Please Suspend Now, Bernie!

[MineralMan]

Take your current delegates and the ones you will get to the convention, but suspend your campaign. Don't drop out. Just suspend. It's time to recognize the reality of what will happen and let the general election campaign begin. The GOP has its nominee. The Democratic Party will have one as soon as you suspend.

It's time to put the presidential election in November on the front burner, for the good of the party you recently joined.

Be a mensch, Bernie. Do what's best for the country and let the battle between the two nominees begin. Why delay that at this point.

Note: My opinion. Yours might differ.

[JaneyVee]

1. Bernie is looking for a coronation.

[merrily]

3. NOT AT ALL, but he stopped one.

[JaneyVee]

7. No he didnt.

[Logical]

23. Lol, that post kicked your ass! Nt

[boston bean]

54. I don't think so. How you can think that way from a 3 word response is AMAZING!!!!

The self importance and the need to think you've kicked someone's ass is laughable and sad all at the same time.

[Baobab]

105. Hillary should suspend, she is under too large a cloud

Her dishonesty makes her unfit to lead this nation.
If she has not been disbarred already, she should be.

[boston bean]

136. Thanks for proving the OP premise true.

[JDPriestly]

231. I registered voters on a California college campus today.

The kids are really excited to be able to vote for Bernie.

Settle down. If Hillary is really that far ahead, you will have your moment.

In the meantime, let us vote out here in Oregon and California.

This is a democracy. Let us vote. Let us express our political will.

Just because the South and the Midwest and the East have voted does not mean that we shouldn't have our right to vote.

Really. Why the impatience? Because Hillary lost by such a large margin tonight?

[boston bean]

237. What are you talking about when you say this:

"If Hillary is really that far ahead"?

[angrychair]

48. So you agree it's a coronation?

I thought it was an election.

[boston bean]

59. duh, maybe that was the point made. jessum chrissum!

[merrily]

68. sure did.

[LaydeeBug]

88. so when he loses at the convention, is he the jester or the fool? nt

[merrily]

94. If Democrats lose the general, who will be the real fools?

[LiberalFighter]

115. Are you advocating voting against the Democratic nominee for President?

[merrily]

125. No nominee yet and if you consider a question advocacy, that's a problem on your part.

[Baobab]

122. You mean Republicans

Since Hillary shares THEIR values, not ours.

She's said it, blame her. But she isn't getting my vote, not after that and the rest.

She's "a disaster in the making".

I fear for our country.

Militarism is a suicidal death cult. Like Om Shinrikyo or Al Qaueda.

Remember Dr. Strangelove? Like that.

(No, Dr. Strangelove was not Henry Kissinger, that part was (brilliantly) played by Peter Sellers.)

[sasmath]

153. She does not share Republican values.

[JDPriestly]

232. She shares Republican values. She is not an FDR Democrat.

She and Bill shifted our Democratic Party to the right.

We want our Democratic Party that represented working people's interests and not those of corporations back.

[Go Vols]

159. There Is a Moderate Republican in This Race, But She’s Running as a Democrat

Who is the real Democrat — Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton?

from 1932-1976, the Democratic Party as a whole was far more progressive. The issues and approaches advocated today by Bernie Sanders were considered mainstream Democratic ideas by Franklin D. Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, and Lyndon Johnson, and even many moderate Republicans. It was common to support strict financial regulation, liberal immigration, social services for the poor, and progressive tax policies.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tony-brasunas/there-is-a-moderate-republican-in-this-race_b_9704194.html

[Demsrule86]

146. Bernie supporters

Who will be despised forever more just as greens are after they gave the election to Bush...how many Greens have had success in the intervening years...she loses the general...you and Bernie are done.

[PufPuf23]

176. That is an ugly myth that Nader lost the 2000 election.

To start with we know that Gore would have won FLA and the election if protocols had been followed rather than muffed by Gore and corrupted by the USSC.

[Fawke Em]

178. It's not our fault that (thus far) the Democrats are coronating the weaker candidate.

[merrily]

209. Conflating Bernie with his supporters and a primary challenge with a third party general run?

Brilliant!

Falsifying excuses in advance? If she is the nominee and she loses the general, it will be her fault and the fault of those who voted for her in the primary, not the fault of those who have been warning for two years or more that she would be a risk in the general. Good thing Trump is such a crappy candidate.

In 2008, Hillary continued in the primary well beyond any chance she had of winning, abnd well after McCain had started his general campaign, so you can keep your double standards, too.

Besides, Hillary, her campaign and her surrogates and supporters have already done all they can to make us despised, much as they did in 2008 with "Obama boys." So, your threat is toothless.


ETA: And, thank heaven, most Americans are not as hate-filled as some DUers.

[Demsrule86]

216. That is not really true

Hillary did not take it to the convention as Bernie has threatened nor did she attack Obama at the end or the Democratic party. She had more reason than Bernie to be bitter as Florida and Michigan delegates were not seated- both states she won...and she had the popular vote. She conceded and endorsed. Bernie has not had a shot since New York for sure...personally, I think before that. But whatever. Now we need to defeat Trump and Bernie is hindering that effort. I don't know why? Bitterness, revenge...trying to get back at Democrats or Hillary? In any case, the zombie primary serves no purpose.

[merrily]

224. Sanders has not taken it to the Convention yet, but Hillary made a deal with Obama at the end of the

primary. That's the only purpose her continuing served--her personal ambition to put herself in a better place to run for President again eight years after 2008. Bernie, on the other hand, is fighting to move the Party toward traditional Democratic principles, not because he wants to prepare for another run eight years from now. Whether Bernie will also make a deal re: the party platform (or whatever he feels serves his goals) remains to be seen. I imagine a lot of that will depend on Hillary, much as the Clintons' backing Obama after the primary ended depended on what Obama was willing to agree to.

So, no, the two are not the same. Bernie has no personal deal to cut; Hillary did. Bernie is fighting against Wall Street, money in politics buying laws, etc. Hillary wasn't. But they are not as totally dissimilar as your post suggests, either.

[JDPriestly]

233. Could you please let us Californians vote?

We haven't had our turn yet.

It's really nasty of Hillary supporters to try to disenfranchise us insofar as our primary is concerned.

Sorry we are so late, but we want to vote, and we want to vote for Bernie.

Hillary supporters should just settle down and be fair to those of us in California, Oregon, etc. who want to vote for Bernie.

