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FourScore

(9,704 posts)
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:05 PM May 2016

Guccifer: Tells how he hacked, saw evidence of up to 10 other hackers from other parts of the world

MotherJones is now reporting on a FoxNews interview with Guccifer:

Wearing a green jumpsuit, Lazar was relaxed and polite in the monitored secure visitor center, separated by thick security glass. In describing the process, Lazar said he did extensive research on the web and then guessed Blumenthal’s security question. Once inside Blumenthal's account, Lazar said he saw dozens of messages from the Clinton email address.

Asked if he was curious about the address, Lazar merely smiled. Asked if he used the same security question approach to access the Clinton emails, he said no — then described how he allegedly got inside.

“For example, when Sidney Blumenthal got an email, I checked the email pattern from Hillary Clinton, from Colin Powell from anyone else to find out the originating IP. … When they send a letter, the email header is the originating IP usually,” Lazar explained.

He said, “then I scanned with an IP scanner." Lazar emphasized that he used readily available web programs to see if the server was “alive” and which ports were open. Lazar identified programs like netscan, Netmap, Wireshark and Angry IP, though it was not possible to confirm independently which, if any, he used.

In the process of mining data from the Blumenthal account, Lazar said he came across evidence that others were on the Clinton server. "As far as I remember, yes, there were … up to 10, like, IPs from other parts of the world,” he said.


http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/05/conservatives-are-drooling-yet-again-over-hillarys-email-account

I hope everyone realizes that this is only the beginning. Trump will make this an issue and it will be in the news non-stop now. Reality TV at it's finest. First the server, then the pay-to-play and the FBI investigation. Accusations will fly that Obama's Justice Department is blocking the indictment, and democrats will be on the defensive. This cannot end well. The republicans will threaten to start impeachment proceedings if she is nominated. The public will be reminded of all the Clinton scandals and become disenchanted.

Whether any of it is true or not is almost irrelevant. It will be relentless.

She needs to get out of the race NOW.
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Guccifer: Tells how he hacked, saw evidence of up to 10 other hackers from other parts of the world (Original Post) FourScore May 2016 OP
K/R! nt CentralCoaster May 2016 #1
Makes me wonder if there's anything to the claim Press Virginia May 2016 #2
The timing of his extradition is fairly suggestive of that. Barack_America May 2016 #3
Routine for 'security reviews' to issue extradition and immunity,... HooptieWagon May 2016 #4
Well, we don't know the extradition is tied to it but Press Virginia May 2016 #5
FBI filed the extradition papers. HooptieWagon May 2016 #9
Didn't know that. Makes the story a lot more interesting Press Virginia May 2016 #10
I think that term is "Hillaryous." Fawke Em May 2016 #25
then the ten other IPs were other countries snooping? Oh my god. What an amateur move roguevalley May 2016 #34
Her absolute disrespect for Obama is what fries me most. grasswire May 2016 #36
Well, if it's on the internet, and came from Fox News.... Sparkly May 2016 #6
Lots of little fires popping up across the desert.. nc4bo May 2016 #7
lots of suckers on DU falling for it all. Sad. KittyWampus May 2016 #17
I do see a lot of ostriches on here. Fawke Em May 2016 #26
You know what they say on Fox: JTFrog May 2016 #8
Childish retorts TM99 May 2016 #11
Bless your heart. JTFrog May 2016 #12
Bless yours TM99 May 2016 #13
At least I'm no ratfucker. nt JTFrog May 2016 #14
If you support Clinton TM99 May 2016 #15
Just on your jury, Frog.. Cha May 2016 #19
Thanks Cha. JTFrog May 2016 #28
They're so desperate.. Come hang out in Hillary's Group.. we have a lot of fun supporting Cha May 2016 #30
Wait, calling people dense isn't a childish retort? mythology May 2016 #22
I don't suffer fools gladly TM99 May 2016 #24
I do. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #39
What about calling my friends ratfuckers? Ed Suspicious May 2016 #31
Why would you be friends with ratfuckers? SecularMotion May 2016 #41
This is interesting... Land of Enchantment May 2016 #16
Mother of all Hail Marys. Scurrilous May 2016 #18
OK - if Mother Jones goes and interviews Guccifer and he tells them Fawke Em May 2016 #27
Clapping real hard to revive the Indictment Fairy Tarc May 2016 #20
Part of the planning on Libya was done privately using Blumenthal's polly7 May 2016 #23
Thanks. 840high May 2016 #32
and it was faulty intelligence. grasswire May 2016 #37
Yes, thank you for this, grasswire. nt. polly7 May 2016 #40
Ha - I don't even know if The Rock can save her now! nt jmg257 May 2016 #29
Mother Jones is part of the VRWC?!? FlatBaroque May 2016 #21
Attack the messenger is all Camp Weathervane has left at this point to fight this leveymg May 2016 #33
The public will be reminded...but many may also get angry and defend her. HereSince1628 May 2016 #35
when they defend her in this matter... grasswire May 2016 #38
 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
2. Makes me wonder if there's anything to the claim
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:08 PM
May 2016

