrying them out. Between political patronage jobs on elections boards, poor funding, antiquated technology and hoards of poorly trained volunteers that man the polls it is no surprise.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #29)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:32 PM

38. I think registered dems are getting the message, slowly but it is trending towards Bernie, even

 

with the media blackout. We'll see. As you say Indies, Bernie has been dominating them, me included, I registered as a Dem in OR this year, and it will be my first primary. Ive been voting dem since 72 but its my first primary. The indies are the main reason Bernie will clean any repub clock in the GE IMHO.

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Response to litlbilly (Reply #38)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:36 PM

40. "Media blackout"? Really? nt

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Response to hack89 (Reply #40)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:37 PM

42. I see where youre going, baiting whatever. Im done witih you. ignore

 

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Response to litlbilly (Reply #42)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:42 PM

46. Typical immature BernieBro response. So fucking sensitive it is not even funny.

no wonder the "revolution" is such a failure.

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Response to litlbilly (Reply #38)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:49 PM

69. Nope

There is no trend towards Bernie...going to be big losses this week for Bernie.

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Response to litlbilly (Reply #27)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:28 PM

34. I forgot to add Indiana, I think Bernie has a good chance there.

 

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:09 PM

21. Kasich v Sanders represents a match up that will never happen

As there is no chance whatsoever Kasich is getting the nomination (Cruz will win if it goes to 2nd ballot, as he's stuffed the delegate selection process) and a minimal chance Sanders will get the Democratic nomination.

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Response to Godhumor (Reply #21)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:49 PM

61. What about a Cruz/Kasich ticket? That would strategically be a decent move from the Repub party,

though there would still be a lot of very angry Drumpf supporters to recon with.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:15 PM

23. My guess is that out there in the real world few people have heard of Kasich.

But most people have heard of Sanders, so they pick the name they know when answering the poll.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:24 PM

28. Dont know who they are polling but the Clinton figures are ridiculous.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:27 PM

30. Kasich won't be their nominee

It'll be Trump or Paul Ryan

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:27 PM

31. yeah...

Most low into voters don't know about Sender's huge negatives.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:28 PM

33. Kasich or Sanders will not be on the ballot in November

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:34 PM

39. When the Republicans finish with Sanders...

...Kasich would win. But the match-up will never happen... This citing of polls favoring Sanders isn't working, either, in his primary contest against Clinton.

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Response to Mike Nelson (Reply #39)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:42 PM

47. Bernie will take out any repub with ease. There is nothing the repuds can do. Just watch and see.

 

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Response to litlbilly (Reply #47)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:10 PM

56. I think it will not be easy...

...not at all... we would have to work extremely hard to elect Bernie and defeat Kasich, under this scenario. Kasich is way too regressive, although he comes across as folksy and fair. He will, hopefully, never become President.

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Response to Mike Nelson (Reply #56)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:12 PM

57. No, it won't be easy, but nothing worthwhile ever is.

 

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:39 PM

43. The X factor: 3 or more Supreme Court vacancies. (eom)

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:41 PM

45. Kasich will be wathing the General Election from his sofa.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:48 PM

51. How do Sanders and Clinton match up in the Democratic Primary?

 

You do know that it isn't the person who makes it to the end with the least delegates who wins, right?

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:50 PM

52. These polls are obviously right wing and sexist!

What other explanation could there be?



Except math, perhaps.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:09 PM

55. Neither Sanders nor Kasich has had the other party lay a glove on them.

Wonder why.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:18 PM

58. yawn...

...it's nice that the Sanders people have finally found polls they can trust, but have you ever noticed that elections don't end after the Conventions, even though polling will say that one candidate is head?

Even if national, head to head polling, seven months out of candidates who haven't been selected yet was accurate, it's only a barometer of potential intent. Both candidates will still have to fight like hell to win, and I have more comfort with Clinton's ability to raise $1 B for a GE, her ability to withstand Republican negative campaigning, and her mainstream political platform vs that of a self-described Socialist.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:22 PM

59. Unless you actually look at the most recent polls!!

POLLSTER DATES POP. KASICH CLINTON UNDECIDED OTHER SPREAD
Ipsos/Reuters 4/16 - 4/20 1,334 RV 32 40 13 15 Clinton +8
Morning Consult 4/15 - 4/17 2,032 RV 39 42 19 - Clinton +3

Wrong again.

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Response to Dem2 (Reply #59)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 04:22 PM

64. Wonder how it will go after this Kasich-Cruz fiasco. They both look foolish and untrustworthy.

Cruz and Kasich I mean. Not Clinton.

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Response to Dem2 (Reply #59)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:03 PM

65. Hmm. Where to start with that?

Some might call what you're engaged in cherry-picking--looking for polls that fit the outcome you want.

The Ipsos/Reuters and Morning Consult polls (a) are not the most recent polls and (b) are internet polls with as-yet unproven track records.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-future-of-polling-may-depend-on-donald-trumps-fate/
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/28/upshot/online-polls-are-rising-so-are-concerns-about-their-results.html

The USA Today poll is more recent.

