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"Im scared for my family," Ms. Lange said. "Scared for my kids". (Original Post) JaneyVee May 2016 OP
He felt the same way about blm Ohioblue22 May 2016 #1
blm bigtree May 2016 #7
Of course she is... dchill May 2016 #2
The Sanders fans dangerous behavior/texs are the issue. Stop trying to blame riversedge May 2016 #4
Get real. Who am I "blaming?" dchill May 2016 #6
Scary internet messages, you know you can walk away right? JPnoodleman May 2016 #13
They published her cell phone # and harassed her employer. JaneyVee May 2016 #16
Or you people can just not send her threatening messages. NuclearDem May 2016 #25
If someone sends me a message that I suck I will suck it up... DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #43
Ever seen a football gane when the fanbs don't like the refs call Armstead May 2016 #34
I don't think fans get the cell phone numbers of the refs and threaten their lives and lives .... DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #47
Some probably woud or have Armstead May 2016 #74
I don't dispute that. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #75
Those unicorns and ponies might start looking pretty good. libdem4life May 2016 #79
Where's the arrests? HooptieWagon May 2016 #41
A verb, MrWendel May 2016 #81
Refusing to change the rules is strong-arming the convention? Cali_Democrat May 2016 #70
Sanders needs to publicly condemn this behavior before someone gets hurt. riversedge May 2016 #3
When Hillary addresses the voter registration dumps across the country.. peace13 May 2016 #10
He really does pressbox69 May 2016 #21
They've issued a statement. NuclearDem May 2016 #27
Pathetic Stuckinthebush May 2016 #32
From the "human rights" people. What frauds. It was always about the money to them. Trust Buster May 2016 #5
Lange should resign, end of problem.. monmouth4 May 2016 #8
Exactly. nenagh May 2016 #9
So Cyberbullying is OK then? apnu May 2016 #12
About as okay as blatantly cheating or rules-lawyering to get your way. n/t Jester Messiah May 2016 #30
Rules lawyers should get death and rape threats. Gotcha. apnu May 2016 #35
Such entertaining histrionics. n/t Jester Messiah May 2016 #38
You're not denying the cyberbullying that's happening. apnu May 2016 #53
The burden's on you to prove it happened and isn't just spew from the Clinton machine. Jester Messiah May 2016 #55
Your lack of statement has been noted. apnu May 2016 #62
Oh noes, not "noted"!!! Jester Messiah May 2016 #63
Says the person who doesn't have the courage to go on record on cyberbully tactics. apnu May 2016 #68
It pleases me to frustrate you. n/t Jester Messiah May 2016 #69
It pleases me to see you exposed as an apologist for death-threats and other violence. Maru Kitteh May 2016 #83
Yeah, -that's- what happened here. Jester Messiah May 2016 #88
Spot on. bvf May 2016 #73
No, neither is public malfeasance. lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #39
Resignation does not. apnu May 2016 #54
No, it's non existent to me. I dealt with real bullies in real life and experienced real violence TheKentuckian May 2016 #45
I've been abused and assulted too. apnu May 2016 #59
I didn't blame her but I stand by my position(s). Like all bullies she wants to cry foul TheKentuckian May 2016 #86
Not the end. They published her cell # and employer. JaneyVee May 2016 #19
Her office number, you mean. Jester Messiah May 2016 #57
No, her cell phone #. It was even posted here on DU. JaneyVee May 2016 #61
Once again, Sanders supporters blame their victim. NuclearDem May 2016 #31
Thereby teaching the Bullybros that their techniques will work? nt Codeine May 2016 #37
"the senator believes that the Democratic Party all over the country ..... Sheepshank May 2016 #11
100% Clinton manufactured outrage. Waaaaaaaaaaaaah! ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #14
So glad Bernie brand of never taking responsibility... JaneyVee May 2016 #20
Right? What a horrible example he set with this behavior. Maru Kitteh May 2016 #84
Looking forward to seeing a post from you intended to foster discussion one day. JCanete May 2016 #85
Who was the instigator? Team Clinton. They own it. Skwmom May 2016 #15
+1 One Black Sheep May 2016 #18
Thats like saying "her skirt was too short, she deserved it". JaneyVee May 2016 #22
Not at all. Here is another analogy that maybe you will get One Black Sheep May 2016 #26
I find this hard to believe. However, next time maybe she should think before agreeing to be Skwmom May 2016 #17
Yeah lets just end caucuses altogether. JaneyVee May 2016 #23
Well at least caucuses are harder to steal and easier to expose when they are. Skwmom May 2016 #42
The victim blaming by BS supporters in this thread is disgusting taught_me_patience May 2016 #24
I'm not shocked anymore Bobbie Jo May 2016 #49
where exactly does this screenshot source from? please post a link azurnoir May 2016 #28
Actions have consequences. Think about that next time. eom Purveyor May 2016 #29
Wow. Straight up justification. Codeine May 2016 #40
So you believe a woman deserves to be attacked because she walked down a dark street, all american girl May 2016 #92
God help America pressbox69 May 2016 #33
Now that she is speaking out can she comment on why she messed up that floor vote? Ash_F May 2016 #36
PS - Vigilantism happens when people feel like there is no due process Ash_F May 2016 #44
I'm sure the KKK justified their actions as a consequence of northern aggression. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #51
That's cute. Sanders won the most diverse state in the nation. Ash_F May 2016 #56
Nothing to do with a candidate. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #65
I agree. But also the rule of law should apply to the government Ash_F May 2016 #66
We agree again. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #67
What is the most diverse state in the nation? I thought that was California. apnu May 2016 #71
It's actually Hawaii Ash_F May 2016 #72
Hawaii is? Really? apnu May 2016 #80
The least White State anyway Ash_F May 2016 #89
lolz obamanut2012 May 2016 #58
Oh I'm sure pressbox69 May 2016 #46
Blatant election fraud should not be a safe activity AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #48
Sanders is running a disgusting campaign. nt LexVegas May 2016 #50
CNN just said the Nevada situation was the same as Hillary supporters in 2008. floriduck May 2016 #52
I'm scared for my kids too...and that's why I won't vote for Clinton DebDoo May 2016 #60
Yeah she is an operations manager for a restaurant/bar Ash_F May 2016 #64
I'm scared for granddaughters, that's why I support Bernie! B Calm May 2016 #76
I'm scared for my country when people like Lange fraudulently distort & abuse the election process. AtomicKitten May 2016 #77
The Hillary team railroaded the results... ljm2002 May 2016 #78
K & R Maru Kitteh May 2016 #82
It's sad when a campaign's supporters has to resort to terrorism NobodyHere May 2016 #87
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #90
"Apparently" Bonobo May 2016 #91