Honestly. The impatience and lack of respect for the rights of us out here is disgusting.

[yuiyoshida]

255. I voted yesterday (California)

I was not persuaded to vote against my conscience, nor influenced by anyone on this website.

[PCPrincess]

261. Awesome!

High-Five! I can't wait. I'm going to hold out and go vote at the polling place, even though I could vote by mail. I always look forward to voting day and have gone each year with my son for the last four years after he turned 18. We are both voting for Bernie ; )

[yuiyoshida]

266. awesome!

by the way, Love your HAMTARO image!

[Warren DeMontague]

242. A rant like that deserves its own hat.

[hellofromreddit]

196. Nice to see you coming around.

[Logical]

22. Lol, +1000

[CoffeeCat]

85. Nice! Well played. (nt)

[merrily]

99. .

[yeoman6987]

64. Isn't Bernie going to win WV and NE today?

I don't think he needs to suspend yet. The states left are pretty good for him.

[MineralMan]

93. We'll know the results from WV this evening.

As for Nebraska, it held its caucuses on March 5, and it's delegates have already been allocated. Today's primary won't affect that allocation and is more about other offices that will be on the November ballot. Bernie got 15 pledged delegates in NE, and Hillary got 10.

West Virginia is likely to be fairly close in its results. It has just 29 pledged delegates to send to the convention. If it turns out to be close and Bernie wins by a few percentage points, he'll get less than a handful of pledged delegates more than Hillary. Bottom line: WV will not make any substantial difference in the delegate count.

But, we'll see the election returns tonight or tomorrow morning and know for sure.

[merrily]

2. Will you be doing one of these imaginary messages to Bernie every couple of weeks?

[MineralMan]

4. I will be doing as I think best, thanks.

If that means more open requests to Bernie Sanders, then yes, I probably will.

You don't have to see any of them, though. It's your choice. But, I will not desist just to make you happy.

[Sheepshank]

63. Glad you said it the way to did. You always seem kinder than necessary.

Standing up to bullying, is a good thing.

Attempting to shut down opinions, is not.

[Bradical79]

133. I'm just causing trouble :-(

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I shouldn't have said what I said. Sorry folks.

[frylock]

144. I guess when you have nothing else going on in your life..

trolling Sanders supporters will have to suffice.

[Sheepshank]

161. yet on the BS Group

they were coordinating and stacking juries. That post got hidden

And just here, post #5 http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1933030

not going to play the oneupsmanship with you. There really is no room for griping from the Bernie supporters. All we can do is be responsible for ourselves. Mineral Man does that very well.

[Bradical79]

166. I'm sorry

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I should know better than to post in the primary forums when I'm in pain and in a rotten mood. I'm just being nasty and shit stirring at this point.

[Sheepshank]

171. well that's the problem when anyone portrays anecdotal evidence...

it scews the reality.

did you previously miss this one left by a BS'er? PS Read at your own peril. Not for sensitive people...it's pretty disgusting I don't know what it would take to "balance" things out.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=30492

On second thought I take that big FUCK YOU back. I wouldn't fuck you even with someone else's dog's cock. You have proven yourself to be utterly and irretrievably morally repugnant. You have stooped to depths that are lower than whale shit in the fucking Marianas trench. There's a lot of pressure down there for anyone with a shred of fucking decency but once your balls are shriveled to the obvious pinhead size it affects the brain and there's little left than to attempt to smear the shit on the walls when it didn't stick whilst you were flinging it.

[Go Vols]

179. lol

He thinks hes "tweaking" Bernie supporters.I think most just ignore him, as I do people like that IRL.

[silvershadow]

229. Tweak away, doesn't bother me. I respect MM for many of his views, tho on this

race, we part ways. Doesn't tweak me, but I have thought of making a similar post. I actually have made several "Drop out, Hillary" posts over the last many months- ever since the wheels fell of the bus at the first of the year. It was clear to me even before then that she was a fatally flawed candidate. To each their own, though. I guess we continue on through these last several primaries and on to convention.

[merrily]

69. Oh, drama. I did not ask you to desist, nor does my happiness depend upon what you post.

Which is fortunate for me!

[floriduck]

45. Why is the poster so concerned about letting democracy play out?

Bernie made a promise to his supporters that he would be in this through the convention. Why is that so hard for people to accept. This has nothing to do with 2008. Bernie is his own man and is doing what he thinks is in the best interest to those who support and fund his campaign.

This is just the latest lame attempt to try to irritate Bernie's supporters. We've not seen the last of them but they are equally similar to pissing up a rope.

[merrily]

72. Yep. This is pot stirring. MM does not expect Bernie to see this. It's silly.

[Go Vols]

181. "Bernie made a promise to his supporters that he would be in this through the convention."

Promises don't mean much to the other side.

[MineralMan]

11. Thank you for your informative reply.

And for the kick.

[HumanityExperiment]

13. kick...

posterior kickin' that's what I'm good for!

[Bobbie Jo]

67. Indeed.

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[MineralMan]

75. Just FYI, I do not alert on replies to my posts. Ever.

Just in case you were wondering. I prefer to let insults stand for all to see.

[MADem]

6. There will come a point in time where he'll be doing nothing but providing Trump with video

sound bites.

He went from not caring about those damn emails to bashing, trashing, and providing campaign strategy for Trump.

I'll bet he doesn't do it--he's got blinders on. He really thinks playing Don Quixote is "cool" at this point. He doesn't understand that he'll have a tough time getting any cooperation out of his colleagues if he keeps this up for too much longer.

When he does concede, if he doesn't put equal effort into lifting up our standard bearer as he did trashing her, he'll find himself alone in the wilderness.

[Exilednight]

41. apparently you never read Don Quixote.

[7wo7rees]

74. +1000K nt

[Voice for Peace]

103. "and I know, if I'll only be true to that glorious quest

That my heart will lie peaceful and calm
When I'm laid to my rest"

[MADem]

245. That was before DQ regained his sanity, but never mind that detail... nt

[Voice for Peace]

246. Opinions re sanity are subjective, for sure

[MADem]

247. Well, not in the case of DQ--it's an essential element of the story that

Cervantes crafted.

[Voice for Peace]

259. ,

I read it as morality tale on the subjectivity of madness.

