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Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:55 PM

 

Is a war with Iran imminent under Hillary Clinton as president

Hillary has threatened to nuke Iran(and South Asia). And, she threatened to attack Iran many other times - as late as October 2015. She said if she were president we would go to war with Iran. Do you believe that if Hillary Clinton is president, a war with Iran is imminent?

"In 2008, she promised if elected president to “obliterate” Iran if it attacked Israel—even if the United States was unthreatened and Congress had not authorized war: “I want the Iranians to know, if I am the president, we will attack Iran... And I want them to understand that... we would be able to totally obliterate them [to retaliate for an attack on Israel].”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bruce-fein/-hillary-clintons-appalli_b_9157892.html


More Links:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-hesitate-military-action-iran-attempts-nuclear/story?id=33630243
http://www.salon.com/2015/10/14/hillary_is_still_the_democrat_for_war_she_won_the_debate_but_her_bellicosity_toward_iran_sounded_very_dangerous/
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/24246275/ns/msnbc-countdown_with_keith_olbermann/t/clinton-warns-iran-us-nuclear-response/

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A war with Iran is imminent if Hillary is president.
37 (77%)
A war with Iran is not imminent if Hillary is president - could happen but who knows?
9 (19%)
I don't know either way
2 (4%)
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Reply Is a war with Iran imminent under Hillary Clinton as president (Original post)
Unicorn Apr 2016 OP
Smarmie Doofus Apr 2016 #1
Maedhros Apr 2016 #26
dflprincess Apr 2016 #29
Smarmie Doofus Apr 2016 #32
MADem Apr 2016 #2
still_one Apr 2016 #27
MADem Apr 2016 #34
riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #3
JaneyVee Apr 2016 #4
Unicorn Apr 2016 #7
timmymoff Apr 2016 #35
Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #5
pampango Apr 2016 #6
Control-Z Apr 2016 #8
artislife Apr 2016 #10
Carolina Apr 2016 #9
ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2016 #11
pkdu Apr 2016 #12
Unicorn Apr 2016 #13
pkdu Apr 2016 #14
Unicorn Apr 2016 #17
Splinter Cell Apr 2016 #15
Onlooker Apr 2016 #16
Unicorn Apr 2016 #18
Unicorn Apr 2016 #36
Unicorn Apr 2016 #39
SidDithers Apr 2016 #19
JoePhilly Apr 2016 #20
dionysus Apr 2016 #30
TheFarseer Apr 2016 #31
hack89 Apr 2016 #21
TekGryphon Apr 2016 #22
RobertEarl Apr 2016 #38
SidDithers Apr 2016 #45
Baobab Apr 2016 #23
FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #24
Kittycat Apr 2016 #25
LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #28
msongs Apr 2016 #33
Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #37
lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #40
onenote Apr 2016 #41
BlueStateLib Apr 2016 #42
betsuni Apr 2016 #43
Orsino Apr 2016 #44
Holly_Hobby Apr 2016 #46
TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #47

Response to Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:58 PM

1. A war with *someone* is imminent.

 

Anyone " w. eyes that can see...."

She's just gotta do it.

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Response to Smarmie Doofus (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:07 PM

26. She seems to enjoy war on a visceral level.[n/t]

 

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Response to Maedhros (Reply #26)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:22 PM

29. It's a business opportunity

and she thinks it makes her look tough - like Margaret Thatcher.

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Response to Maedhros (Reply #26)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:54 PM

32. Lots of dead bodies, torn body parts, wrecked minds and broken families.

 

What's not to enjoy?

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Response to Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:59 PM

2. Nothing like loading the potato with all sorts of crapola. That's a real meal.... nt

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Response to MADem (Reply #2)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:16 PM

27. Agreed. Also, those that believe the loaded push poll with the links, their predictions have not

not been very accurate.

Of course is another lame attempt to allow the dissing of Hillary, in this case with a hypothetical straw man










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Response to still_one (Reply #27)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 12:02 AM

34. The bottom line is this, though--all the angry, dire flailing ain't gonna change the result.

Don't stick the fork in the toaster, but that toast is BERNt.

The BERd has fallen off the perch....! And he ain't pining for the fjords!

