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Sun May 1, 2016, 11:07 AM

 

When Secretary Clinton runs in the General Election, will 'age' become an issue again?

One of the things I noticed during the Primaries ... when Secretary Clinton announced her candidacy, one of the first things we heard the talking heads concern troll over was her age. Going so far as to even tell us lies that she would be the oldest President when first sworn into office (Reagan will still hold that distinction, even when Secretary Clinton is sworn into office in January of 2017).

But then Bernie Sanders happened, a person who is more than 6 years older than Secretary Clinton ... and since then, we've rarely heard a word about the candidates and their age. Why is that? Now that it's clear that Secretary Clinton will be the Democratic nominee ... will the media fall back on their narrative that Secretary Clinton is too old, again?

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Reply When Secretary Clinton runs in the General Election, will 'age' become an issue again? (Original post)
SFnomad May 2016 OP
Arkansas Granny May 2016 #1
SFnomad May 2016 #3
Arkansas Granny May 2016 #6
Trust Buster May 2016 #2
SFnomad May 2016 #7
Trust Buster May 2016 #12
frazzled May 2016 #4
RandySF May 2016 #5
SFnomad May 2016 #11
RandySF May 2016 #15
srobert May 2016 #8
SFnomad May 2016 #13
srobert May 2016 #19
SFnomad May 2016 #20
Hoyt May 2016 #9
Buzz Clik May 2016 #10
hobbit709 May 2016 #14
oldandhappy May 2016 #16
Hekate May 2016 #17
SFnomad May 2016 #18
TheBlackAdder May 2016 #21

Response to SFnomad (Original post)

Sun May 1, 2016, 11:09 AM

1. The likely Republican candidate is just as old. It's hard to spin that.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #1)

Sun May 1, 2016, 11:11 AM

3. I hear ya ... but that doesn't mean the media won't try ... somehow n/t

 

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Response to SFnomad (Reply #3)

Sun May 1, 2016, 11:13 AM

6. Maybe they can get Geritol to sponsor the debates.

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Response to SFnomad (Original post)

Sun May 1, 2016, 11:09 AM

2. Trump is male and older with a shorter average life expectancy. Did I clear that up for you ?

 

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #2)

Sun May 1, 2016, 11:14 AM

7. Trump hasn't won it yet ... and if he doesn't get a clear majority, it's very possible he won't get

 

the nomination.

So there will be several months the media can concern troll about it and hypothesize about a Cruz candidacy. Have I cleared that up for you?

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Response to SFnomad (Reply #7)

Sun May 1, 2016, 11:17 AM

12. When Trump wins Indiana, the media will consider him the presumptive nominee. Actually, after

 

blowing out his rivals last Tuesday in 5 states, the media has already accepted the obvious.

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Response to SFnomad (Original post)

Sun May 1, 2016, 11:12 AM

4. Donald Trump is older than Clinton

So no. Although, imo, they're all a bit old. Anyone older than me is old, and they're all older than me (though not by much). It's not about knowledge or mental ability; it's just that it's an exhausting job.

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Response to SFnomad (Original post)

Sun May 1, 2016, 11:13 AM

5. Her age as an issue against this guy?

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Response to RandySF (Reply #5)

Sun May 1, 2016, 11:16 AM

11. I just posted something about him to someone else

 

Even though tRump is the clear leader, if he doesn't get the nomination on the first ballot, there is a good possibility the RNC will snatch the nomination from him. So this will leave a couple of months for the media to concern troll over Secretary Clinton's age.

And even if tRump is the nominee ... I just wonder if the media can (((spin))) things to make Secretary Clinton's age (even though she is younger) and issue, without doing the same to tRump.

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Response to SFnomad (Reply #11)

Sun May 1, 2016, 11:19 AM

15. They would not talk about her age if she were a man

That said, I really don't think they will go there.

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Response to SFnomad (Original post)

Sun May 1, 2016, 11:14 AM

8. By "When" You Mean "IF"

 

The final out in the ball game hasn't happened yet. It is still mathematically possible that Bernie Sanders will be the nominee. Unlikely, but possible. Age would not be an issue to his supporters. Why would it be for Mrs. Clinton, if she should become the nominee. No, it will not be an issue either way.

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Response to srobert (Reply #8)

Sun May 1, 2016, 11:17 AM

13. Snap out of it ... I mean WHEN. She will be the nominee. n/t

 

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Response to SFnomad (Reply #13)

Sun May 1, 2016, 11:40 AM

19. Eggs Are Not Chickens

 

We will Admit Defeat IF and When we are defeated and not one second before that.

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Response to srobert (Reply #19)

Sun May 1, 2016, 11:47 AM

20. You can be in denial all you want ... doesn't mean I have to be there with you n/t

 

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Response to SFnomad (Original post)

Sun May 1, 2016, 11:15 AM

9. She's looking quite healthy and strong right now.

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Response to SFnomad (Original post)

Sun May 1, 2016, 11:16 AM

10. Not against Trump.

 

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Response to SFnomad (Original post)

Sun May 1, 2016, 11:17 AM

14. Her age has never been any of my issues with her.

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Response to SFnomad (Original post)

Sun May 1, 2016, 11:20 AM

16. media is totally pro clinton, trump is older

If Cruz is the candidate, all bets are off. He is vicious.

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Response to SFnomad (Original post)

Sun May 1, 2016, 11:20 AM

17. Isn't The Donald 70? Or is that concern only for lady-age?

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Response to Hekate (Reply #17)

Sun May 1, 2016, 11:22 AM

18. Unstated ... that was part of what I was getting at, there are two possibilities

 

Clinton v. tRump - Will they go after lady-age only?

Clinton v. Cruz - Will they go after her age, even through tRump would have been a little older and Sanders would have been well older.

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Response to SFnomad (Original post)

Sun May 1, 2016, 11:56 AM

21. The GOPers will throw all kinds of shit at the fan, it's what sticks with their simplistic base.

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While age will play to the stupid crowd, they are more prone to buy into misogyny and anything else.
These types of people would be unreachable anyway, so regardless of the tactics, they are unmovable.



Gender will be leading an and most interesting dynamic, more so than age.


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45% of women (evangelicals, orthodox, etc.) are against the ERA, and believe in a paternalistic society.

So, one question is how many of them could actually be swayed to hop the fence?


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While a lot of men claim feminist leanings, deep down many hold on to paternalistic thoughts too.
Watch for people who comment about looks, wrinkles, clothing, tone of voice as an indicator.
I see a few here who exhibit these tricks, with HRC and SBS--any use indicates conservative (little c) thoughts.

How many of the Dems will hop the fence to vote for a male, purely out of this dynamic?


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It would be nice if folks steered over to Rutgers-Eagleton's Center for American Woman and Politics for the day.
It is the only university that specializes in the dynamics of women in politics.

http://www.cawp.rutgers.edu/


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