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Wed May 18, 2016, 06:57 PM

I believe the clearest explanation for the Clinton campaign's actions in NV and the ratfucking of

The left is:
They have decided that they can not win.
They are acknowledging that they will have to STEAL it.
Their MO is going to be BLATANT and unapologetic.
Watch as more votes disappear or are switched before your eyes.

They will do it right before your eyes and act like you are the problem.

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Reply I believe the clearest explanation for the Clinton campaign's actions in NV and the ratfucking of (Original post)
Vincardog May 2016 OP
YouDig May 2016 #1
msongs May 2016 #2
merrily May 2016 #27
Skinner May 2016 #3
Metric System May 2016 #38
Fresh_Start May 2016 #4
Vincardog May 2016 #14
Fresh_Start May 2016 #21
Vincardog May 2016 #23
Fresh_Start May 2016 #26
Vincardog May 2016 #29
Fresh_Start May 2016 #33
Renew Deal May 2016 #5
silvershadow May 2016 #6
nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #7
obamanut2012 May 2016 #10
nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #11
SidDithers May 2016 #32
nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #34
SidDithers May 2016 #35
nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #37
SidDithers May 2016 #41
PeaceNikki May 2016 #8
Vincardog May 2016 #16
PeaceNikki May 2016 #18
Vincardog May 2016 #20
PeaceNikki May 2016 #24
Vincardog May 2016 #25
PeaceNikki May 2016 #28
obamanut2012 May 2016 #9
Vincardog May 2016 #17
Dem2 May 2016 #12
Starry Messenger May 2016 #13
TwilightZone May 2016 #15
alcibiades_mystery May 2016 #19
anotherproletariat May 2016 #22
HereSince1628 May 2016 #30
nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #36
BeyondGeography May 2016 #31
mindwalker_i May 2016 #39
All in it together May 2016 #40

Response to Vincardog (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 06:58 PM

1. Why would they think they can't win? Have you looked at the delegate count?

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Response to Vincardog (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 06:59 PM

2. nice for a laugh. it was the sanders crowd doing all the dirty deeds the other day nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #2)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:41 PM

27. Were you there?

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Response to Vincardog (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:02 PM

3. Sigh.

She has a commanding lead.

Even if she were inclined to "steal it" -- which she isn't -- there is no reason for her to do that. The entire premise of your OP is wrong.

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Response to Skinner (Reply #3)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:54 PM

38. +1000.

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Response to Vincardog (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:02 PM

4. I believe that the clearest explanation for the Sanderss campaigns actions in NV and the ratfucking

of the voters is:

They have decided that they can not win.
They are acknowledging that they will have to STEAL it.
Their MO is going to be BLATANT and unapologetic.
Watch as more votes disappear or are switched before your eyes.

They will do it right before your eyes and act like you are the problem


Works equally well pointing at the Sanders campaign.
Clinton won Nevada in February.
Clinton lost the county caucus
Clinton won the state caucus.

The win at the state caucus was not dispute-able
More Clinton delegates showed up than Sanders delegates.
The counts were confirmed by a bipartisan credentials committee.
The committee was composed of equal numbers of sanders and clinton supporters.


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Response to Fresh_Start (Reply #4)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:17 PM

14. The credentials committee kept 64 Bernie delegates out to give HRC a 30 delegate lead CHEATING

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Response to Vincardog (Reply #14)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:31 PM

21. wrong: they kept 58 sanders delegates and 8? clinton delegates out

using the same rules for both groups of delegates.

and the rules were previously disclosed rules..and have been in place since 2012.

why can't sanders supporters ever follow the rules?

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Response to Fresh_Start (Reply #21)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:34 PM

23. The rules in place since 2012 allowed delegates to challenge why they were denied. The chair denied

them this opportunity. That is why the delegates were so upset. Watch the video. I will accept you apology later.

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Response to Vincardog (Reply #23)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:40 PM

26. no, the chair did not deny them the right to challenge

and some of them (64-58) did challenge and were allowed to participate as delegates.
Most of the others didn't even show up to challenge the decision.

The video doesn't show that because the video did not contain the credential committees work.
Keep lying to yourself

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Response to Fresh_Start (Reply #26)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:43 PM

29. You are entitled to your opinion not your own facts. Fact is they stole it for HRC on tape. Get

Over it.

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Response to Vincardog (Reply #29)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:49 PM

33. The fact is that Clinton won Nevada in February...

and sanders tried to intimidate the state convention but it didn't work.
you are not entitled to your own facts.
The bipartisan committee determined which delegates could serve: and more clinton delegates passed the rules.

If only sanders delegates had shown up...or had been legitimate and didn't try to throw the democratic party under the bus by promptly changing their party registration, they would have won.

Looks like sanders supporters should be hounding their 350+ delegates that didn't bother to show up.