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Response to Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:00 PM

3. Yes. She's on record saying she'd prioritize Israel's needs (war with Iran)

 



She considers war criminal Netanyahu a friend.

I will do everything I can to enhance our strategic partnership and strengthen America’s security commitment to Israel, ensuring that it always has the qualitative military edge to defend itself. That includes immediately dispatching a delegation of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to meet with senior Israeli commanders. I would also invite the Israeli prime minister to the White House in my first month in office.


Read more: http://forward.com/opinion/national/324013/how-i-would-rebuild-ties-to-israel-and-benjamin-neta/#ixzz47AmFOrYy

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Response to Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:00 PM

4. She helped create the Iran Nuke Treaty.

 

Donald Trump is your enemy, not Hillary Clinton.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:02 PM

7. She demanded to break it two week later and threated to attack Iran. That was in Oct 2015.

 

Obama wouldn't break it, he defended it against her.

Note: that she was against it from the beginning, and only agreed in the 11th hour, many believe because of polls. She even claimed she had supported it and it was a good thing when she campaigned in Dec 2015 - even though she had publically demanded to break it within 2 weeks of it being signed and had threatened to attack Iran.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 12:05 AM

35. Don't forget her vote also helped create Isis.

 

I doubt I would pat myself on the back regarding her foreign policy. But hey Kissinger agrees, so that must be good, right? Or just good and right?

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Response to Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:01 PM

5. Imminent? Maybe/maybe not. But, certainly more likely than now.

 

Her overt ties to Israel and threats against Iran make that clear.

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Response to Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:01 PM

6. No but Trump will abrogate the Iran nuclear agreement. Military action will be his go-to response.

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Response to Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:05 PM

8. Is a new outbreak of Ebola imminent

under Hillary Clinton as president?

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Response to Control-Z (Reply #8)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:06 PM

10. Another deflection by using a deflection.

 

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Response to Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:05 PM

9. War...

it's what she does! MIC corporatist $Hillary never saw a war or opportunity for regime change that she didn't like.

IWR was the straw for me. Since then, she has only added more misery to the world (Honduras, Libya, Syria) and thereby, reinforced my opinion that she lacks good sense, sound judgment and fitness for the position of POTUS.

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Response to Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:07 PM

11. She has stated that the Iranians are our enemy. Soooo, that would be a yes. War is...

 

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Response to Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:10 PM

12. You really need a logic 101 refresher. Focus on "if , then statements" nt

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Response to pkdu (Reply #12)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:13 PM

13. When she was SOS I used to listen to her argue for going to war with Iran and that wasn't an if.

 

She picked up for Condolezza who was also arguing to go to war with Iran during her last few years as SOS.
They were both literally trying to get us into that war - by selling us that Iran was a threat and it was necessary that we go to war with them. There was no if.

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Response to Unicorn (Reply #13)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:16 PM

14. From your own OP..."if they attack Israel"....

But 2 points for trying the Condoleezza deflect tion.

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Response to pkdu (Reply #14)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:22 PM

17. I'm trying to tell you the history of it.

 

But I don't believe that is possible. Some of us remember when she was SOS and remember when Condolezza was. But that's also the kind of people who pay attention and not just during elections. And the kind of people who would google and not pull crap out of their butt in retort. The people saying yes in this poll are informed. They aren't pulling it out of there arse. Anyway, back to ignore for you. It's impossible to even attempt to tell you what was going on or expect you to google.

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Response to Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:16 PM

15. She's a war monger.

It would happen if she was President.

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Response to Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:19 PM

16. Yes, if Iran fired nukes at Israel, as your link says

 

I guess the alternative is to allow Iran to commit genocide.

Are Bernie supporters for the genocide of Jews? You realize that would include Bernie, don't you?

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Response to Onlooker (Reply #16)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:25 PM

18. She said she would attack Iran if she even thought they were making nukes.

 

She also said if they attacked Israel. I believe in Oct 2015 she said both. I have to drive home but am happy to come back here later and give links.

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Response to Onlooker (Reply #16)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 12:09 AM

36. Links

 

Last edited Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:01 AM - Edit history (2)

"But Clinton, despite her words of encouragement for Obama’s efforts to reach a deal with Iran, did not wholeheartedly endorse the process.

