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Hillary 2229 Bernie 1453. Hillary is 153 away from the nomination (Original Post) Gomez163 May 2016 OP
And... Else You Are Mad May 2016 #1
keep on dreaming dlwickham May 2016 #9
Actually... Else You Are Mad May 2016 #14
link? and what do you think the deposition will be about? onenote May 2016 #16
The deposition Else You Are Mad May 2016 #18
Indictment fairy realmirage May 2016 #24
Uhh.. Do you Else You Are Mad May 2016 #25
You must think "deposition" is some big word that realmirage May 2016 #28
Actually... Else You Are Mad May 2016 #29
You sound an awful lot like a republican realmirage May 2016 #33
I have been a democrat Else You Are Mad May 2016 #35
For a self proclaimed Democrat realmirage May 2016 #46
No, I am just worried.. Else You Are Mad May 2016 #48
Judicial Watch has been chasing her around for decades... nolawarlock May 2016 #40
I hope I am wrong... Else You Are Mad May 2016 #41
It just gets so old. nolawarlock May 2016 #44
I agree. nt Else You Are Mad May 2016 #45
These smears against the clintons are nothing new realmirage May 2016 #47
The FOIA suit by the right-wing attack dog Judicial Watch annavictorious May 2016 #54
Why do you accuse someone you don't know... Else You Are Mad May 2016 #61
The investigation will be wrapped up by June MFM008 May 2016 #20
The investigation yes... Else You Are Mad May 2016 #21
You are including the Super delegates. They LibDemAlways May 2016 #2
Superdelegates??? What are those??? Gomez163 May 2016 #3
Time Wasters? Octafish May 2016 #10
DO THEY HAZ SOOPERPOWERS????? Gomez163 May 2016 #11
Yes. nt silvershadow May 2016 #60
I don't think they do. TimPlo May 2016 #4
Obviously they will vote for the guy in 3rd place... JaneyVee May 2016 #5
It looks like Bernies latest plan is to have his Followers act even more obnoxious than usual! Walk away May 2016 #13
yelling at children, it wins the White House every time! realmirage May 2016 #30
Sanders's annavictorious May 2016 #57
His wife lost a vote from my neighbor...I was talkin to him at the mailbox last week, eastwestdem May 2016 #59
They are going to vote for Clinton, so they should be included at this point KingFlorez May 2016 #6
No delegates vote until the convention. Codeine May 2016 #7
No delegate vote until the convention???? LET ME WRITE THAT DOWN Gomez163 May 2016 #8
You hold a weird opinion Trenzalore May 2016 #12
Pledged delegates don't vote until the convention, either DavidDvorkin May 2016 #17
Super delegates annavictorious May 2016 #56
Time to ride off into the sunset ... NurseJackie May 2016 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #19
They'll still be here hoping for an indictment Gomez163 May 2016 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #26
Ted Kennedy's revolution against Carter will realmirage May 2016 #32
Lots of Marxist posturing Armstead May 2016 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #34
Yep. Lucinda May 2016 #22
It is almost over. hrmjustin May 2016 #27
I wonder what the Hillary campaign is going to do when they go over the magic number. DCBob May 2016 #36
On June 3, 2008, the last primaries were held in Montana and South Dakota. caquillo May 2016 #49
Yeah. That makes sense. DCBob May 2016 #50
Yea, asking real voters help him erect and finance a genuine grassroots campaign, what a silly guy nolabels May 2016 #58
Super Delegate Additions Are A Diversion At This Moment In Time cantbeserious May 2016 #37
Its part of a large corporate conspiracy to deny Bernie the nomination. Gomez163 May 2016 #38
Thank You For Sharing The Truth - Much Appreciated cantbeserious May 2016 #39
They sure as hell aren't going to stand in Hillary's way as she shovels taxpayer cash their way. GoneFishin May 2016 #53
153 delegates from the nomination, 153 LIGHT YEARS from who I'd vote for. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #42
THANK GOD U TOLD US THAT Gomez163 May 2016 #43
Updated my signiture line. Thanks. revmclaren May 2016 #51
.. frylock May 2016 #52
So, okay. HRC may win the nomination and even the Presidency. mikehiggins May 2016 #55
Aww how cute. Matt_R May 2016 #62

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
18. The deposition
Sat May 7, 2016, 04:59 PM
May 2016

Will be about the freedom of information act requests and why Clinton didn't provide the requested documents -- which is a civil suit -- it has nothing to do with the the criminal FBI investigations.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
25. Uhh.. Do you
Sat May 7, 2016, 06:39 PM
May 2016

Understand the difference between a criminal investigation and a civil law suit...? Because Hillary is involved in both, and the 'indictment fairy' has nothing to do with the forthcoming deposition and any liability right? Because the FBI has nothing to do with what will happen in the civil suit.