that he was extradited to the US as part of the "security review"

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
4. Routine for 'security reviews' to issue extradition and immunity,...
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:14 PM
May 2016

...so we're told by Camp Bansalot.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
9. FBI filed the extradition papers.
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:21 PM
May 2016

They are also the ones who issued Clintons IT guy immunity in exchange for his testimony.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
25. I think that term is "Hillaryous."
Wed May 4, 2016, 11:25 PM
May 2016

The company I work for does security reviews. We do risk analysis reports and vulnerability scans.

The FBI, on the other hand, investigates potential criminal activity. They're not a cyber security assessment company.

And you can bet money that Guccifer was extradited now as a result of the FBI's CRIMINAL investigation. He's been in jail in Romania for more than two years. Romania is a friendly nation when it comes to extradition. If the U.S. government had wanted him sooner, they would have agreed sooner. It's pretty obvious.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
34. then the ten other IPs were other countries snooping? Oh my god. What an amateur move
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:48 AM
May 2016

this is. I will probably be banned for that. Apparently everyone is really touchy about this when they aren't yawning.

Guccifer is a real piece of work. He will rip her up. I read about him before and he's a real sharp operator. Imagine what the world knows and how they will use it against her. Sidney Blumenthal wasn't even supposed to be in her stuff because Obama said for him not to be included. She has no excuse for this and she owes Obama a HUGE apology. Yes, let's make her president. We need more of this kind of judgement.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
36. Her absolute disrespect for Obama is what fries me most.
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:22 PM
May 2016

She evidently thought so little of him, or thought herself so superior to him, that she ran a rogue foreign policy shop out of sight of the President of the United States, and jeopardized his administration and his legacy.

THAT is what really really really burns. Aside from the exposure of CIA operatives' identities, of course.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
7. Lots of little fires popping up across the desert..
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:19 PM
May 2016

Sooner or later they are going to want to merge.

Gonna and sit back, wait and see where they go.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
11. Childish retorts
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:28 PM
May 2016

really don't address the seriousness of hacking the server of the SoS that she illicitly used out of her own home.

Pull your head out of the sand and pay attention.

If Clinton pulls off the nomination, this is what you are going to face with voters, the media, and the courts in the next six months.

Keep fucking that chicken isn't going to cut it sweetpea.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
13. Bless yours
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:40 PM
May 2016

Last edited Wed May 4, 2016, 11:40 PM - Edit history (1)

that you are too dense to see what's right in front of you.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
15. If you support Clinton
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:55 PM
May 2016

Last edited Wed May 4, 2016, 11:40 PM - Edit history (1)

and therefore Brock, sweetheart you have been rooting for ratfuckery since last spring when Sanders entered.

Don't kid yourself with more mindless rationalizations.

Cha

(297,187 posts)
19. Just on your jury, Frog..
Wed May 4, 2016, 11:08 PM
May 2016

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At least I'm no ratfucker. nt
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JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
28. Thanks Cha.
Wed May 4, 2016, 11:58 PM
May 2016

Pretty much done listening to the sore losers who are hitching their wagons to the likes of Fox and infowars mouthpieces. I'll stand with Hillary and the Democratic Party any day over those sick bastards at Fox and friends.

