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Debby Schultz: Clinton Used Private Email The Same Way as Previous Secretaries of State … (Video) (Original Post) insta8er Apr 2016 OP
Is she stupid or lying? vintx Apr 2016 #1
I didn't want to say it, but the way she is conducting herself on camera I would guess insta8er Apr 2016 #2
Yep I saw how she later admitted she was just being a fucking liar. vintx Apr 2016 #3
And this is the "impartial" one who is making sure that both candidates are being fairly treated. insta8er Apr 2016 #7
Yes, anyone with two brain cells to rub together has seen right through her vintx Apr 2016 #11
she is bad. kgnu_fan Apr 2016 #22
I guess you are stupid Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #8
There is a HUGE difference between an email ACCOUNT and an email SERVER. vintx Apr 2016 #14
Man you do follow the Hillton drum to the exact beat, if you were to immerse yourself in anything insta8er Apr 2016 #18
Why not both? AzDar Apr 2016 #20
She is hoping the viewers will believe her and many do because they don't research what is bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #32
What a bold faced liar she is. TM99 Apr 2016 #4
Information that is subject to subpoena, or information from hearsay? TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #5
She's a liar. No other SOS mixed their "charity" personal and SOS business Autumn Apr 2016 #6
Liar amborin Apr 2016 #9
Other SoS didn't exchange classified information with non-clearanced people... HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #10
You know you've lost the argument when you have to defend Fox News Tarc Apr 2016 #12
So you're in the box for MSNBC? Both are opinion. Better to diversify...you're smarter when you do. snowy owl Apr 2016 #28
It was not Fox News that spoke it was Ms. Debbie in her own words. bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #33
She is a liar. n/t djean111 Apr 2016 #13
Ms. Payday Lender has no problem telling a lie. Skwmom Apr 2016 #15
Saw this. Wallace is good. I need to send more money to Canova. snowy owl Apr 2016 #16
OK, I see your purpose here Dem2 Apr 2016 #17
Hey Dem2..wondered when you were going to show up... insta8er Apr 2016 #19
K&R sadoldgirl Apr 2016 #21
Loathsome turd / FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #23
Bull shit John Kerry has never used personal email for Goverment business awake Apr 2016 #24
The lying is so hard to take, isn't it. They get away with it by an uninformed electorate. snowy owl Apr 2016 #25
What a lying POS she is. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #26
God I hate that POS whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #27
+100 840high Apr 2016 #29
And other than the classified information jfern Apr 2016 #30
Lying POS onecaliberal Apr 2016 #31
if you admit that there's a difference between having a different email address MisterP Apr 2016 #34
Back in the late 80's early 90s I set up a few classified systems beedle Apr 2016 #35
 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
1. Is she stupid or lying?
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:01 PM
Apr 2016

Other SoS's used private email.

Not private email SERVERS.

Can these people seriously be this stupid? Or are they really just shameless fucking liars?


EDIT: LOL, I see, she got to it later.

What a fucking bullshit slinging scam artist. I fucking hate her so much. She needs to retire and go away. Far, far away.

 

insta8er

(960 posts)
2. I didn't want to say it, but the way she is conducting herself on camera I would guess
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:03 PM
Apr 2016

she is lying!....Lets see how long we can keep this video up here.

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
3. Yep I saw how she later admitted she was just being a fucking liar.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:05 PM
Apr 2016

Fucking pathetic. Con artists. Shameless con artists.

 

insta8er

(960 posts)
7. And this is the "impartial" one who is making sure that both candidates are being fairly treated.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:09 PM
Apr 2016

I can see why people accuse her of having her thumb on the scale for HRC, the way she is defending her is beyond being impartial.

When did this country become one that is supporting the people that so clearly are gaming the system?

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
11. Yes, anyone with two brain cells to rub together has seen right through her
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:11 PM
Apr 2016

right from the moment she announced the primary schedule. If not before.

Loathe is too soft a word. I absolutely abhor her.

Demsrule86

(71,033 posts)
8. I guess you are stupid
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:10 PM
Apr 2016

Colin Powell said it was true on MSNBC and her is an article from News Week Feb 2016

The shocking truth about the last two Republican secretaries of state has finally come out: Colin Powell and aides to Condoleezza Rice trafficked in classified information on their personal email accounts. This is an enormous scandal!Oh, wait. No, it’s not.This news involving Powell and Rice is meaningless except that it sets up a rational conversation (finally) about the Hillary Clinton bogus “email-gate” imbroglio. Perhaps the partisans on each side will now be more willing to listen to the facts. From the beginning, the “scandal” about Clinton using a personal email account when she was secretary of state—including the finding that a few documents on it were retroactively deemed classified—has been a big nothing-burger perpetuated for partisan purposes, with reports spooned out by Republicans attempting to deceive or acting out of ignorance. Conservative commentators have raged, presidential candidates have fallen over themselves in apoplectic babbling, and some politicians have proclaimed that Clinton should be in jail for mishandling classified information. The nonsense has been never-ending, and attempts to cut through the fog of duplicity have been fruitless.

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
14. There is a HUGE difference between an email ACCOUNT and an email SERVER.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:12 PM
Apr 2016

I guess we know why you're still spewing this nonsense. At least you're not a fucking liar.