dchill

(38,489 posts)
2. Of course she is...
Tue May 17, 2016, 01:55 PM
May 2016

Didn't stop her from strong arming the convention though, did it?

I'm scared for my country. We all should be.

riversedge

(70,216 posts)
4. The Sanders fans dangerous behavior/texs are the issue. Stop trying to blame
Tue May 17, 2016, 01:57 PM
May 2016

others for their vile behavior!!

JPnoodleman

(454 posts)
13. Scary internet messages, you know you can walk away right?
Tue May 17, 2016, 02:54 PM
May 2016

How many people get nasty troll messages a day? How much ever comes from that?

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
43. If someone sends me a message that I suck I will suck it up...
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:20 PM
May 2016

If someone sends me a message cryptically telling me they know where my girlfriend works I'm calling the law.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
34. Ever seen a football gane when the fanbs don't like the refs call
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:17 PM
May 2016

All this phony delicacy is tiresome

The ones who have acted out shouldn't have gotten carried away. The ones running the meeting should have been more accommodating. A shitty situation resulted.
'
End of story.

You'd best be prepared to have your delicate sensibilities assaulted in a regular basis if Clinton goes up against Trump..... Bernie and his supporters will seem like pink fluffy bunnies by comparison

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
47. I don't think fans get the cell phone numbers of the refs and threaten their lives and lives ....
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:26 PM
May 2016

I don't think fans get the cell phone numbers of the refs and threaten their lives and the lives of their grandchildren, do you ?

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
74. Some probably woud or have
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:27 PM
May 2016

I'm not defending anyone behaving like that....But in anything involving millions of people there are gong to be some bad apples in the bunch

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
79. Those unicorns and ponies might start looking pretty good.
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:39 PM
May 2016

Even the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy folk.