[MADem]

244. I have (in the original Spanish, in fact)--it's a story of mental illness, actually.

The word "quixotic" has entered our lexicon for a reason.

I think you might want to pick up the book again.


All your backslapping plus-oners apparently haven't read it lately, either.

[Exilednight]

248. in your post you accuse Bernie of being uncivil, yet the whole book is

About a man who wants to bring civility back to the world.

Your logic is mind boggling.

[MADem]

249. No, thats not accurate.

I don't "accuse" anyone of anything. I say--and this is fact--that Sanders, by repeatedly attacking Clinton, is providing Trump with fodder. That's not a matter for dispute--Trump is already using that line of attack. Google is your friend.

Second, not that it matters since you missed the point of the book entirely, evidently-- but Quixote was not about CIVILITY -- he was all about "chivalry" of the romantic variety -- an entirely different (and one might argue, for this age, anyway, sexist) construct. Just because the words share some of the same letters doesn't mean they have anything to do with one another. Civility and chivalry are not the same thing.

So, yes, "mind boggling" indeed. Nice of you to try and make it about ME, though. Pity so much of what you flung splashed back on yourself.

smh.

[Exilednight]

250. look up the origin of the word chivalry, you might be surprised to find it's another wotd

For a type of civility - which is what the book is really about. It was just candy coated in Romanticism for the masses to enjoy.

Have a good day, Mad.

[MADem]

253. No, it comes from the French, for horses, horsemen, e.g. KNIGHTS.

It's nothing to do with "civility" which deals with citizens, governance, and things of that nature.

chiv·al·ry
Origin

Middle English: from Old French chevalerie, from medieval Latin caballerius, from late Latin caballarius ‘horseman’ (see chevalier).

It has nothing to do with civility, which comes from the latin.

ci·vil·i·ty
Origin

late Middle English: from Old French civilite, from Latin civilitas, from civilis ‘relating to citizens’ (see civil). In early use the term denoted the state of being a citizen and hence good citizenship or orderly behavior. The sense ‘politeness’ arose in the mid 16th century.

Google the word origins of these terms, and you'll see.

[Logical]

50. Lol, ok! Nt

[berni_mccoy]

8. Hillary needs to resign her candidacy and walk into the shadows of disgrace.

[Voice for Peace]

107. +++

that would be best.

[peace13]

251. ....for the entire planet.

[Ferd Berfel]

264. Yep!

[NCTraveler]

9. They are holding out hope for a health issue.

Wasn't pretty when Clinton did it, isn't pretty now. Desperation rarely looks good. Not sure I've ever seen political desperation like we are seeing from Sanders, Weaver, and their supporters.

[TheCowsCameHome]

10. What does it matter to you?

You've picked your favorite, its obvious you want Hillary, so why should you worry about what he or his supporters do?

[MineralMan]

16. Well, see, I want a Democrat in the White House.

Right now, the media has focused almost entirely on the party that has an actual presumptive nominee. We need to get equal time in the news focus. It's a long time until the convention, and Trump is getting almost all of the coverage right now. That helps him and hurts us.

That's why it matters to me. Your opinion might differ, though. I've written my opinion.

[TheCowsCameHome]

25. Hillary will win in a cake walk.

Bernie supporters are irrelevant.

Trump has no chance against her.

Stop fretting.

[Fawke Em]

183. She's already losing to him in a couple of swing states.

Not sure I believe your premise.

[TheCowsCameHome]

202. Well, to hear the other side tell it,

she doesn't need us, or our votes.

[Bluenorthwest]

39. And how does tampering interest in ongoing primary elections serve that end?

Right now my State has ballots out, that means volunteers are phoning and canvassing to get ballots returned. This benefits not only Bernie and Hillary but all of the down ticket Democrats running for offices ranging from US Senate to city council. Depressed interest and dampened excitement does not serve any of those candidates.
Among the other States still in process is CA, the most populous State and one that we certainly need in November to be securely Democratic. Right now in CA Democratic volunteers are working for Hillary and for Bernie and for all of the down ticket Democrats, phoning and canvassing, attempting to build up interest and excitement not only for June but for November. Not only for the WH but for the State House and the Congress, for city halls and boards of supervisors.

I can not support efforts which run counter to the objectives and current efforts of so many dedicated Democratic activists. I want everyone in this country to have the chance to vote. Even places like NY where so few are interested in voting. I want the West Coat to turnout and show others what we need to do in November.

Of course, I will be happy to forward your OP to the folks in CA who are working so hard for Hillary there. They will be thrilled, I'm sure, to hear that you are calling off their election and claiming their efforts are for nothing.

[mountain grammy]

71. +1000

[Bluenorthwest]

79. The OP habitually postures on DU as being all about GOTV, but currently the OP is working to

do the opposite. To me, if candidates and Party are asking for time and money those who suggest they do not need what they are asking for are not supporting the candidates. Not Hilary, not Bernie and not the down ticket Democrats, all of whom need turnout, high voter interest and retention of that interest until November. Whatever there is to win is won in November. Ask Mitt. Ask Al Gore.

[mountain grammy]

116. Very discouraging to the many young people drawn to this campaign

by a candidate who is not a war hawk. A sane foreign policy would be a good start for a future to believe in, or any future for that matter.

[MineralMan]

101. I'm pretty sure you have already received your ballot, and

have probably already submitted it. Both candidates' names will appear on every primary ballot for the remaining primaries. Delegates will be allocated, whether Bernie suspends his campaign or not. Nobody will be unable to vote for the candidate they prefer.

California's ballots have already been printed and some are already voting early there. Nobody's vote is affected if Bernie suspends his campaign, nor will any delegates allocated not go to the convention.

I'm not calling for suppression of anyone's primary vote at all. But, you knew that.

[nadinbrzezinski]

234. Actually this would depress turnout

and for somebody who pretends to care for GOTV this is odd. Well, actually not really. It is your MO.

[PCPrincess]

262. I'm Not Sure Your Assumption Is Correct

In the event that anyone that is registered as Non-Affiliated, but wants to vote for a Democrat candidate, unless they have previously asked for a 'cross-over' ballot (Deadline May 23rd), then showing up at the polls is the thing to do. Once at the polling place, a person who wants to vote for a Democrat, who is not registered as a Democrat will ask for a cross-over ballot in person. I do believe many people will wait until voting day to ensure their vote is properly counted.

