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NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
Mon May 9, 2016, 03:53 PM May 2016

Deception Experts: Guccifer Telling Truth About Hacking Clinton’s Email Server

"When Romanian hacker Marcel Lehel Lazar, also known as Guccifer, told NBC News senior investigative correspondent Cynthia McFadden that he had gained access to Hillary Clinton’s private email server, viewers worldwide were left to wonder whether his claim was true. Our analysis of Guccifer’s behavior in the interview left little doubt in our minds that—unfortunately—it was.

Let us be clear that in this case, the behavior available for analysis is quite minimal. Having said that, based on the lack of deceptive indicators exhibited by Guccifer in response to McFadden’s questions, we have concluded with a high degree of confidence that Guccifer was very likely successful in penetrating Clinton’s email server, as he claimed. What remains unclear, however, is exactly what information resident in the server might have been compromised.

Guccifer told McFadden that Clinton had lied when she claimed her email server was absolutely safe—he stated categorically, “It’s not safe at all.” While we have concluded that that statement is likely truthful, and that Guccifer likely ascertained that himself, what we are unable to assess is whether or not he was able to access any classified information on the server. It’s equally unclear whether Guccifer was capable of identifying classified information, vs. unclassified information."

http://lawnewz.com/columnists/behavior-experts-guccifer-telling-truth-about-hacking-clintons-email-server/

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Deception Experts: Guccifer Telling Truth About Hacking Clinton’s Email Server (Original Post) NWCorona May 2016 OP
Are they the same "experts" Bill O Rielly uses? JoePhilly May 2016 #1
At least you changed up your standard response. NWCorona May 2016 #2
The OP content wasn't suggesting the near term ... JoePhilly May 2016 #7
Forensic Body Language Experts OilemFirchen May 2016 #4
"This nonsense is hilarious." dchill May 2016 #6
I'm looking forward to what the numerologists have to say. JoePhilly May 2016 #9
I'm pretty sure that phrenology will make a comeback COLGATE4 May 2016 #12
Please. Go read a book. Take a long walk. This obsession isn't good for you. randome May 2016 #3
Thanks for the suggestion and concern. NWCorona May 2016 #5
You mean the obsession to free our government of the Big Money FAt Cat rhett o rick May 2016 #20
BENGHAZI! Happyhippychick May 2016 #8
I don't understand why you or anyone would use this as a completely thoughtless reply ..... polly7 May 2016 #11
You sound concerned Happyhippychick May 2016 #13
I am. polly7 May 2016 #15
Yes, empathy and compassion. Happyhippychick May 2016 #17
You should get some. nt. polly7 May 2016 #18
Good suggestion Happyhippychick May 2016 #19
A sociopath's Interpersonal calculus centers on how to manipulate and outmaneuver people in life. Dragonfli May 2016 #37
Marvelous article. Starts off suggesting that Guccifer's claims COLGATE4 May 2016 #10
Yep. 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #27
If this hacker, who was caught, was able to gain access to the server, glowing May 2016 #14
Definitely! NWCorona May 2016 #16
I have no doubt the Chinese were in there within months of it's use Bob41213 May 2016 #30
One thing that came out was that once in China Hillary left her BlackBerry NWCorona May 2016 #31
naw, this was just some guy who got bored and lucky when not driving taxis and tractors MisterP May 2016 #22
Yup! that is even worse for Clinton as we are more concerned about professionals NWCorona May 2016 #32
Do hackers ever admit to not being able to access a server? LonePirate May 2016 #21
Depends upon what was on there on March 12, 2013. leveymg May 2016 #23
Expert identified!! Adrahil May 2016 #24
Good one! NWCorona May 2016 #25
"Deception Experts" ... LOL 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #26
GOP in overdrive on the internet to destroy Hillary.. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #28
Then why is Hillary reportedly working with the GOP to stop trump? NWCorona May 2016 #29
I'm waiting until this guy gives the final verdict: lovemydog May 2016 #33
Anyone who says a stand-alone server is secure is a fucking moron! nt TheBlackAdder May 2016 #34
True. lovemydog May 2016 #35
Especially a homebrewed server. Most people don't realize that we are talking NWCorona May 2016 #36

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
2. At least you changed up your standard response.
Mon May 9, 2016, 03:57 PM
May 2016

Not sure but they are named so you can research if you like.

I'm not sure if it's true but it's definitely not nonsense.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
7. The OP content wasn't suggesting the near term ...
Mon May 9, 2016, 04:09 PM
May 2016

... appearance of the indictment fairy.

Personally, I enjoyed the seeing the testimony of body languague experts being introduced into evidence.