I dread watching the GE matchup. Trump has pretty much revealed all of his "baggage" and done what he usually does...bluster right on through it. And what is different this time that was not nearly as much as before, is the social media/internet aspect.

She's from the time when you could pretty much get away, as most politicians were wont to do, and say different things to different groups. Mitt Romney broke through that glass ceiling with his famous 47% comment. Now it's got to be closed door and secret speeches sans transcripts.

I don't think there is a lot more out there on Trump, but betwen her transcripts and the Clinton Foundation...she's not been "vetted" on that, if one means scrutiny by an opposition candidate. The MSM has been easy on her on thoses matters.

HRC is not used to such blatant frontal attack. Even the Benghazi hearings marathon were carried out with polite decorum, as I recall.

The Republican Hate Machine has never had this golden opportunity, and I don't think it bodes well.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
41. Where's the arrests?
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:20 PM
May 2016

Should be easy to ID and arrest those violent 'BernieBros'... though it might be rather embarrassing when they turn out to be Brocks trolls.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
70. Refusing to change the rules is strong-arming the convention?
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:50 PM
May 2016

Delegates had to be registered Dems by a certain date. About 60 of Bernie supporters were not.

apnu

(8,756 posts)
35. Rules lawyers should get death and rape threats. Gotcha.
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:17 PM
May 2016

Thanks for clearing that up.

I'll be sure to bring that up at my next table top game when some hauls out a rules book. I'm sure that will go over wonderfully.

apnu

(8,756 posts)
53. You're not denying the cyberbullying that's happening.
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:32 PM
May 2016

Therefore you must approve. If you don't approve say so plainly.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
55. The burden's on you to prove it happened and isn't just spew from the Clinton machine.
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:34 PM
May 2016

In the meantime, this oh-so-carefully crafted narrative from the Hillarites about the mean old Bernie Bros can take a long walk off a short pier.

apnu

(8,756 posts)
62. Your lack of statement has been noted.
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:38 PM
May 2016

changing the subject, isn't going to give you an escape.

Are you against cyberbullying, "yes" or "no" is the only answer you need to give. You choose to continue to dodge around.

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
83. It pleases me to see you exposed as an apologist for death-threats and other violence.
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:48 PM
May 2016

You and others. Can you stay on subject? I doubt it.

apnu

(8,756 posts)
54. Resignation does not.
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:34 PM
May 2016

It gives the bully what they want. The threats have happened and her family is not and forever scarred. That bell can never be rung.

Her actions at the convention and the death threats are two separate issues.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
45. No, it's non existent to me. I dealt with real bullies in real life and experienced real violence
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:22 PM
May 2016

I don't think anything of someone claiming to be bullied via electrons over a data connection.

I also note her "fear" didn't keep her from shady shenanigans including an early vote rules change.

She sounds like one of the weak ass bullies I've had the misfortune of dealing with crying when the folks she wants to push around even grumble about pushing back.

"Cyberbulling" is a complaint that I'd imagine anyone who actually took beatings and was persecuted real life rolls their eyes to at least a bit.

apnu

(8,756 posts)
59. I've been abused and assulted too.
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:36 PM
May 2016

Not all violence is physical. I have dealt with and lived with both.

Whatever her actions were, none of this kind of abuse is acceptable. Its akin to blaming the victim. As liberals we're better than that.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
86. I didn't blame her but I stand by my position(s). Like all bullies she wants to cry foul
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:58 PM
May 2016

when she gets pushback. If she is so "afraid" now she was sure brassy when she was leading shenanigans and running over citizens so what happened to all that tough and bluster?

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
57. Her office number, you mean.
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:35 PM
May 2016

At the Democratic office, where she has a phone for people to call her about how the party's affairs are conducted...

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
11. "the senator believes that the Democratic Party all over the country .....
Tue May 17, 2016, 02:49 PM
May 2016

...would serve its own interests better if it were to figure out a way to welcome people...it would behoove the part to be more welcoming..."

Oh really?

How does one sincerely welcome those that (1) bite the hand that proffers the welcoming handshake, (2) has insulted and continues to insult Hillary (3) provides a very, very clear and vocal message that Hillary will never get their vote?