[7wo7rees]

90. Take it up with the "Media" then, dear Sir.

Quit your attacks on Bernie supporters and take it up with those responsible.

[angrychair]

131. All this concern

Everyone beats the WH drum while the teapublicans have kicked our ass everywhere else.

While the rest of the country is so deep in a hole we may not see daylight for decades, the rest of you are caught staring at the sun. To date:

We have lost 11 governorships, 13 U.S. Senate seats, 69 House seats, and 913 state legislative seats and 30 state legislative chambers

So keep staring at the Sun while the rest of the country continues to be covered in the great darkness that is teapublican public policy.




FYI:
I don't care what your candidate may or may not do. This is on the DNC policies and feckless Democratic and Democratic-leaning Independent voters. Given the number of seats we have lost, who is president doesn't mean shit if we don't start caring about state legislatures and Congress. While you may care, the occasional, the disengaged, feckless and the straight ticket voter, very obviously, does not.
Noticed I said "straight-ticket" voters? Just because someone has a &quot D)" after their name doesn't mean they support liberal progressive and Democratic ideals. Sometimes the best person for the job has an (I) after their name (just ask the citizens of Maine and Vermont).

[RichVRichV]

226. Hate to break this to you, Trump was getting most of the attention before he was the nominee.

It has been well documented. This is the MSM's fault, not Bernie's or his supporters. Take your complaints up with them.


The very fact that you think Bernie is why Hillary isn't getting attention from the MSM is laughable on it's premise. He sure isn't stealing the spotlight from her.

[bigwillq]

12. No need for anyone to suspend until there is an official nominee

Once someone officially clinches, then the others can suspend.

[CrowCityDem]

32. As Bernie would tell you...

SD's can change their mind at any point, so no one can actually 'clinch' until the votes are counted on the convention floor. Giving Trump that kind of head start would be an abdication of responsibility.

[bigwillq]

37. I don't think the SDs will change

But still no need to suspend until a nominee becomes official. These are the rules. You play until someone officially wins.

[RichVRichV]

227. What head start?

If there was actual journalism in this country the Democratic primary would be getting all of the attention right now because it is the only one with a competitive race going on. There is nothing to report on the Republican side at the moment. Look at any primary where an Incumbent president was running, the other side always got the attention as it had a competitive race to report on. The Trump media sensation is purely a creation of the media, it has no basis in which race is competitive. Us ending our nomination process will have no effect on what the media is doing because what they are doing is not based on journalism or bringing us news.

[ibegurpard]

14. you could try sending your essays directly to him

You might succeed in boring him out of the race..

[MineralMan]

20. Or, I could post an open request on DU.

As I did.

[Bluenorthwest]

46. Get your candidate to stop asking for volunteers in the States still in process. She's still

saying she 'needs' money and time and energy and for people to actually vote for her. You claim otherwise.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

129. So your actual target audience is the members of DU.

Since the likelihood that Bernie Sanders or any of his senior staff read DU is vanishingly tiny - they are pretty busy right now - your message is clearly not directed at him but at us. And you know very well that many DU members are Sanders supporters. So - are you just stirring the pot, trying to get attention, trying to sow FUD, or what?

They see me trollin,' they hatin,'
Patrollin,' try to catch me deridin' Bernie...

[Fawke Em]

185. LMAO!

They see me trollin,' they hatin,'
Patrollin,' try to catch me deridin' Bernie...

Weird Al Worthy!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

213. One of Weird Al's best ever.

[Autumn]

15. Please Suspend Now, MineralMan. My opinion is vastly different, I think Hillary should drop out.

[dchill]

203. +1,000,001

[tonedevil]

17. This is another joke post...

like the crap post about Senator Sanders having his hand on a woman's ass, right?

[kstewart33]

31. The post is the best advice I've read this morning about Bernie.

All that matters now is the general election.

[tonedevil]

43. I'm pretty sure...

MineralMan has pivoted to pure comedy since I read the ass post. This post in particular can't be serious so I am thinking it's another joke.

[kstewart33]

51. Jokes aren't MMan's forte.

However, he's pretty good at reasoned analysis.

[Autumn]

76. It became a joke after the fact.

That was a really disgusting piece of work.

[LexVegas]

18. Too much $$ yet to be made for Tad and Jeff. nt

[Buzz Clik]

26. They need to shake the very dime from their debt-ridden supporters.

[Warren Stupidity]

145. As a sensible centrist I agree that we should restrict

campaign donations to the very rich. They can afford these sort of extravagances, and we wouldhave a more consistent message from our candidates if all their funding were from the wealthy.

Yet another reason why I am a sensible centrist for Clinton.

[Buzz Clik]

147. Sensible? Centrist? Did that start today?

[Warren Stupidity]

152. No I've been a sensible centrist for quite a while.

It is why I am a strong supporter of Clinton. She embodies sensible centrism to its core.

[PCPrincess]

263. Your Reply Should Ensure Another Ten Trump Votes

The OP is worried about a democratic primary hurting his chosen candidate, yet, Hillary supporters here on DU are Trumps best friend. You do realize that voters are human beings and that human beings are emotional animals, right? You must be overly optimistic about Hillary's chances to win the primary to not be concerned about being so vile and disrespectful towards your fellow countrymen/women.

[Buzz Clik]

265. Only ten? Are you sure?

[frylock]

150. TDS + WDS

[pinebox]

19. Please step down Hillary

We don't need a candidate under an FBI investigation & latest polls show Trump within striking distance of you. Only Bernie blows the GOP away.

[Logical]

21. Its the ass grab poster, no thanks! Nt

[TheCowsCameHome]

30. OMG - Berne grabbed some tush!!!!!!

Ow! Ow! Ow!

[Buzz Clik]

24. Let's keep Bernie stringing along until a lot more deadlines pass...

... making it nearly impossible for him to be on the ballot as a third party candidate.

July sounds good.

[TheCowsCameHome]

29. Ever heard of write-in voting?

Or have you found a way to prevent that, too?

[Buzz Clik]

35. So grumpy for this time of day. Anyway...

... yes, I've heard of it.

Thanks for asking.

[TheCowsCameHome]

47. You actually think Sanders would go third party?

I mean... You don't believe that, do you?

[Buzz Clik]

55. I don't recall taking a position one way or another. Perhaps you can refresh my memory.

Glad to see your mood has improved ... to the point of being manic. Better than angry, I guess.

