2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum"Im scared for my family," Ms. Lange said. "Scared for my kids".
Apparently Team Bernie doesnt think its their problem.
Ohioblue22
(1,430 posts)...isn't an acronym for Hillary for America.
dchill
(38,489 posts)Didn't stop her from strong arming the convention though, did it?
I'm scared for my country. We all should be.
riversedge
(70,216 posts)others for their vile behavior!!
dchill
(38,489 posts)G. Zuss.
JPnoodleman
(454 posts)How many people get nasty troll messages a day? How much ever comes from that?
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)There is no walking away.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)If someone sends me a message cryptically telling me they know where my girlfriend works I'm calling the law.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)All this phony delicacy is tiresome
The ones who have acted out shouldn't have gotten carried away. The ones running the meeting should have been more accommodating. A shitty situation resulted.
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End of story.
You'd best be prepared to have your delicate sensibilities assaulted in a regular basis if Clinton goes up against Trump..... Bernie and his supporters will seem like pink fluffy bunnies by comparison
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I don't think fans get the cell phone numbers of the refs and threaten their lives and the lives of their grandchildren, do you ?
Armstead
(47,803 posts)I'm not defending anyone behaving like that....But in anything involving millions of people there are gong to be some bad apples in the bunch
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Even the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy folk.
I dread watching the GE matchup. Trump has pretty much revealed all of his "baggage" and done what he usually does...bluster right on through it. And what is different this time that was not nearly as much as before, is the social media/internet aspect.
She's from the time when you could pretty much get away, as most politicians were wont to do, and say different things to different groups. Mitt Romney broke through that glass ceiling with his famous 47% comment. Now it's got to be closed door and secret speeches sans transcripts.
I don't think there is a lot more out there on Trump, but betwen her transcripts and the Clinton Foundation...she's not been "vetted" on that, if one means scrutiny by an opposition candidate. The MSM has been easy on her on thoses matters.
HRC is not used to such blatant frontal attack. Even the Benghazi hearings marathon were carried out with polite decorum, as I recall.
The Republican Hate Machine has never had this golden opportunity, and I don't think it bodes well.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Should be easy to ID and arrest those violent 'BernieBros'... though it might be rather embarrassing when they turn out to be Brocks trolls.
MrWendel
(1,881 posts)a Noun, Blame it on Brock.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Delegates had to be registered Dems by a certain date. About 60 of Bernie supporters were not.
riversedge
(70,216 posts)I might help.
peace13
(11,076 posts)...then we can talk.
pressbox69
(2,252 posts)need to speak out against it.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)If you expect condemnation in there, you may be disappointed.
Stuckinthebush
(10,845 posts)His 15 minutes are almost over
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)monmouth4
(9,705 posts)apnu
(8,756 posts)Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)apnu
(8,756 posts)Thanks for clearing that up.
I'll be sure to bring that up at my next table top game when some hauls out a rules book. I'm sure that will go over wonderfully.
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)apnu
(8,756 posts)Therefore you must approve. If you don't approve say so plainly.
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)In the meantime, this oh-so-carefully crafted narrative from the Hillarites about the mean old Bernie Bros can take a long walk off a short pier.
apnu
(8,756 posts)changing the subject, isn't going to give you an escape.
Are you against cyberbullying, "yes" or "no" is the only answer you need to give. You choose to continue to dodge around.
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)Will the secret notation police be coming after me in the night?
apnu
(8,756 posts)Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)You and others. Can you stay on subject? I doubt it.
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)Just another notch in your keyboard, eh Captain Internetx0rs?
bvf
(6,604 posts)This cheap, manufactured hand-wringing is amusing to see, though.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Resignation solves both problems.
apnu
(8,756 posts)It gives the bully what they want. The threats have happened and her family is not and forever scarred. That bell can never be rung.
Her actions at the convention and the death threats are two separate issues.
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)I don't think anything of someone claiming to be bullied via electrons over a data connection.
I also note her "fear" didn't keep her from shady shenanigans including an early vote rules change.
She sounds like one of the weak ass bullies I've had the misfortune of dealing with crying when the folks she wants to push around even grumble about pushing back.
"Cyberbulling" is a complaint that I'd imagine anyone who actually took beatings and was persecuted real life rolls their eyes to at least a bit.
apnu
(8,756 posts)Not all violence is physical. I have dealt with and lived with both.