How does one welcome those people without subjugating the platform of the winner to their every single whim, as they have been demanding? How would the Bernie crowd be more welcoming if the roles were reversed?

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
84. Right? What a horrible example he set with this behavior.
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:49 PM
May 2016

SO glad he will NEVER take a breath in the oval office.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
85. Looking forward to seeing a post from you intended to foster discussion one day.
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:56 PM
May 2016

The beauty of this lame-ass argument is that if Bernie supporters try to point out obvious misrepresentation via hearsay or anecdotal evidence, or we try to point out the fucking obvious reality that there is an establishment agenda and preferred candidate, and that it is actively working to seat that candidate, then we aren't taking responsibility or we're making excuses for not winning. For once, why not actually refute the meat of our claims rather than going straight for the dismissal.

I'll take a shot in the dark about your reasons. It's because your intent isn't to shed light on these issues, or to learn or educate. It's only to sell a meme.

One Black Sheep

(458 posts)
18. +1
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:08 PM
May 2016

People who commit crimes or do unethical things sometimes will get unpleasantness in return if they are found out or exposed. Yea, it sucks, but they shouldn't do the crime or the unethical thing in the first place.

One Black Sheep

(458 posts)
26. Not at all. Here is another analogy that maybe you will get
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:13 PM
May 2016

Many criminals get hate mail and angry mobs talking hate about them, such as Ted Bundy or other notorious criminals...should I feel sorry for them when they get hate mail?

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
17. I find this hard to believe. However, next time maybe she should think before agreeing to be
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:08 PM
May 2016

a part of such an undemocratic, shady, corrupt. The thought of anyone feeling threatened by Bernie supporters is

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
24. The victim blaming by BS supporters in this thread is disgusting
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:12 PM
May 2016

and pathetic. I'm shocked to read some of this vitriol on DU.

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
49. I'm not shocked anymore
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:28 PM
May 2016

It has been going on for months.

I guess I'm more shocked that it has been allowed to continue.

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
92. So you believe a woman deserves to be attacked because she walked down a dark street,
Wed May 18, 2016, 05:46 AM
May 2016

or she had too much to drink, or that her skirt was too short, or that she should have known better. This attitude about death threats to a person, threatening her family, harassing her place of employment is all the same. This shit is real, and blaming the victim is disgusting. You wouldn't stand for it if it was coming from Trump supporters, so why do you condone it from people doing it in Bernie's name?

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
56. That's cute. Sanders won the most diverse state in the nation.
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:35 PM
May 2016

That said, I did not say the behavior is justified. It is a pretty good argument for having an orderly government that follows its own rules, though.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
65. Nothing to do with a candidate.
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:44 PM
May 2016

Lots of aggrieved people feel they have the right to take the law into their own hands. That we don't let them prevents us from having the law of the jungle.

apnu

(8,756 posts)
71. What is the most diverse state in the nation? I thought that was California.
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:52 PM
May 2016

Which hasn't held its primary yet.

Also this isn't about government, its about the Democratic Party and its policies and practices. Which are poor, to be sure, but they aren't government in any way or form.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
72. It's actually Hawaii
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:54 PM
May 2016

When the Democratic party can pick the leader of the country, they are effectively part of the government and should be subject to just and due process.

 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
52. CNN just said the Nevada situation was the same as Hillary supporters in 2008.
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:30 PM
May 2016

I'm not aware of the 2008 incident. I'm just repeating what a panelist said on Brook Baldwins show.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
64. Yeah she is an operations manager for a restaurant/bar
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:42 PM
May 2016

She is making at least 100k

Her kids will be fine.

Also might explain the iron-fisted behavior.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
78. The Hillary team railroaded the results...
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:33 PM
May 2016

...and now they're oh, so distraught that there are consequences.

Yes, it is very, very bad for anyone to make threats over this. Anyone who made actual threats should be prosecuted IMO, I don't care who they support.

But the DNC knew what they were doing, not following their own damned rules and running roughshod over Bernie's supporters at the caucus. They could have followed, I repeat, THEIR OWN DAMNED RULES, and this would not have gotten out of hand.

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