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FourScore

(9,704 posts)
Wed May 11, 2016, 12:02 AM May 2016

I am very confused by the 51% to 38%..

Bernie currently has 112,000, Hillary has 79,000 (I'm rounding the numbers) which makes a total of 191,000. But according to The Guardian, 219,000 votes have been counted. Who got the other 28,000 votes?

Any ideas?

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I am very confused by the 51% to 38%.. (Original Post) FourScore May 2016 OP
Some local guy is pulling almost 9% Renew Deal May 2016 #1
Interesting. AtomicKitten May 2016 #5
It is not unprecedented Renew Deal May 2016 #7
That they are added into the tally now is unprecedented. AtomicKitten May 2016 #10
I'm not sure you know the meaning of "unprecedented" onenote May 2016 #13
Paul T. Farrell Jr. CentralCoaster May 2016 #2
And bumped Hillary to 3rd place in at least one county. Barack_America May 2016 #3
She just can't seal the deal. CentralCoaster May 2016 #4
Who wants to eat that canned meat? It smells funny and tastes bad no matter how you package it Vote2016 May 2016 #6
oh my. Hiraeth May 2016 #8
Please clap. frylock May 2016 #15
Thanks I was about to point this out nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #9
They are votes for others... lmbradford May 2016 #11
Is that the 15% rule? I was wondering if that applies here. nt NWCorona May 2016 #12
Yes. RichVRichV May 2016 #14
On the touch screen, where did Farrell's name appear? JimDandy May 2016 #16
No clue, I live in Illinois. RichVRichV May 2016 #18
Thanks! That was informative NWCorona May 2016 #17
 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
5. Interesting.
Wed May 11, 2016, 12:21 AM
May 2016
National Convention At-Large and Pledged Pledged PLEO delegates are elected during the 12 June State Executive Committee Meeting according to the results of the primary.

The remaining 8 National Convention delegates consist of

8 Unpledged PLEO delegates:
6 Democratic National Committee members.
1 Member of Congress (1 Senator and 0 Representatives).
1 Governor.
0 Distinguished Party Leaders.

These 8 delegates will go to the Democratic National Convention officially "Unpledged".


If the so-called super delegates go to the Nat'l Convention officially "unpledged," why are the being counted into the tally now? It is unprecedented and, frankly, dishonest.

Renew Deal

(81,890 posts)
7. It is not unprecedented
Wed May 11, 2016, 12:24 AM
May 2016

They are discussed every cycle. Most of the honest news outlets will mention the details. But we take the delegates at their word and the process is rarely close overall. It was close in 2008 and Hillary still dropped out after the last primary.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
10. That they are added into the tally now is unprecedented.
Wed May 11, 2016, 12:33 AM
May 2016

They were kept separate in 2008 and 2012. The implication of adding them into the tally now is that they were earned when, in fact, they are not officially cast until the convention. Bottom line is until a candidate reaches the magic number of earned/pledged delegates, there is no nominee in which case a nominee will be decided at the convention.

lmbradford

(517 posts)
11. They are votes for others...
Wed May 11, 2016, 12:35 AM
May 2016

The others are non-viable so those votes will be divided proportionally between Clinton and Sanders. That is my understanding.

RichVRichV

(885 posts)
14. Yes.
Wed May 11, 2016, 12:56 AM
May 2016

The 15 percent rule applies separately across the 3 congressional districts for the 20 district level delegates (districts 1 and 2 have 7 delegates each, district 3 has 6 delegates) and across the state as a whole for the 3 PLEO and 6 At-Large delegates. So if any candidate crosses the 15% threshold in any congressional district then they would be in the running for a district level delegate. At one point earlier tonight "Other" was at 19% in district 3. I don't know how the breakdown between other candidates were though. I'm still waiting on the remaining counties to tally up the district level results.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
16. On the touch screen, where did Farrell's name appear?
Wed May 11, 2016, 01:08 AM
May 2016

Was it next to Clinton or next to Sanders or not next to either of their names?

RichVRichV

(885 posts)
18. No clue, I live in Illinois.
Wed May 11, 2016, 01:57 AM
May 2016

I'm just going off the posted results and the rules in the delegate selection plan.

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