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CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:45 AM May 2016

Nebraska, Bernie, and moral consistency.

Last night, we got to see a clean and incontrovertible example of how caucuses are voter suppression. Despite losing the Nebraska causes by 14 points, Hillary won the non-binding primary over Bernie, when the turnout jumped. That's right, more people showed up for a vanity vote that was not actually a part of the process, than did for the actual caucus. So many more people showed up that it's hard to deny something is strikingly wrong with caucuses.

It also drives a stake through Bernie's argument that he wins when voter turnout is high, but that is not the point here.

Bernie has been talking for a month now, at every opportunity, about the need to open our process. He called New York's voting laws 'voter suppression', and has been calling for a platform change to make all contests open to Republicans and independents as well.

After last night, I would like to know how Bernie can continue to make those arguments without putting caucuses as the top of the list of needed changes. We have seen before, and now Bernie has seen with his own eyes, that caucuses are the single hardest way to vote, and ensures the lowest turnout. Bernie talks about wanting fairness, but he has yet to speak out about the unfair way that he has won a large number of his delegates.

It's easy to complain about the things that you feel slight you. It's hard to complain about the advantages you have. With the tone Bernie has struck recently, he owes it to us to come out against caucuses. Today.

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Nebraska, Bernie, and moral consistency. (Original Post) CrowCityDem May 2016 OP
One could easily argue catnhatnh May 2016 #1
Rachel Maddow asked Bernie Sanders about caucuses in a May 6 interview. Eric J in MN May 2016 #2
Funny how he's ok with certain types of disenfranchisement. It's disingenuous. CrowCityDem May 2016 #3

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
1. One could easily argue
Wed May 11, 2016, 12:56 PM
May 2016

That caucuses bring out only the most informed and politically involved voters and that primaries allow drive-by voting. Also that absentee ballots should never be made available more than a week before the polls so that all candidates can get exposure before any votes are cast.

Now you can see what advantages I feel Clinton got. When will she speak out against them?

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
2. Rachel Maddow asked Bernie Sanders about caucuses in a May 6 interview.
Wed May 11, 2016, 01:04 PM
May 2016

Maddow brought up your point about caucuses having low turnout.

Sanders said that is a valid argument against them, but that he likes that community aspect of people discussing politics with their neighbors in the Iowa Caucus.

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