 

insta8er

(960 posts)
18. Man you do follow the Hillton drum to the exact beat, if you were to immerse yourself in anything
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:15 PM
Apr 2016

that is not controlled by the Hill gang, you would come to know that there are no documents being retro actively made classified.
The reason for this is...wait for it...wait for it..let me use capital letters so you might not miss it.. PRIVATE SERVER....That does not have any classification system installed on it. ONLY GOVERNMENT SERVERS have CLASSIFICATION Systems and triggers. So everything that was on that PRIVATE SERVER was not Classified on that system. BUT WAS CLASSIFIED ON THE GOVERNMENT SERVERS. I am in IT myself, if you need a crash course I will point you out to where you can read up on it.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
32. She is hoping the viewers will believe her and many do because they don't research what is
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:14 PM
Apr 2016

going on.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
4. What a bold faced liar she is.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:08 PM
Apr 2016

No, this is not the same.

A private email account is not the same as a private email server.

This woman need to be out on her ass really fucking soon!

Autumn

(46,664 posts)
6. She's a liar. No other SOS mixed their "charity" personal and SOS business
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:09 PM
Apr 2016

in their private e mail and ran it through their private server to avoid FOIA requests.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
10. Other SoS didn't exchange classified information with non-clearanced people...
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:11 PM
Apr 2016

...like Clinton did with Blumenthall, possibly others. And other SoS didn't form a slush fund to handle quid pro quo 'donations' from corporations and foreign govts with business pending in State Dept.

BTW...DWS is a liar. She lies constantly. You can tell she's lying because her lips are moving.

Tarc

(10,579 posts)
12. You know you've lost the argument when you have to defend Fox News
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:12 PM
Apr 2016

in order to attack Hillary Clinton.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
28. So you're in the box for MSNBC? Both are opinion. Better to diversify...you're smarter when you do.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:00 PM
Apr 2016

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
16. Saw this. Wallace is good. I need to send more money to Canova.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:13 PM
Apr 2016

Did you notice the fast smile at the very beginning? She is just so false. It was a real effort to show support for both candidates, wasn't it DWS?

awake

(3,226 posts)
24. Bull shit John Kerry has never used personal email for Goverment business
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:54 PM
Apr 2016

Debby Schultz is a real pice of work, and she is incharge of running the DNC, what a tragedy.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
25. The lying is so hard to take, isn't it. They get away with it by an uninformed electorate.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:57 PM
Apr 2016

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
34. if you admit that there's a difference between having a different email address
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:13 PM
Apr 2016

and setting up a secret server in your house's basement, then you can't be a glassy-eyed votary dedicated to destroying every principle of the party to ensure a coronation

duh!

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
35. Back in the late 80's early 90s I set up a few classified systems
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:47 PM
Apr 2016

I'm not sure at all if this still works the same way as it used to but I would suspect that it would still make sense to operate in a similar fashion.


You and your ID are classified at a certain 'security level', let's say for the sake of an example I have a security level of "6".

All my communications are also by default at 'level 6', meaning that by default only people at security level 6 or above will be able to access my documents, and I will not be able to send even an email to anyone at a level less than 6.

If I tried to send an email to a level 5 or lower person the system would automatically prevent me from doing so, coming back with a message warning me with a gentle reminder of my attempt to breach security protocol.

So, if I want to send an email or document to a level 5 or lower I would be reminded that I need to review what I am sending to make sure that the information was suitable for someone under my security classification to view. The system couldn't decide that (unless of course I was attempting to forward an email or document from someone else with the same or higher classification, in which case I would just be refused, the owner of the original email or document would be the only person able to lower the security level on their documents or emails - well, there were other ways, but it needed to go up the chain to happen.)

If I reviewed my document and decided that all the level 6 classified info was either removed, or was actually suitable to a lower security level I would have to temporarily lower my personal security level on the system, to the level that I was attempting to send the information to .. so if I though I needed to send an email to a level 5 person to say invite them to lunch, I would set my security level to 5 and send the email (soon as I finished that single function my security level was immediately returned to a level 6 to make sure I didn't accidentally send out level 6 info to other level 5 people.)

Okay, so that's probably a little long winded and not really that relevant on on modern systems, but security level systems, be they computer or otherwise should still work in a similar fashion. The information you handle is automatically at YOUR security level, and you need to explicitly lower the security level if you are passing it on to others of a lower security level, and that process needs to be documented or at least recorded.

A private system in your basement is highly unlikely to meet the requirements of the a government department such as the State Department, meaning every single email sent from the system was in breach of security protocols. Yeah, it's possible that nothing was passed on to people of the wrong security level, unlikely but possible, but just the fact that there was no audit trail available to confirm this assertion would make it a serious breach of security.

Now maybe things have changed from the early 90's, maybe there are no more security levels and State Department security protocols are just a 'best efforts' things these days ... again, that's highly unlikely, and no matter how low the standards have fallen, I still have serious doubts your average basement server Windows IT admin is up to the task of keeping a certified secure system up and running to DoD level standards (especially since we know for sure that they didn't even use a fucking certificate to encrypt their communications for a good part of the servers existence.)

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