[TheCowsCameHome]

138. Arrrgh! Back to Camp Bansalot with ye.

You're the one that mentioned the chance third-party.

[Buzz Clik]

139. Just because something I posted reminds you of something...

.... doesn't mean that's what I said.

I didn't say Sanders was running as a third party candidate. Or maybe you can find where I did.

[TheCowsCameHome]

163. ...says the person that posted #24 in this thread.

You seem to suggest it is one of his options.

But he would never do it. So forget it.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

27. He's doing what's best for the country by not dropping out or suspending.

Note: The party is not the country.

[Silver_Witch]

42. +1000

[Buzz Clik]

140. Yep. He's taking his supporters last pennies and giving them to the 1%ers who run his campaign...

... and sell him advertising time, and rent stadiums to him, ...

Yep. He's doing it all for the good of the country.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

141. I'll let you know when I'm down to my last penney.

Of course, Hillary isn't spending any money on advertising or stadiums.

[Buzz Clik]

142. Careful when talking about your relative affluence. You'll be shunned by those you think are friends

They might start screaming at you:

[tonedevil]

193. Since I was not singled out by...

the assassinated Honduran Activist, Berta Cáceres, as bearing significant responsibility for the coup in that country I doubt those activists are coming after me.

[Demsrule86]

151. He is showing that that he is in it for one reason

His ego. He is acting in a spoiled and spiteful way. It would not benefit this country to have President Trump.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

170. Of course, Hillary is completely egoless and indifferent to losing.

But, she's no longer "dead broke" and admits to her "mistakes" (sort of).

And, she's still unfit to hold public office.

[Demsrule86]

218. If you were breathing in 2008, you know that is not true

She has an ego but not one large enough to destroy the general and allow the GOP to win. It seems Bernie might.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

222. And, vice versa.

If she and her advisors can read the polls, it's obvious that Bernie has a much better chance against Trump. She should drop out and let the better candidate take on Trump.

Now, about that ego?

[kstewart33]

28. K & R. nt

[Joe the Revelator]

33. Why do people feel the need to throw around Yiddish when discussing the first Jewish...

Presidential candidate? Frankly it's condescending.

[Eric J in MN]

36. +1 (NT)

NT

[Scootaloo]

57. It's something, that's for sure.

[Vattel]

200. +1,000

[wendylaroux]

34. Keep going Bernie!!! show as many people as you can what a real statesman sounds like!!!!!

[Ichingcarpenter]

38. LOL.... Mineral man telling us what time it is!!!

You must be fun at your kids or grandkids birthdays

since their future doesn't matter........ Oh wait
you don't have any.

Why should you care about time?

[MineralMan]

66. You're right. I did not reproduce.

That was my contribution to slowing the population explosion. It was a deliberate decision. Many others have made the same decision. I have to be satisfied with my nieces and nephews and their offspring for my connection to the next generations.

Why should I care? That I chose not to add to the population load is how I showed that I do care, indeed. Am I fun at kids' gatherings? They seem to think so.

Do I care about your insulting reference to my decision about reproduction? I have to admit that I do not.

[Ichingcarpenter]

80. LOL Mineralman telling us what a mensch is

for Bernie Sanders Jewish heritage and the nation.


Man that's pretty low.

[Ichingcarpenter]

149. In these living years

[7wo7rees]

83. Peace. MiineralMan=sad.

I keep asking, no one answers? Why do Hillary supporters keep insisting Bernie drop out?

Crickets.,......

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

118. Why? Because it's impertinent for anyone to challenge the pre-appointed one.

Such lèse majesté must not be tolerated. Off with their heads!

[Waiting For Everyman]

40. What's best for the country is he stays in.

This is not a surprise. Bernie said all along what he was going to do, so there was no mystery about it. Knowing that, HRC could have planned better but she did not.

She has tried to depress the vote through this whole race, while at the same time she thinks she's going to get media coverage? Just how is that supposed to work? A blacked out campaign covered by the media.

She isn't very smart or competent.

[Scootaloo]

44. Yup, that's your opinion.

Thanks for sharing.

[pmorlan1]

49. My Opinion Differs

For the good of the Party, Bernie - Stay in until every vote is counted and we go to the Convention!

[Wilms]

52. Hey Sanders. Get off MM's lawn.

[tonyt53]

53. Bernie is getting his jollies by staying in. He likes to hear himself talk

He has never done anything of real value in the time he was in the House and now the Senate, so why would he start now.

[frylock]

157. Member since: Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:34 AM

[Fawke Em]

188. #MillionDollarTrolls

[frylock]

190. April is the second graduating class at Brock U.

It's uncanny how many of these new and aggressive posters signed up here either in mid-March or mid-April. Weird.

[Fawke Em]

201. Maybe the check doesn't clear until the middle of the month.

[Punkingal]

58. My opinion is the one under investigation should drop out.

[FlatBaroque]

60. Always impressed by your erudite and serious political analysis

Got any more pictures with Bernie's hands on a model's ass?

[Orsino]

61. How many times is it going to be time? n/t

[panader0]

62. Anti-democratic OP on DU. Unrec

[thucythucy]

65. Bernie should stay in

but he could do us, and himself, a lot of good by shifting to GE mode and showing us how well he can go after Trump.

It wouldn't hurt to have the two leading Democrats in the news hurling zingers at the Trumpster. Also, it will show us how well Bernie will do in a general election.

[Bluenorthwest]

70. A mensch? Do you always affect the jargon associated with a minorty group when speaking to

members of that minority group or is it just with that one minority?

[frylock]

160. Orale, guey.

[morningfog]

73. You aren't Jewish are you?

[MineralMan]

81. No, I'm not. Thanks for asking.

I do have a reasonable working knowledge of Yiddish, though.

[morningfog]

126. You mean you know enough Yiddish to use it as a means to insult someone who is Jewish, right?

Bad bad form.

[Warren Stupidity]

155. +1.

Nice catch.

[quickesst]

77. Bernie's supporters...

... put him up on this pedestal that he was never prepared for in the first place. I wholeheartedly agree with and share your opinion.

[Liberal_Dog]

78. Were You Demanding That Hillary Suspend Eight Years Ago?

Just wondering...

[Ichingcarpenter]

86. No he was posting on a right wing site at that time

FREE REPUBLIC MEMBER.