 

realmirage

(2,117 posts)
28. You must think "deposition" is some big word that
Sat May 7, 2016, 06:45 PM
May 2016

means she's going to get the death penalty. This INTERVIEW will turn up nothing, as everyone knows. But you don't really think there's any story here either because now you're counting on a civil lawsuit that doesn't mean shit either.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
29. Actually...
Sat May 7, 2016, 06:47 PM
May 2016

I am an attorney, and the FBI "interview" has nothing to do with the deposition. But, thanks for trying.

And, what concerns me is that since the deposition is on the record and the plaintiff is a hardcore right wing organizations, everything she says will be gone over with a 'fine tooth comb' and if they find that there is a misspoke 'is' there will be an impeachment if she is president for perjury like her husband.

 

realmirage

(2,117 posts)
33. You sound an awful lot like a republican
Sat May 7, 2016, 06:53 PM
May 2016

We've been hearing these bullshit schemes for decades, and the clintons are still not in jail for even spitting on the sidewalk, which will be next when the phony email "scandal" fails and fades away with the Vince foster story.

If you're an attorney, I'm surprised you don't see through all this bullshit.

Losing is tough, accept it with some dignity. Hillary is the next pres

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
35. I have been a democrat
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:00 PM
May 2016

Since I was 18. Also, the civil suit doesn't have to do with the subject of the emails or if she violated any criminal laws. Rather, it has to do with the fact that Clinton may or may not have violated the freedom of information act when she failed to provide all the information requested by the plaintiff.

But, don't let the facts get in the way of you trying to call me a Republican to hide the fact you don't know what you are taking about.

 

realmirage

(2,117 posts)
46. For a self proclaimed Democrat
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:24 PM
May 2016

You sure do sound VERY eager for the dem nominee to be convicted of something. I'm not convinced at all that you are a democrat so I'm moving on

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
48. No, I am just worried..
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:28 PM
May 2016

About the candidate I will be voting for. This is a very big negative against her.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
41. I hope I am wrong...
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:15 PM
May 2016

But they actually have something this time. I hope they lose, but it seems like she may have violated the FOIA.

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
44. It just gets so old.
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:19 PM
May 2016

I honestly am beginning to think that 90% of the reason I like her is because of how many smears she's manage to survive. I figure anyone that gets hammered with bogus crap for that long deserves a cake in the shape of the oval office.

 

realmirage

(2,117 posts)
47. These smears against the clintons are nothing new
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:26 PM
May 2016

New accusation same old bogus bullshit. When will republicans realize they'll never beat the clintons?

 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
54. The FOIA suit by the right-wing attack dog Judicial Watch
Sat May 7, 2016, 08:29 PM
May 2016

is against the State Department, not Hillary Clinton. Their complaint is against State.
CNN reported earlier this week that there was a finding of no criminal wrongdoing (or any other kind of "wrongdoing&quot by SOS Clinton in the FBI investigation. You don't follow these things too closely do you?

Oh, and you can tell Jane that the Magical Indictment Fairy won't be knock, knock, knocking on Clinton's door. Maybe that fairy will have better luck with...Casa Blanca....foreign donations...junkets on chartered Delta 767 jets (paid for by 18.000 $27 donations) to pretend meetings with the Pope...or family on the payroll. No wonder Jane wants the FEC to stall their investigation until after June.

If you're progressive, why do you align with the right wing?

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
61. Why do you accuse someone you don't know...
Sun May 8, 2016, 08:54 PM
May 2016

Of being right wing because I merely raise legitimate concerns. And you are referring to the criminal investigation, when I was talking about the civil trial. Do you understand the difference? Or are you intentionally obfuscating the matter at hand?

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
2. You are including the Super delegates. They
Sat May 7, 2016, 03:52 PM
May 2016

don't vote until the convention, or don't you understand how the system works?

 

TimPlo

(443 posts)
4. I don't think they do.
Sat May 7, 2016, 03:55 PM
May 2016

If they do understand then they are just trying to make a false statement that in big picture has zero bearing on anyone's vote. So only reason I can think of is that they some how just need to mislead people with this false number for some type of personal gain.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
13. It looks like Bernies latest plan is to have his Followers act even more obnoxious than usual!
Sat May 7, 2016, 04:07 PM
May 2016

But now they have migrated out of the internet and are showing up at Hillary rallies shouting "Fuck You" and "Bernie" at terrified children. I predict that this will work about as well as everything else he has tried!

I am sure it will impress the Super Delegates. They will certainly crown Bernie King of the Democrats!!!