It's interesting that the two polls you chose are the ones that consistently have been leaning toward a Clinton over Kasich win. The only other pollster that has reported a Clinton win over Kasich since January was CNN, in a single poll.
edit:
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-kasich-vs-clinton

(this was the wrong link--ignore for this post:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_kasich_vs_clinton-5162.html)

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Response to TheDormouse (Reply #65)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:39 PM

67. The Suffolk poll wasn't up when I posted

Crushing kind of implies no polls favoring Clinton. Even the average of 3% is nothing close to "crushing".

I can laugh about this since Kasich is a non-candidate anyway, just posted to show that you have an agenda here.

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Response to Dem2 (Reply #67)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:54 PM

71. *I* have an agenda? Pot, meet kettle.

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Response to Dem2 (Reply #59)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:03 PM

66. But if it makes you feel any better

here's what Morning Consult pollsters had to say recently after looking at 3 months of their polls of 44,000 registered voters across the US:

(I)f the election were held today, John Kasich would receive 304 electoral votes to Hillary Clinton's 234, largely due to strong performances in the Midwest and Mid Atlantic.


https://morningconsult.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/MRP_whitepaper-5-1.pdf

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:48 PM

68. let me tell you about Kasich...as I live in Ohio

Kasich is a ultra-conservative who has enacted the worst abortion law in the country...one where women can not go to a public hospital after an abortion if there are complications. In fact, if a woman comes in bleeding out...the doctor must first decide if it is an abortion or a miscarriage...not always easy to tell. Kasich has destroyed education here. Also there is a charter school scandal where is cronies have been misusing taxpayer money that is about to break. He also claims to have expanded medicaid, but try to use it...in short he is a Republican and once is known...will lose.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #68)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:11 PM

74. and yet

Republican presidential candidate and Gov. John Kasich has surged to an all-time high job approval rating among voters in his home state of Ohio, according to the results of the latest Quinnipiac University poll released Thursday.

More than six in 10—62 percent—said they approve of the job their governor is doing. Kasich, a GOP presidential candidate, drew just 29 percent disapproval. The numbers are in line with Kasich's previous high of 61 percent to 28 percent in August, still within the statistical margin of error.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/poll-john-kasich-ohio-approval-numbers-214549

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:49 PM

70. K&R

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:56 PM

72. If by some shenanigan-filled miracle Kasich gets the nomination, the GOP will implode

It doesn't matter what his projected matchups are now, and this far out they are also kinda bullshit anyways. If the GOP is ass backwards enough to to nominate someone that won a single state...his home one, at that...right-wing voters will sit home by the tens of thousands.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:28 PM

75. scary

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Response to GreatGazoo (Reply #75)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:43 PM

81. Untrue

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Response to Dem2 (Reply #81)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:47 PM

86. a tie? like Bush v Gore we know how those work out

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Response to GreatGazoo (Reply #86)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:53 PM

87. It's silly to be concerned about matchup polls 7 months away before either candidate has been

nominated.

So, you were lied to - it's not even close to the language described in the O/P ("crushed".

But instead of being annoyed at the O/P, you simply move the goalposts?


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Response to Dem2 (Reply #87)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 08:07 PM

89. Yes scary, the stakes are very high in this election

you respond twice then lose and complain and say the whole thing is silly

Clinton's line is falling like dead quail in YOUR graph and you are

??

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:37 PM

76. That's the bottom line. Hillary should get out of the way and let Bernie beat the Republicans.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:38 PM

77. Neither Sanders nor Kasich have been vetted and so their polling is not reliable

Sanders will not do well in the general in that he has not been vetted. The polling cited in the OP is bogus in that Sanders has not been vetted and no negative ads have been run against him http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-sanders-superdelegates-pennsylvania-20160424-story.html
Many Clinton-friendly superdelegates turned to Barack Obama in 2008, she says, but only after he built a comfortable lead. Those superdelegates helped Obama close out the race; Clinton conceded that June.

"If you can't argue that you won the most popular votes, it's hard to go to people who are close to Hillary and think she would be a very good president and argue that they should start switching," Kamarck said.

Sanders has said he is at a disadvantage in states like New York and Pennsylvania, where independents can't vote in primaries. He called Clinton "the candidate of the establishment" in a recent interview with CBS but said superdelegates would come to his side when they realized "we are defeating Trump by much larger numbers" than Clinton in polls.

That argument is fragile, though; polls of hypothetical general election matchups at this stage of a presidential race generally have little relationship with an outcome. "We are sophisticated enough to know that that's because no one has done a negative ad about Sen. Sanders, whereas she has taken incoming for 23 years," Rendell said of Clinton.

Yes, Sanders negatives are lower now because Sanders has not been vetted or had millions and millions dollars of negative ads run against him. The premise of the OP is simply false

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:43 PM

80. Kasich isnt going anywhere

and if he did, he will find himself under the hot lights.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:44 PM

83. Kasich hasn't done a thing for Ohio, he claims Obama's

economic recovery as his doing.

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