[MineralMan]

113. Actually, that's not correct.

I was banned from Free Republic in the Spring of 2006 for "anti-freeping." They got tired of me trying to change minds.

Just for truthfulness' sake.

[Ichingcarpenter]

130. So when it was Kerry /Bush you were still there?

Interesting.

[MineralMan]

87. I was an Obama supporter.

As it happened, that was a closer race than the 2016 one. In the end, though, Hillary Clinton did concede and called for Obama's nomination by acclamation at the convention. She might have won, right up to the last primaries, so there was no good reason for her to suspend her campaign. When it was clear that Obama would have a majority of pledged delegates, she conceded graciously and lent her support to his general election campaign.

Props to her for doing that. But, the picture wasn't so clear in May, 2008, as it is in May, 2016.

Thanks for asking.

[Kentonio]

240. Erm..

When it was clear that Obama would have a majority of pledged delegates, she conceded graciously and lent her support to his general election campaign.

[frylock]

164. "Hillary is too stupid to be President."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6829279

[gordianot]

82. The Primary season is not over.

In addition the Clinton campaign is reaching out to the Bush Family and their supporters. Not something I would ever condone even if they are distant cousins, who happen to be the single most evil entities on the planet. Forget complaining about past Clinton indiscretions this is happening now.

My desire is to make a useless and profane comment suggesting an impossible self performed sex act. Stay strong you real and true Democrats.

[GummyBearz]

84. Fuck that

I haven't even got to vote yet. Take your shitty ideas off this board

[MineralMan]

91. Both candidates will be on your ballot, regardless of

any decision to suspend. So, you and everyone else in states still to hold primaries will be able to vote just fine.

As for your suggestion that I not post my opinion here, I'm afraid I can't comply with your demand. Sorry.

[MoonRiver]

102. Somebody tried, and failed miserably, to shut down your 1st Amendment rights!

On Tue May 10, 2016, 09:13 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Please Suspend Now, Bernie!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511933006

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

All the above

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Tue May 10, 2016, 09:20 AM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't agree, but an opinion.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: What a ridiculous alert!
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: not disruptive, rude, OTT or inappropriate for this site. Some may be hurt, but so have many other threads here that are just terrible.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Ridiculous alert. This is simply mineral man's opinion. He's not even being vulgar or saying anything tasteless. Sure, I disagree, but let's all do that in our replies on the thread rather than hiding a legitimate message.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I think this is an obnoxious thread, but I have read much, much worse on DU.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[MineralMan]

108. Thanks for letting me know.

I suspect that most of my OPs get alerts. I appreciate seeing the results.

[Mnpaul]

215. There are no 1st amendment rights

on a privately owned website

[GummyBearz]

106. Well why even make the suggestion to suspend

Its the worst idea I've heard since NAFTA. Oh... I get it now

[MineralMan]

111. I think I made that clear in my OP.

Right now, the media are devoting almost all of its coverage to the presumptive nominee of the GOP. They are ignoring the Democratic side of the picture almost completely. That's largely due to there not being a clear nominee, even though the math makes it clear.

A suspension by Bernie Sanders would re-focus coverage to include Hillary Clinton as the general election opponent to Trump.

[GummyBearz]

112. Yea

That is a good point. Hillary was completely ignored by the media from day 1. I mean, no one even knew her name until like a month ago.

[John Poet]

137. Hillary could quit hiding hold a PRESS CONFERENCE.

She can get media attention anytime she wants it by actually talking to them.

She doesn't need Bernie to suspend his campaign for that.

[CountAllVotes]

127. Right on!

No resident Republicans need apply eh?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

89. I'm sure that when he reads this

he'll see the error of his ways and suspend his campaign immediately.

[JonLeibowitz]

92. Suspending one's campaign is a euphemism for dropping out

Whatever difference you may think exists is fairly meaningless.

As to the content of the OP, yes, my opinion does differ. I am not a Kissinger-loving corporate hack, so obviously I cannot support the other candidate.

[workinclasszero]

95. As long as the true believers keep sending their kids lunch money to Tad

Sanders's "revolution" will roll along.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

114. I thought all Bernie supporters were 19-year-old baristas

wearing man-buns and Birkenstocks? They have no kids from whom to take lunch money, so they must be stealing from the tip jar at Starbucks. Or giving speeches at Goldman Sachs.

[Go Vols]

192. My kid is old enough to buy his own lunch,

plus vote for Bernie, as did I and my father.

[frylock]

168. TDS

[AgingAmerican]

96. She doesn't have enough delegates

She hasn't won

[MineralMan]

104. She will have.

I'm not calling for the end of the primary elections. They will continue, and both candidates' names will be on every ballot.

By the convention, she will have a clear majority of pledged delegates and a large list of superdelegates who will vote for her nomination.

I don't think anyone really thinks that will not happen. That's not my point at all.

[whatchamacallit]

97. A new level of desperation from the normally smug "we got this" MM

Plead some more, I like it.

[potone]

98. Interesting that you post this today...

when there is a primary that Bernie is expected to win. Since Bernie is not going to be guided by anything posted on DU, it seems your only purpose is to demoralize his supporters. You can keep doing this, but it won't work and will only drive Bernie supporters away from your candidate in the GE.

[merrily]

110. +1 At least he didn't take eight paragraphs to say "Surrender, Bernie"

And how ironic is the sexist appeal to Bernie's manhood to be a "good" guy?

[lumberjack_jeff]

100. No... this is going to be a great month for democrats

and the upcoming elections, especially California, will expose the lies about who really supports progressive change.

Panic city.

It's a shame for democracy and progress that the old south is so overrepresented in early primaries.

[cwydro]

109. He's got a hell of an ego.

Sad.

[panader0]

119. You must be referring to MineralMan

[RufusTFirefly]

117. Bernie wasn't planning on suspending -- that is, until he saw your OP

Thanks so much for bringing him to his senses. He's forever in your debt.

Meanwhile, my neighborhood is awash in Bernie signs and stickers. I guess my neighbors haven't yet read your OP. Tant pis!

[Matariki]

120. You used to not post such garbage

what happened?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

128. It was those big pods in the back yard...

He hasn't been the same since they appeared. At first we thought it was just the catalpa trees shedding pods but these were different. Bigger. I remember MM talking about working in the garden. And now...

