2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIt's cute how Hillary's fans are acting like social media is silly and meaningless.
How much did her campaign spend to get people to post in support of her?
Face it, young people aren't buying into this two party, good cop / bad cop bullshit. They dominate social media and their dissatisfaction with the Democratic party's Republican-liteness is obvious.
Don't blame liberals if your candidate loses. As Skinner said, the amount of progressives who won't vote for her is tiny.
It's all the middle of the road, not so politically inclined, 'politics is bullshit so why bother' types who will be her undoing, should she fall to win them over in the coming months.
Fortunately she will probably be running against Trump. His vulgar awfulness will motivate some people to vote against him. Many, however, know that the real power is with Congress, which thanks to the two party's collusion to maintain a stranglehold on power is gerrymandered beyond hope.
We like to point the finger at Republicans and say how corrupt and all about power and money they are. This election will show how few people on the left are still under the impression that none of that applies to Dems.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)That's obviously representative of ALL Hillary supporters. C'mon, get with the program.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)I find the twitter universe 90% below grade school level thinking. Never had any desire to join it.
WhiteTara
(29,722 posts)all politician learn their chops and it is almost totally ignored by Democrats and has been for many years, which is why the pukes have such a strangle hold on Congress. If social media would teach people to be more engaged, then I'm all for it. But for the most part it seems to be a way to get out inner aggression.
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)People can assert whatever they like but that doesn't make it so.
vintx
(1,748 posts)BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)There is nothing progressive about Hillary Clinton.
mythology
(9,527 posts)Yes a snarky hashtag is meaningless.
But it's also obnoxious how so many people thing that the Democratic party is similar to the Republicans. Perhaps if you got off social media you might realize the parties are more divided than since Reconstruction. It's hard to take your complaint about the vital importance of social media when you get it so wrong on if the parties are similar.
http://www.vox.com/polyarchy/2016/3/24/11298808/american-politics-peak-polarization
vintx
(1,748 posts)But in too many areas (economy, militarization, free trade, etc) they are too much alike.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)vintx
(1,748 posts)Her campaign knows, even if her fans refuse to see the writing on the wall.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)vintx
(1,748 posts)Keep laughing.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)and like to express themselves in abbreviated, 140-char bursts.
This is about as ill-informed as all the "I see lots of Bernie yard signs around but never any Hillary ones. Bernie is so YUUUUGE around here!" we've had to endure over the last dew months at the DU.
vintx
(1,748 posts)You must think her campaign is run by morons
FSogol
(45,525 posts)LexVegas
(6,094 posts)It's why he is getting his ass kicked by HRC.
vintx
(1,748 posts)BTW for the record, I'm a female, mixed race (Latina)
LexVegas
(6,094 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)vintx
(1,748 posts)Is dws/DNC bullshit, and it has been noticed.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)It cost him the primary.
Ace Rothstein
(3,183 posts)And he is behind strictly because of the number of votes both candidates have received.
I voted for Bernie in the Illinois primary but the delusions of some other supporters is getting to an embarrassing level.
vintx
(1,748 posts)Is Joe Biden deluded?
Unwittingly or not, Biden made an even better case than Sanders has for taking his insurgent campaign all the way to the Democratic convention in Philadelphia. If the party is going to run in 2016 on a do much more agendaas opposed to triangulating around the centerthe Vermont senators supporters and like-minded Democrats, including Clintons progressive backers, will have to force the issue. Taking the Sanders insurgency to the convention is the paramount vehicle for placing demands that are ideological and, as Bidens comments suggest, also strategic. Thats one reason why Sanders promised in a statement on April 26 to go to the convention with as many delegates as possible to fight for a progressive party platformdespite the fact that Clintons delegate advantage now all but guarantees that she will win the nomination.
(More at link)
http://www.thenation.com/article/bernies-philadelphia-challenge/
Ace Rothstein
(3,183 posts)vintx
(1,748 posts)Let's see who's actually delusional.
Ace Rothstein
(3,183 posts)Pretty much all the current polling for the remaining states needs to be off by 20-25% for Bernie to win. It just isn't going to happen
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vintx
(1,748 posts)Spam accounts are everywhere and follow everyone.
It'd be interesting to know how many aren't spam accounts though.
Joob
(1,065 posts)If she wins nomination
vintx
(1,748 posts)They aren't acting like they're confident she can win
They're worried, and they should be.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Sure there are a few "lashing out" but most of us aren't.
We are just watching, and what we see isn't pretty. Either one of these candidates could do the job, and do it pretty well. Right now one candidate is in the lead, and mathematically it looks challenging for the other to catch up. Neither should drop out, there is no reason too.
I'm not worried about the democratic primary, either candidate will be fine.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't worried about the GE, and both of our candidates worry me for different reasons. Anyone who thinks that beating Trump will be easy isn't paying attention.
Anyways, don't paint with such a broad brush.
vintx
(1,748 posts)However I contend that most of the Hillary supporters here have said ugly things about us.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Unfortunately many people spend time on attacking each other.
Which doesn't get us anywhere.
Thanks.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)But it is fair to point out that the suggestion that the candidate who is currently 3,000, 000 votes ahead should drop out of the race is nonsensical, regardless of the medium in which the message is delivered.
vintx
(1,748 posts)Hillary's fans should learn how this works.
You throw shade, you will get a reaction.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)#DropOutBernie is far less popular... For a reason.
That's correct, because not all of us think that. That right there is difference, again the brush is too broad.
vintx
(1,748 posts)Which is also why her campaign paid for online support.
Not because fewer of her supporters think he should drop out.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)But that happens.
iandhr
(6,852 posts)... we let are votes do the talking. Hashtags don't win elections.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)You shine out like a shaft of gold when all around is dark.
BootinUp
(47,186 posts)is certainly not overlooked by the Hillary campaign and I don't know why any fan would think differently. Perhaps you are confusing criticism of certain uses as a criticism of the whole.
iandhr
(6,852 posts)It's amazing people don't think that.