Whatever her actions were, none of this kind of abuse is acceptable. Its akin to blaming the victim. As liberals we're better than that.
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)when she gets pushback. If she is so "afraid" now she was sure brassy when she was leading shenanigans and running over citizens so what happened to all that tough and bluster?
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)At the Democratic office, where she has a phone for people to call her about how the party's affairs are conducted...
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)...would serve its own interests better if it were to figure out a way to welcome people...it would behoove the part to be more welcoming..."
Oh really?
How does one sincerely welcome those that (1) bite the hand that proffers the welcoming handshake, (2) has insulted and continues to insult Hillary (3) provides a very, very clear and vocal message that Hillary will never get their vote?
How does one welcome those people without subjugating the platform of the winner to their every single whim, as they have been demanding? How would the Bernie crowd be more welcoming if the roles were reversed?
ThePhilosopher04
(1,732 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Will never make it to the WH.
Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)SO glad he will NEVER take a breath in the oval office.
JCanete
(5,272 posts)The beauty of this lame-ass argument is that if Bernie supporters try to point out obvious misrepresentation via hearsay or anecdotal evidence, or we try to point out the fucking obvious reality that there is an establishment agenda and preferred candidate, and that it is actively working to seat that candidate, then we aren't taking responsibility or we're making excuses for not winning. For once, why not actually refute the meat of our claims rather than going straight for the dismissal.
I'll take a shot in the dark about your reasons. It's because your intent isn't to shed light on these issues, or to learn or educate. It's only to sell a meme.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)People who commit crimes or do unethical things sometimes will get unpleasantness in return if they are found out or exposed. Yea, it sucks, but they shouldn't do the crime or the unethical thing in the first place.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)One Black Sheep
(458 posts)Many criminals get hate mail and angry mobs talking hate about them, such as Ted Bundy or other notorious criminals...should I feel sorry for them when they get hate mail?
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)a part of such an undemocratic, shady, corrupt. The thought of anyone feeling threatened by Bernie supporters is
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)taught_me_patience
(5,477 posts)and pathetic. I'm shocked to read some of this vitriol on DU.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)It has been going on for months.
I guess I'm more shocked that it has been allowed to continue.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)You never fail to fail.
all american girl
(1,788 posts)or she had too much to drink, or that her skirt was too short, or that she should have known better. This attitude about death threats to a person, threatening her family, harassing her place of employment is all the same. This shit is real, and blaming the victim is disgusting. You wouldn't stand for it if it was coming from Trump supporters, so why do you condone it from people doing it in Bernie's name?
pressbox69
(2,252 posts)we might end up with Bernie's Brownshirts vs. Trump's Tramps.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)Ash_F
(5,861 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Ash_F
(5,861 posts)That said, I did not say the behavior is justified. It is a pretty good argument for having an orderly government that follows its own rules, though.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Lots of aggrieved people feel they have the right to take the law into their own hands. That we don't let them prevents us from having the law of the jungle.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)The law is a teacher.
apnu
(8,756 posts)Which hasn't held its primary yet.
Also this isn't about government, its about the Democratic Party and its policies and practices. Which are poor, to be sure, but they aren't government in any way or form.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)When the Democratic party can pick the leader of the country, they are effectively part of the government and should be subject to just and due process.
apnu
(8,756 posts)Woah, gonna have to read up on that one.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)I guess it depends on your definition of diversity
hysterical.
pressbox69
(2,252 posts)the original brownshirts had some excuse.
AgerolanAmerican
(1,000 posts)LexVegas
(6,060 posts)floriduck
(2,262 posts)I'm not aware of the 2008 incident. I'm just repeating what a panelist said on Brook Baldwins show.
DebDoo
(319 posts)Ash_F
(5,861 posts)She is making at least 100k
Her kids will be fine.
Also might explain the iron-fisted behavior.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...and now they're oh, so distraught that there are consequences.
Yes, it is very, very bad for anyone to make threats over this. Anyone who made actual threats should be prosecuted IMO, I don't care who they support.
But the DNC knew what they were doing, not following their own damned rules and running roughshod over Bernie's supporters at the caucus. They could have followed, I repeat, THEIR OWN DAMNED RULES, and this would not have gotten out of hand.
Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)Sending death threats is never ok.
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