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What Happened at the Nevada Democratic State Convention?
Greetings, my friends! As many of you have probably heard, tensions were high at the state convention in Nevada yesterday. Now, because CNN, MSNBC, and the rest of the usual news outlets seem to have forgotten to mention it, Ive decided (as usual) to step in to inform you all and clean up the mess of misinformation.
You see, all of this happened because there has been a bit of a misunderstanding between the Democratic Party and ourselves theyve been laboring under the impression that we you know, the people are supposed to subserviently accept what the democratic party officials have decreed but meanwhile we (having been misled by the word democratic being in their name) thought that we would get to have a say in choosing our nominee for president. As you can guess, this embarrassing miscommunication has led to a lot of confusion but worry not! I believe that we can clear all of that up in this article by taking a look at a few numbers. First up, lets talk about
1,693 and 1,662
Those were the numbers of both Clinton and Sanders delegates that were at the state democratic convention in Nevada on Saturday well, actually, those are the numbers of delegates that were allowed to participate in the convention on Saturday and, as you can see:
1,693 1,662 = 31
Clinton had 31 more delegates inside of the convention which wasnt very good news for the Sanders supporters yesterday. But wait! Theres another number that you should probably know about and that is
more: https://johnlaurits.com/2016/05/15/what-happened-at-the-nevada-democratic-state-convention/
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)and showed how unhinged they are. That's about it.
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)But hey, it suited the Clinton camp so all's good, right?
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)the convention center because unstable and dangerous and it was best that people left. It was the BS cheerleaders own actions then ended up shutting everything down.
azmom
(5,208 posts)Stop spreading lies.
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)JimDandy
(7,318 posts)Here's what apparently happened.
The Clinton Camp was so furious that Sanders won NV at the Nevada County Conventions level that they decided to devise a way to erase the delegate count lead he earned at that level. To do that, they changed the Nevada Democratic State Convention rules to make the results of all the Nevada Democratic County Conventions Null and Void.
The effect was as if the County Conventions had never existed.
That's right--all the work, time, expense, passion, and enthusiasm of the delegates, both Sanders' and Clinton's by the way, who showed up and followed the rules was simply crushed into dust.
This appears to be unprecedented. Unprecedented not just in the Nevada State Democratic Party, but in all democratic Partys anywhere in the entire US.
While what happened was unbridled, in-your-face corruption at the Nevada State level, the strategy was undoubtedly provided by top Democrats at the National level.
Why would anyone ever want to participate in a Democratic Party Convention again, at any level, knowing now that rightfully earned results can simply be overturned, at the request of one of the candidates, by a change in the rules?
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)brentspeak
(18,290 posts)The boards here are now swimming in Hillary PAC-sponsored trolls. Their only instruction is to disrupt and frustrate any conversation critical of HRC and this rigged primary season.
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HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)Because the convention started at 930am before everyone got inside. A voice vote was cast without everyone present on a key rules change that essentially negated the results of the county conventions. The motion was passed even though by all accounts the two camps were nearly even. When you have two groups of 1500 people shouting 'yay' or 'nay' I don't know how you tell which one is louder, but hey, one of Hillary's surrogates was in charge so of course the vote went her way. Then the convention went on for another 13 hours as Bernie's people demanded a recount of the delegates but were denied repeatedly. Keep in mind, the initial counts were done before everybody had gotten inside. Then the coup de gras when Boxer ignored a motion on the floor to perform a recount, created and seconded her own motion, didn't listen for 'yays' or 'nays', then passed her motion and immediately adjourned the convention. The whole thing was a cluster by design.
But don't take my word for it. Read the dozens of testimonials floating around right now, or watch the dozens of videos. It's there for all to see.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)It is a rule that a voice vote can be called to negate the 2nd round Caucus totals BEFORE the entire delegation is seated????
You will have to show me that one. It certainly isn't very "democratic", but our party has strayed FAR from that "democratic" thing.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)...to determine the outcome of the convention.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)Delegates were allowed to get their credentials until 10am. Quorum is 40% of registered delegates.
http://nvdems.3cdn.net/ea5a7f0df495b0cf4c_z2m6bnqh5.pdf
That seems like a low percentage for a quorum. But doesn't seem like that was the issue.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Hare Krishna
(58 posts)Can't find one single election that Clinton won cleanly.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)sure whatever.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)reevaluate my appetite for "unity" in the general.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #11)
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bvar22
(39,909 posts)[font size=1]The super-democracy freedom-brigade, seen at the state convention,
serving and protecting us last night.[/font]
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Both are chilling
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)the people on the other wide of the barrier. You were around for 1968... this is what this has the potential for... damn it, and I am on the other side of the country. And excuses the party flavors to TSA would be fun
7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)Response to 7wo7rees (Reply #26)
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CentralMass
(15,265 posts)I've seen all that I need to see in this election..