[TCJ70]

198. MM took a serious drink of the kool-aid...

...same thing happened to BigTree, as well. It's a common them among people who decide to support Hillary. Something triggers a change that I don't quite understand.

[NorthCarolina]

121. My opinion greatly differs. -nt-

[CountAllVotes]

123. Getting worried are ye?

[tularetom]

124. Put down that megaphone and those pom poms and take off that sweater with the big "H" on it

You used to be a thoughtful poster.

Before you became a fanboy.

[BlindTiresias]

132. lol

[longship]

134. Please suspend, MineralMan.

These immature, petulant posts are atypical of your normally well reasoned and well argued prose.

Why not just let the voting continue until a candidate is nominated like your candidate did in 2008!!! Otherwise you may be characterized as a rather big hypocrite.

What's next, MineralMan? Yet another childish "Call it, Skinner!" post?

I am very disappointed in you.

No DURec for you this time.

[Demsrule86]

154. That is not what happened

She ended her campaign after the last primary when it became clear she could not win. She had the popular vote...she had delegates that were not seated...she was much closer. Bernie has lost on all measures. He does no one any good now...if he stays in it and puts his name in nomination...his career is over and he looks like a fool.

[longship]

162. "She ended her campaign after the last primary"

That's it! The rest of your post is irrelevant.

Also, no candidate has earned the required pledged delegates. So the primary election campaign continues. Just like fucking 2008!

I do wish people would please stop acting like two year olds and let the process go forward.

[frylock]

189. She did not have the popular vote when MI and FL are removed from the equation.

[Bradical79]

135. Nope, stay until it's official

All the damage to the party has been self inflicted, imo, and I don't see how Clinton can lose in the general with demographics being what they are.

[frylock]

143. You worried?

You seem worried.

[azurnoir]

148. NO just NO

[SalviaBlue]

156. Are the rallies with +/-20,000 plus 10,000 outside worrying you?

No other candidate has his popularity. I want the progressive message to get out. Its not going to be televised, so Bernie continuing to have rallies until the end is best in my opinion.

[aikoaiko]

158. Eff that noise. Feel the Bern.

[jeff47]

165. If Clinton is such a weak candidate that she needs Sanders to drop out

then you should be utterly terrified of Clinton in the general election.

[Bradical79]

174. Good point

I really thought Clinton would have this sewn up by now in the early going with all of her advantages, but apparently a lot more people were tired of the casual corruption than I thought.

[KoKo]

182. Indeed!...

If Clinton is such a weak candidate that she needs Sanders to drop out then you should be utterly terrified of Clinton in the general election.

[Rass]

167. If Bernie drops out the democratic party will lose

Do you really want that? The corporate media will hide her dishonesty and corruption but the Internet will spread awareness. As a progressive I am telling everyone I know how corrupt she really is, and I am just one private channel. We are many.

Prepare for a reckoning right-winger DINOs or move back to the left.

[Go Vols]

194. There Is a Moderate Republican in This Race, But She’s Running as a Democrat

Who is the real Democrat — Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton?

from 1932-1976, the Democratic Party as a whole was far more progressive. The issues and approaches advocated today by Bernie Sanders were considered mainstream Democratic ideas by Franklin D. Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, and Lyndon Johnson, and even many moderate Republicans. It was common to support strict financial regulation, liberal immigration, social services for the poor, and progressive tax policies.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tony-brasunas/there-is-a-moderate-republican-in-this-race_b_9704194.html

[workinclasszero]

211. Hillary Clinton is a Hard-Core Liberal.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Hillary_Clinton.htm

[Rass]

212. From the Hillary forum?

I saw that posted on a Hillary forum where progressives are usually banned. She is hard right on economic issues. When both are combined she leans right-wing. Her history is all that one needs to know when she lies to the public.

[Kentonio]

169. Come now..

The Democratic primary runs until June. Hillary Clinton knew the rules when she entered, what right does she have to complain now?

[PufPuf23]

172. Please take a long nap Now, MineralMan!

How about do what is best for the country and let the primaries and the nominating convention play out?

People still are to vote in primaries. The Party platform needs to be considered. Votes need to be garnished to provide for a Democratic win in general election.

The DNC and Democratic party leadership already made a major mistakes in treating Hillary Clinton as an incumbent and failing to provide a slate of qualified candidates for Democratic perusal in the primary season as was the case in 2008.

Note I am mirroring you in good humor.

[B Calm]

173. My opinion is different. Hillary needs to drop out now so the party will have time to unite

behind the more trustworthy liberal candidate.

[Lil Missy]

184. Democrats are already united; She'll do just fine.

Oh, do you mean the BS'ers are still demanding that the loser be able to set the terms? That kind of united? Not gonna happen.

[B Calm]

239. I think we're more divided than I've seen in my lifetime of 65 years.

[Fawke Em]

175. Why do you people always yell for him to get out right before he

goes on a winning streak?



If Hillary isn't capable of gaining any momentum, that's her fault. Not Bernie's.

[Rass]

180. Corporate media limits his coverage

People are learning about him through other channels despite corporate censorship. Time is on Bernie's side and the right wingers (Hillary and company) know that.

[guillaumeb]

177. As HRC did in 2008?

Or did HRC continue her campaign until the end?

[highprincipleswork]

186. It does. He should keep going. Too many variables in play, even for the alleged "math experts".

Some of the math does not favor Hillary. For instance, matchups against Trump.

We of the Bernie side believe she is clearly not the best choice. Not to win, not to hold true to Democratic values.

There are also still votes to be counted. And an FBI report to read.

Let it play out. See if you can control your anxiety.

If Hillary really wants to win, she should do her best to salvage her relationship with the Bernie supporters, the largest group of low-hanging votes in the entire country.

Let's see what she does. Let's see what you do.

Bernie, do not drop out of the race.

[Rass]

191. Bernie supporters are aware of Hillary's...

..dishonesty and contempt for progressives. Look at her contempt for progressives from her "I'm winning" pitch.

Salvaging the relationship would take a miracle considering how Hillary flip flops depending on the audience.

[Go Vols]

195. lol

[highprincipleswork]

208. I am well aware of this, and I do believe in miracles. I'm certain they happen all the time. The

only thing with miracles is you've got to be willing to believe. And you've got to appreciate and see them when they happen, even the very small ones. That's how you nurture them.