 

eastwestdem

(1,220 posts)
59. His wife lost a vote from my neighbor...I was talkin to him at the mailbox last week,
Sat May 7, 2016, 08:53 PM
May 2016

and he really disliked how Jane was playing the 'attack dog'. He thought it was very unbecoming of a prospective first lady, and seeing those TV interviews are what made him decide to vote for Hillary.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
7. No delegates vote until the convention.
Sat May 7, 2016, 04:00 PM
May 2016

Then they all vote, state by state, supers and pledged together. Those supers aren't flipping to support the Vermont Independent.

Done. Over. Fin.

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
12. You hold a weird opinion
Sat May 7, 2016, 04:06 PM
May 2016

After Bernie has ran a campaign trashing party insiders for the past 12 months, his only path to victory is to get party insiders to support him.

I'm ok with abolishing super delegates. I think the concept is stupid, but you can't actually believe people Bernie has trashed are going to run into his arms when he has lost the popular vote and pledged delegate metrics.

Even if the indictment fairy comes, the more likely outcome is Joe Biden than Sanders.

DavidDvorkin

(19,475 posts)
17. Pledged delegates don't vote until the convention, either
Sat May 7, 2016, 04:55 PM
May 2016

Last edited Sat May 7, 2016, 05:43 PM - Edit history (1)

That's a meaningless distinction. We know how the pledged delegates will vote, and we know how the superdelegates will vote. They're not going to change their minds now.

 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
56. Super delegates
Sat May 7, 2016, 08:37 PM
May 2016

cast their votes with their state delegations during the first ballot.

There goes your "contested contest"...whatever that might mean in Sanders-speak.

Response to Gomez163 (Original post)

Response to Gomez163 (Reply #23)

 

realmirage

(2,117 posts)
32. Ted Kennedy's revolution against Carter will
Sat May 7, 2016, 06:50 PM
May 2016

be delivered by the FBI first, then Bernie's the next day via UPS next day air. Meanwhile, serious democrats will be saving the country as they always have

Response to Armstead (Reply #31)

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
36. I wonder what the Hillary campaign is going to do when they go over the magic number.
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:08 PM
May 2016

It should happen June 7th, I believe.

caquillo

(521 posts)
49. On June 3, 2008, the last primaries were held in Montana and South Dakota.
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:37 PM
May 2016

The final pledge tally was:

Obama = 1,794 1/2

Clinton = 1,732 1/2

(just a 62-delegate difference)

The magic number then was 2,117 delegates, so neither Obama nor Clinton had enough pledged delegates to clinch the nomination outright, but most of the superdelegates supported him, and their numbers helped cross him over the required amount. That night, all major news organizations announced that Obama had clinched the Democratic nomination and called him 'the presumptive nominee.' Then, four days later, Clinton conceded and vowed to endorse and support Obama.

I believe the same thing will happen after June 7. Clinton will get within spitting distance of the threshold, and her massive superdelegate support will help her clinch the nod right then and there, no matter what the Sanders supporters think. All the news programs will start calling her the presumptive nominee, too.

Not so sure about Sanders, though. The classy thing would be for him to follow Clinton's suit in 2008. Most Democratic also-rans would do the same. But Sanders is a loose cannon and until the past year not a member of the party (i.e. no loyalty), so I have no idea what his end game plan is or if he will bow out gracefully or continue to cause trouble for the Democrats into the convention and beyond.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
58. Yea, asking real voters help him erect and finance a genuine grassroots campaign, what a silly guy
Sat May 7, 2016, 08:47 PM
May 2016

With ideas like that floating around we may never have government supported by the people



 

Gomez163

(2,039 posts)
38. Its part of a large corporate conspiracy to deny Bernie the nomination.
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:11 PM
May 2016

That's all I can say for now. My life may be in danger.

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
55. So, okay. HRC may win the nomination and even the Presidency.
Sat May 7, 2016, 08:35 PM
May 2016

I'll look in on you guys next year and see how you like how it all turns out.

Its sort of moot for me anyway. I'll be 71 in September and the odds are this is my last Presidential election. My hope is that Her Highness will not bargain away Social Security or Medicare while my wife and I are still alive. I guess there is no hope that the TPP will not be signed. Also hope that nobody finds a way to funnel more taxpayer money to Goldman-Sachs and that no more Honduras poets will be assassinated by the government Her Highness shored up.

I also hope that nobody decides to use cluster bombs in the first term, and that we don't have 10,000 troops in Libya, another 10,000 in Syria and maybe 50,000 in Iraq.

It'd be nice if Flint wasn't forgotten in the first hundred days and that the costs of fracking isn't going to be subsidized by the Federal Government.

There's plenty to look forward to because, after all, it's Her turn.

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