“But even if we do get such a deal, we will still have major problems from Iran,” she said. “They are the world’s chief sponsor of terrorism. They use proxies like Hezbollah to sow discord and to create insurgencies, to destabilize governments. They are taking more and more control of a number of nations in the region and they pose an existential threat to Israel.”

“So even if we are successful on the nuclear front, we still are going to have to turn our attention to working with our partners to try to rein in and prevent this continuing Iranian aggressiveness,” Clinton said."


https://www.yahoo.com/news/hillary-clinton-cautions-that-an-iran-deal-wont-123141563306.html



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This is well worth reading: How Clinton inforces the Iran Treaty - by selling arms to Israel and intefering with iran plans and proxi's


Clinton echoed the Obama administration’s pledges that the U.S. will continue to ensure that Israel’s military capabilities are superior to those of others in the region. She called for increased funding for Israel’s rocket and missile defense systems, including the Iron Dome, which Israel says intercepted 90 percent of the rockets fired from Gaza into populated areas during last year’s war with Hamas. She pushed to provide Israel with technology to detect tunnels used by Hamas to funnel fighters and weapons in and out of the blockaded Gaza strip. Clinton also announced that she supports selling the the F-35 to Israel, which would make it the only U.S. ally eligible for the new generation of fighter aircraft.

IIn addition to boosting aid to Israel, Clinton called for increased cooperation with U.S. allies in the Gulf to counter Iran’s ability to back militant proxy groups in Lebanon, Syria, Yemen and the occupied Palestinian territories. Critics and cautious supporters of the nuclear accord have both warned that at least some of the cash bound for Iran as a result of sanctions relief will go to arming its proxies.

Clinton zeroed in on cutting off Iran’s ability to fund and arm Hezbollah, the proxy in Lebanon that has been fighting alongside President Bashar al Assad in Syria. Her speech also called on U.S. allies to block Iranian planes from entering Syria. In addition, she recommended increasing the U.S. military presence in the Middle East as part of a broader effort to ensure that the Strait of Hormuz, a main passageway for the flow of international oil off the coast of Iran, remains open.

Clinton’s calls for putting more troops in the Middle East and blocking Iran’s efforts to prop up Assad signal that her approach to Syria would be hawkish compared to the cautious path taken by the Obama administration. Although President Barack Obama’s official position is that Assad has lost legitimacy as the leader of Syria, he balked at military action there in 2013 and has more recently acknowledged that Iran will need to play a role in any negotiated solution to the four-year-long civil war
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-iran-israel_us_55efb2fbe4b093be51bcbb6f

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Note: that the Iran nuclear deal was lifting sanctions to be able to audit Iran, she's been calling for sanctions to be restored(the nuclear deal broken) since October when it was reported that Iran did a missle test. However some sites say they are in their right to do the test and the nuclear deal was only about nukes:

“But we shouldn’t thank Iran for the prisoners or for following through on its obligations. These prisoners were held unjustly by a regime that continues to threaten the peace and security of the Middle East. Another American, Bob Levinson, still isn’t home with his family. The treatment of our Navy sailors earlier this week was offensive, including the release of a demeaning and provocative video. Iran is still violating UN Security Council resolutions with its ballistic missile program, which should be met with new sanctions designations and firm resolve.

“So we can’t take our eye off the ball. As President, my approach will be to distrust and verify. I will vigorously enforce the nuclear deal as part of a comprehensive strategy that confronts all of Iran’s negative actions in the region and stand side-by-side with our ally Israel and our Arab partners.”

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/statements/2016/01/16/statement-on-iran/

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http://www.juancole.com/2016/03/hillary-clinton-goes-full-neocon-at-aipac-demonizes-iran-palestinians.html
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Retrieving more links... will up date this thread as I grab them

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Response to Onlooker (Reply #16)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:05 AM

39. Here it is: Clinton says she would not hesitate to attack Iran if it breaks nuclear deal

 

“I will not hesitate to take military action if Iran attempts to obtain a nuclear weapon,” Clinton told a Washington think-tank on Wednesday.

"The Iranians and the world need to understand that we will act decisively if we need to," she said. "As president, I will take whatever actions are necessary to protect the United States and its allies."