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Response to Vincardog (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:03 PM

5. Maybe Bernie is just losing

Crazy huh?

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Response to Vincardog (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:07 PM

6. Kick for truth. They have been doing so during The Great Coast to Coast

 

Disenfranchisement Tour this entire primary season. Ever since the wheels fell of the bus at the first of the year.

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Response to Vincardog (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:08 PM

7. Well I don't care who "wins" the nomination

 

at this point, It is so blatant that I do not consider it legitimate, I will pretend to fill a ballot, and I expect that vote to go wherever the central tabulator decides it belongs. Earlier in the day I even joked that they might give it to a Republcians, never mind that is actually a closed primary, but nothing would surprise me anymore. And in November, I don't expect it to actually count as cast either.

So who am I voting for? Whoever the damn powers that be want me to vote for. At least give me a coke and a torta. damn it. These days it is a spending card... by the way. Yes, it is that blatant

But it is bad enough that I now have joined the millions who consider voting a waste of time. I will just do ti because I am too stubborn.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #7)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:11 PM

10. lolz

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #10)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:12 PM

11. I agree with you, it is hilarious

 



Please tip the staff on your way out.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #7)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:48 PM

32. Sure you don't...



Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #32)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:50 PM

34. So who did you vote in your elections?

 

and were hurt when Harper lost?

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #34)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:51 PM

35. I voted for John Oliver...nt

Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #35)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:53 PM

37. I guess our friends from the UK

 

are running in Canadian elections



Good to know. I learn stuff every day here.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #37)

Wed May 18, 2016, 09:45 PM

41. Once again displaying the expert research skills...

that led you to report 6 feet of hail in Mexico City (or was it a 60cm meter?). and Jay Polk had been killed in Syria.

http://www.parl.gc.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/John-Oliver(88881)

Well done.

Sid

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Response to Vincardog (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:10 PM

8. Your "explicantion" (SIC) is full baseless conspiracy theories.

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Response to PeaceNikki (Reply #8)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:21 PM

16. You explain why they are hating on the left.

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Response to Vincardog (Reply #16)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:24 PM

18. Uuummm... I'm not.

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Response to PeaceNikki (Reply #18)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:30 PM

20. So your reply is baseless opinion. I am good with that.

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Response to Vincardog (Reply #20)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:38 PM

24. Your OP is baseless conspiracy theory. That's a fact. There's no evidence of fraud.

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Response to PeaceNikki (Reply #24)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:40 PM

25. Watch the video. Appologize to me after. Thank you

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Response to Vincardog (Reply #25)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:42 PM

28. There's no video in your OP.

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Response to Vincardog (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:10 PM

9. Thanks for the OP!

I had a busy day at work, and needed the

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #9)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:23 PM

17. Your welcome

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Response to Vincardog (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:14 PM

12. You are very concerned.

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Response to Vincardog (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:16 PM

13. I echo Skinner's sigh.

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Response to Vincardog (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:18 PM

15. "They have decided that they can not win."

Clinton is about 1/4 of California's delegates away from winning the nomination.

Your assertion doesn't make any logical sense.

"They are acknowledging that they will have to STEAL it. "

Such as trying to get more delegates than the winner of a caucus by subverting the will of the people?

Yeah, I suppose that could be considered stealing. Except that was your guy.

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Response to Vincardog (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:27 PM

19. yes, how could Clinton possibly win 270 delegates ahead with six states to go

 



Sandersism in a nutshell in the OP.

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Response to Vincardog (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:31 PM

22. Yes you are totally right. Now please go see a therapist before you hurt someone. nt

 

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Response to Vincardog (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:43 PM

30. Look it's not rocket science, it -IS- Shock Doctrine...they need an enemy on the LEFT

to enable them to move freely to the RIGHT.

Those dangerous Bernie Bros and Bobs are just the ticket! HRC really CANNOT go to them, THEY are FORCING HER!!! to go to the republicans.

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Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #30)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:51 PM

36. BINGO

 

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Response to Vincardog (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:44 PM

31. Oy

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Response to Vincardog (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:56 PM

39. I have to disagree, in that Hillary has more delegates

She can almost certainly win at this point. Are you saying that there has been cheating the whole way through? There might have been, and some evidence exists, but not enough to make the claim decisively.

What's interesting is that, even though she has been winning, they had to pull all that shit in NV. That very much seems like it could really piss off a ot of people and further damage her chances in the GE. It almost seems like an emotional reaction to people who don't support her, as in, how dare they?!

That, more than anything, raises a lot of red flags as to Hillary's suitability to be president.

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Response to Vincardog (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 08:12 PM

40. Hillary is too much like Nixon, can't help herself?

He would have won without cheating but he couldn't help himself and cheated (had his guys break into the Watergate) anyway. Ohhhh, there are enemies all around.

I'm not sure if she can win with or without cheating.

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