Bernie's candidacy is kind of a "miracle". Who could imagine this would happen? Who could imagine it could be so big?

It could and would be so much bigger if all the too-clever doubters in the Democratic Party would just vote for what they really want. If they don't want the things Bernie wants, I don't see how they can call themselves a Democrat, to be honest. Most of them just hang their heads, because they don't believe what he says can be achieved. But, as he says, it all can be achieved if we all were to join forces and vote and work for it together.

Betting on the policies you don't really want but know you can achieve with the bozos on the other side of the aisle - that's a recipe for failure from the get-go. Because, even if you win and forge a policy that way, you've already compromised your soul away and lost. That's exactly what has been wrong with the Democratic Party for far too many years.

Now that I think about it, this effective and true line of reasoning makes me even more adamant to support Bernie!!!

[yuiyoshida]

258. Goman na hito ga Kirada

i hate arrogance. wo tu yen tsi da der me guo nan ren. (mandarin)

[lagomorph777]

197. Your desperation is showing. No amount of begging is going to make Bernie go away.

So sad to see people so terrified.

[Todays_Illusion]

199. Rotten idea to dismiss the California voters like that. I will be voting for Bernie Sanders.

[rateyes]

204. I'm sure Bernie will give your request the

Consideration it deserves. Zero.

My opinion. I'm sure yours differs.

[Hekate]

206. "Please suspend now, Hillary, for the good of the party!"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511934610


Please Suspend Now, Hillary, CNN Shows Only Sanders Beats Trump:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511934520

[bkkyosemite]

205. The MSM may think the GE has started by ALL accounts BUT it hasn't.

Bernie is not going to concede not going to suspend. NO!

[Sheepshank]

207. Hillary has not asked Bernie to concede

In fact she is encouraging him to stay in the race. So no reason for any BS to play victim on his behalf.

Doesn't stop anyone/everyone else from moving on to the GE with or without his consent.

[bkkyosemite]

260. It's not up to her yet she thinks everything in this primary is up to her since she has

been given the golden crown of DWS and her lot.

[SixString]

210. The freep speaks.. Keep posting Miniman

Expose the true you.

[MineralMan]

214. Nice. Not relevant, but

thanks for taking thexl time to read and reply. I feel honored that one of your rare posts was a reply to me. Truly.

[beaglelover]

217. He's won't. His ego is too big and he loves the idol worship.

[JHB]

219. Let. The process. Finish.

Why is that so hard?

[polly7]

220. Millions want to vote for him and support him yet, wtf would he suspend? nt.

[MineralMan]

221. He'll still be on every ballot.

People can vote as they choose. I'm suggesting that Bernie suspend his campaign. People can still vote for him. Ballots are printed and distributed. Votes will be counted. Please pay attention to what I said, not what you imagine I said. Thanks.

[polly7]

223. I asked WHY should he suspend?

Please pay attention to what I said, not to what you want to twist my words into.

Thanks.

[ThePhilosopher04]

225. I'm sure Bernie will not take your advice. Nor should he.

[3hummingbirds]

228. suspend

Why should he? Hillary went until June both times she ran. She is not the nominee yet and millions still have not voted. They deserve their chance to be heard.

[JDPriestly]

230. We in California want our chance to vote.

Thanks for respecting our voting rights.

[superkona]

235. everybody remembers bobby kennedy

was assassinated in june

[highprincipleswork]

236. Hillary, suspend your campaign to appeal to Conservative Republicans and work on uniting Democrats

for a change.

We who support Bernie, whatever you think of us, we're only fighting for values that Democrats have been going for for decades.

Now Hillary and her supporters may not want to look out for the economic welfare of the little person, but I certainly do. Bernie certain does.

How about bringing us and like-minded Independents and yes, even Republicans who can think this way are welcome.

But how about staying away from the corrupting influence of big money and Republican conservative corporatists? I mean really. If you really, really, really do win and convince Bernie and us to come along with you perhaps he can show you how to stretch 1,000's of donations of $27 into quite a nice arsenal of financial support.

[coyote]

238. It's time to recognize the reality that Bernie is not dropping out

This is beneficial to you as it give you more time to look for Bernie ass pictures to post.

[Warren DeMontague]

241. If she wants to pivot to win the "Megachurch Moms", nothing is stopping her from doing that already.

In fact, it sounds like she's already started.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

243. It's really unheard of. For all intents and purposes, Hillary wrapped this up weeks ago.

I don't recall a time that the presumptive loser continues to gain momentum. Typically, the defeated candidate wilts and goes away quietly and this becomes like the victory lap for the presumptive winner. Why don't you think this is happening for Hillary? Probably because idiot talking heads and supporters are screaming bloody murder because he hasn't dropped out. That, and he has a very good message. Maybe her supporters should work with Bernie's supporters to change the primary system rather than bitch and moan incessantly. Right now, Hillary supporters are suppressing votes. You don't want to hear from California or Oregon. Maybe the solution is to campaign for months then hold all the primaries on the same day.

Shame on you. Unfortunately, you're shameless.

[peace13]

252. For the bazillionth time..

..even your candidate agrees that the primary is still on. Drop out if you want to and join back in July. Whatever you need to do!

[immoderate]

254. Trump is an unpredictable gas bag. Hillary is a Republican.

Let's cling to hope a little bit longer.

--imm

[SheilaT]

256. Oh, yes, just like Hillary did early on in 2008! She conceded as soon as it was clear she wouldn't

win the nomination, right? What? She didn't concede until after the last of the primaries and caucuses? Oh. I bet you didn't know that, MineralMan.

You may have already voted in your primary or caucus, but mine isn't until June7, and I want to cast a vote that means something to me, namely for Bernie Sanders.

Plus, these constant appeals for Bernie to give up really do show the desperation of the Hillary crowd. After all this time, after her 80 point plus advantage at the very beginning of everything, she STILL hasn't clinched the nomination. If that doesn't tell you what a weak candidate she is, if her insanely high negatives to affirm that, and if her dreadful polling against Donald isn't a wake-up call, then I don't know what to say.

Other than let's finish out the primary season and then go on to the convention, okay?

[bvf]

257. "It's time to put the presidential election in November

on the front burner..."

Why must you use such a violent trope to make your point? It evokes images of setting millions of innocent voters on fire. Surely you can find a less misanthropic way to forward your argument.




http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511928718