"Clinton further said, “I don’t see Iran as our partner in implementing the agreement. I see Iran as our subject in implementing the agreement.”"

From : Press TV
http://217.218.67.231/Detail/2015/09/09/428479/US-Iran-Nuclear-agreement-Hillary-Clinton-military-action-

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Response to Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:27 PM

19. Oh FFS...



Sid

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Response to Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:28 PM

20. The same people on DU who think Hillary would start that war ...

... predicted that Obama would start that war.

btw ... you claim that "She said if she were president we would go to war with Iran".

Do you have a direct quote for that? Or are you hiding the conditions under which she said she'd do that?

I think I know the answer.



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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #20)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:23 PM

30. she's too much of a hawk for my tastes.. i think because she is a woman she wants to appear tough...

but I don't think she'd be so rash as to start a whole new war just to look ruff n tuff...

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #20)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:36 PM

31. I never for a second thought Obama was going to war with Iran.

He's not constantly trying to prove he's the toughest SOB in the room when it comes to military action like HRC. Btw if Iran nukes Israel, I'd be in favor of war with Iran. They're trying to get nukes is not remotely a good reason to go to war.

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Response to Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:29 PM

21. The IQ of DU will triple once the primaries are over

hatred for Hillary seems to derange many here.

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Response to Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:30 PM

22. I don't think I've seen a better snapshot of how far DU has fallen into idiocy than this thread.

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Response to TekGryphon (Reply #22)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 12:21 AM

38. I know what you mean

 

31% don't have a clue what's in store with H as POTUS.

Here is the clue: Her husband bombed Iraq almost back to the stone age and set Iraq up for the bush invasion that she voted for!!

That same mindset of "They are sitting on our oil" will continue with H.

31% with no clue!!

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Response to TekGryphon (Reply #22)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:09 AM

45. Well said...



Sid

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Response to Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:34 PM

23. I don't have the feeling about Hillary and Iran i had about Bush and Iraq. However, she seems to

have no natural moral compass. Which means she is likely prone to make really bad decisions. Thats what they do.

She's a narcissist. An NPD person. So starting an unnecessary war doesn't carry the revulsion to her that it would to a normal person.

To me thats just terrifying. Its the very last thing we need in a President.

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Response to Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:34 PM

24. Warplanes would be in the air within 30 seconds of Netanyahu's order. /

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Response to Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:02 PM

25. And just in time, we have the draft ready for that woman card

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Response to Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:16 PM

28. She will advocate for ketchup on hotdogs and gin martinis.

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Response to Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:13 PM

33. bernie's been voting for all those MIC loving spending bills. if she does she will have his full

support lol

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Response to Unicorn (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 12:10 AM

37. No, because we can't afford it, not along with 10 Billion more for the drug war.

Not to mention that "manhattan project" to make sure no one can encrypt their snapchats.

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Response to Unicorn (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:10 AM

40. I wouldn't put it past her buddy Netanyahu to false flag us into that one.

 

And I fully expect president Clinton to fall for (collaborate in?) it.

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Response to Unicorn (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:39 AM

41. I've lost count of how many times someone on DU has predicted war with Iran is imminent

I've been here for 12 years and I've seen that prediction over and over and over.

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Response to Unicorn (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:56 AM

42. Would Bernie Sanders let Iran get the nuclear bomb

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Response to Unicorn (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:02 AM

43. Better OP title: "Iran out of Hillary Clinton smears!!!!1111"

Unthreatened obliteration OMG, totally.

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Response to Unicorn (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:08 AM

44. She will placate detractors on the Right with a lot of sabre-rattling...

...like the terrible "obliterate" line, but I think her militarism will continue on a smaller scale the GWOT orientation of the Obama Administration. Civilians will die, but in places fewer Americans have heard of, so that the carnage will not be as visible. As long as defense contractor donors are kept happy, we won't be faced with what we would call all-out war. Hell, someone will probably give her a Nobel, too.

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Response to Unicorn (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:37 AM

46. Who's left in the Axis of Evil? n/t

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Response to Holly_Hobby (Reply #46)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:56 AM

47. When someone wants to start a fight, they'll invent an enemy and then beat the drums of war. nt

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