Land of Enchantment

(1,217 posts)
16. This is interesting...
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:58 PM
May 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guccifer
U.S. indictment[edit]
In June 2014, Guccifer was indicted in absentia by a grand federal jury in the U.S. State of Virginia for his hacking activities in the United States. The indictment claimed Guccifer hacked into the email and social media accounts of high-profile victims, including a family member of two former U.S. presidents, a former U.S. cabinet member, a former member of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff and a former presidential advisor. The U.S. Justice Department did not indicate whether it would seek extradition of Guccifer from Romania, where he was jailed in January 2014 for seven years.[13]



https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/98-958.pdf
Extradition is triggered by a request submitted through diplomatic channels. In this country, it
proceeds through the Departments of Justice and State and may be presented to a federal
magistrate to order a hearing to determine whether the request is in compliance with an applicable
treaty, whether it provides sufficient evidence to satisfy probable cause to believe that the fugitive
committed the identified treaty offense(s), and whether other treaty requirements have been met.
If so, the magistrate certifies the case for extradition at the discretion of the Secretary of State.
Except as provided by treaty, the magistrate does not inquire into the nature of foreign
proceedings likely to follow extradition.



https://www.rt.com/usa/334846-romanian-hacker-guccifer-extradition/
In March 2013, the hacker released to RT and several other news outlets the four memos that had been sent to Clinton from her former political adviser Sidney Blumenthal. The memos contain information regarding the September 11, 2012 attacks on the US diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, as well as the January 2013 hostage crisis in In Amenas, Algeria.

Lehel was indicted by the Department of Justice in 2014 on charges of wire fraud, unauthorized access to a protected computer, cyberstalking, aggravated identity theft and obstruction of justice.


Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
18. Mother of all Hail Marys.
Wed May 4, 2016, 11:07 PM
May 2016

Remember, reporting or commenting on something FOX News says is not in itself necessarily news. It's catapulting the propaganda.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
27. OK - if Mother Jones goes and interviews Guccifer and he tells them
Wed May 4, 2016, 11:30 PM
May 2016

the EXACT same thing, will you believe it then?



MoJo is just reporting what the dude said, no matter who he said it to.

What's sad is that so few media are actually following up on this important story and leaving it to right-wing news sites to do so. What the hell is going to happen if the Democratic establishment nominates Hillary and she gets indicted or threatened with it? Don't you find that troubling?

polly7

(20,582 posts)
23. Part of the planning on Libya was done privately using Blumenthal's
Wed May 4, 2016, 11:22 PM
May 2016

information - 'keep em coming' - Blumenthal, who'd been kicked out by Obama but who Clinton hired for her Foundation at the same time. These emails were purposefully kept secret from the President, whom she'd pushed on Libya.

Libya is fucking ruined - thousands died, many hung in the streets, raped, murdered, burned alive - by western funded 'rebels'. Most of IS recruits came from Libya - as well as much of the weaponry they got via this lying atrocity.

Clap REAL HARD. None of this matters at all to you, does it?

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
37. and it was faulty intelligence.
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:26 PM
May 2016

Blumenthal (on the payroll of the Clinton Foundation) was ginning up his own private business interests in Libya and also using as a source a former CIA officer who was ALSO ginning up business interests there.

This is the most cynical, corrupt, un-American episode since Watergate. And it is likely to explode in just the same manner, within months.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
33. Attack the messenger is all Camp Weathervane has left at this point to fight this
Thu May 5, 2016, 12:35 AM
May 2016

Their last ditch defenses of the bunker are pretty pathetic. Every argument they have put up on this subject has been shot down and shown to be nothing more than flaming bags of manure gas. The FBI report will be out soon anyway.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
35. The public will be reminded...but many may also get angry and defend her.
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:45 AM
May 2016

Last edited Thu May 5, 2016, 06:57 AM - Edit history (2)

I don't think that all the likely alternative reactions were captured by your statement. I wouldn't claim to have given the alternatives much consideration.

But, as a process, once most of the alternatives are on the table for consideration you can contemplate the likelihood of each.

My guess is public reaction is going to be divided among them. That division is very likely to break along existing bias. That's likely to be simple us vs them sort of stuff.

So, we might expect Hillary's many supporters to defend her, we might see some democrats who weren't supporters who see attacks on her as threatening their party/their party's candidate also come to defend her. We might expect some people to finally become disenchanted, and we may certainly expect her opponents use any scandal in the news as evidence that supports their opposition to her.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
38. when they defend her in this matter...
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:30 PM
May 2016

...they expose themselves as defenders of the deep betrayal of President Obama.

They expose themselves as no friend of truth, willing to cover over horrific deceptions

They expose themselves as willing accessories to a fraud perpetrated on the American people.

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