I can't wait to hear what the numerologists come up with.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
12. I'm pretty sure that phrenology will make a comeback
Mon May 9, 2016, 04:12 PM
May 2016

as the latest in the Grand Hillary E-Mail Scandal.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
3. Please. Go read a book. Take a long walk. This obsession isn't good for you.
Mon May 9, 2016, 04:02 PM
May 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Where do uncaptured mouse clicks go?[/center][/font][hr]

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
5. Thanks for the suggestion and concern.
Mon May 9, 2016, 04:06 PM
May 2016

I'm reading Ghetto Brother, Warrior to Peacemaker at the moment. Very good!

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
20. You mean the obsession to free our government of the Big Money FAt Cat
Mon May 9, 2016, 04:19 PM
May 2016

control that some feel so comfortable embracing? Not on your life.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
11. I don't understand why you or anyone would use this as a completely thoughtless reply .....
Mon May 9, 2016, 04:11 PM
May 2016

to anything.

People died.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
15. I am.
Mon May 9, 2016, 04:14 PM
May 2016

I think it's beyond thoughtless, and demeaning to those who died and who shouldn't be used as little derailing tactics on a message board. It's called having empathy and compassion.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
37. A sociopath's Interpersonal calculus centers on how to manipulate and outmaneuver people in life.
Mon May 9, 2016, 07:18 PM
May 2016

Welcome to a world of ruthless cost-benefit analysis

[font size="5"; color=" 8B0000"][center] Confessions of a Sociopath [/font][/center]

I have never killed anyone, but I have certainly wanted to. I may have a disorder, but I am not crazy. In a world filled with gloomy, mediocre nothings populating a go-nowhere rat race, people are attracted to my exceptionalism like moths to a flame. This is my story....

Snip......

[font size="3"; color=" 8B0000"]I Am a Sociopath [/font]

Remorse is alien to me. I have a penchant for deceit. I am generally free of entangling and irrational emotions. I am strategic and canny, intelligent and confident, but I also struggle to react appropriately to other people's confusing and emotion-driven social cues.

I was not a victim of child abuse, and I am not a murderer or a criminal. I have never skulked behind prison walls; I prefer mine to be covered in ivy. I am an accomplished attorney and law professor, a well-respected young academic who regularly writes for law journals and advances legal theories. I donate 10 percent of my income to charity and teach Sunday school for the Mormon Church......

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
10. Marvelous article. Starts off suggesting that Guccifer's claims
Mon May 9, 2016, 04:10 PM
May 2016

are probably true - and then rapidly proceeds to walk it back by the end. No, we really can't say, the behavior available for analysis is quite limited, we don't know what information was compromised, Guccifer probably couldn't tell was was classified anyway. Just another piece of bullshit by an ex CIA doofus who's peddling his brand-new corporation telling companies who pay him who's telling the truth. No more reliable (and probably much less) than a polygraph.

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
14. If this hacker, who was caught, was able to gain access to the server,
Mon May 9, 2016, 04:13 PM
May 2016

it's all but guaranteed that other countries gained access to her server/ e-mails, etc.

Bob41213

(491 posts)
30. I have no doubt the Chinese were in there within months of it's use
Mon May 9, 2016, 04:56 PM
May 2016

It's fairly well established she didn't use encryption for the first few months. She traveled in China in those few months. The Chinese would have seen her using the server then got in. No real ifs and or buts. And then they were in probably for the entire 4 months. Probably was so easy it looked like a trap.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
31. One thing that came out was that once in China Hillary left her BlackBerry
Mon May 9, 2016, 05:03 PM
May 2016

The car and asked her aide to retrieve it. There's many problems with that but the biggest is that the phone connects to commercial cell towers. Did I say they were in China?

President Obama's BlackBerry never leaves it's network.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
22. naw, this was just some guy who got bored and lucky when not driving taxis and tractors
Mon May 9, 2016, 04:24 PM
May 2016

a whole COUNTRY couldn't possibly realize that there's potential intelligence online! don't be silly!

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
32. Yup! that is even worse for Clinton as we are more concerned about professionals
Mon May 9, 2016, 05:06 PM
May 2016

So if a lucky taxi driver can then that's not good!

LonePirate

(13,431 posts)
21. Do hackers ever admit to not being able to access a server?
Mon May 9, 2016, 04:23 PM
May 2016

Hackers seem to boast as much as Trump does. For instance, did anything significant result from Anonymous going after ISIL/ISIS?

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
23. Depends upon what was on there on March 12, 2013.
Mon May 9, 2016, 04:26 PM
May 2016

According to his indictment, that's the day he gained access to Blumenthal's AOL email account.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
29. Then why is Hillary reportedly working with the GOP to stop trump?
Mon May 9, 2016, 04:40 PM
May 2016

Hillary hate is really but it's not that simple.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
36. Especially a homebrewed server. Most people don't realize that we are talking
Mon May 9, 2016, 05:18 PM
May 2016

at least two servers. It wasn't until Hillary contracted with that Denver based server farm that Hillary got a real but still off the self server. The FBI has all of them.

Did I mention that the Clinton foundation's emails are on them as well as with her aides?

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