2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumParty unity is never 100%. There are ways to increase unity and ways to expand the divide.
Assume Hillary is the nominee. If there is meaningful party rules reform, a progressive platform, a ticket with a progressive VP nominee, and a useful roll for the FDR-Sanders-Warren wing of the party at the convention and beyond, there will be a greater degree of unity.
If DWS and lobbyists continue to have dominance at the DNC, if the platform is all double-talk and centrist pablum, if the VP nominee is a neocon or a neoliberal, and if the HRC-DWS wing of FDR's party freezes out the FDR-Sanders-Warren wing of the party at the convention and beyond, there will still be some unity but not as much.
Regardless of whether Hillary is nominated, the movement led by Sanders will go forward; the question is whether it goes on within the Democratic Party or parallel to the Democratic Party.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Vote2016
(1,198 posts)worried about my local ballot. I'm worried that DWS is creating a clusterfuck for Philadelphia and there is nobody capable or strong-willed enough to stop it.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)The convention will go as planned as it does every prez election.
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(1,198 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)telling off young whippersnappers since the dawn of Third Way.
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(1,198 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Vote2016
(1,198 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)The attitude right now from DWS is STFU, we are changing the rules so this will NOT happen - and where else ya gonna go, suckers?!
SamKnause
(13,110 posts)There will not be another election campaign like this.
They will tighten control of social media.
Voter suppression laws will increase.
The DNC will change their rules to prevent a repeat.
Bernie has proven what can be accomplished without the
global corporations, the CEO's, Wall Street, lobbyists, and
big oil and gas.
He has gotten further then anyone could have dreamed, including
Bernie himself.
The establishment will never let this happen again.
Vote2016
(1,198 posts)distinction is giving way to a populist-elitist distinction.
Trump will define Hillary as the candidate of the elite (with Hillary's complicity) and will try to take the mantle of the populist. This will not play out well for us in 2016 and beyond.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Without the old restraints and usual channels.
I can't see how they muzzle social media which has been crucial for fundraising, networking, GOTV, and organizing participants.
I have wondered at the almost frantic insistence here and from the Clintons and the DNC that Bernie will not win11!!!1 I think they know old partisan methods are finished. Its the 99% v the 1%ers. The establishment v the rest of us. The growing number of Independents v the parties etc etc.
If they try to stuff this genie back in the bottle there's going to be enormous blowback.
SamKnause
(13,110 posts)We police our country like we police the world.
Any leftist movement is ALWAYS quashed.
Not only quashed in this country, but we quash
leftist movements all over the globe.
The U.S. is not what it advertises itself to be.
It crushed me when I came to that realization !!!
I have cried many times since learning the true history of my country.
I was so grateful when Bernie mentioned some of our history
in the debates.
Vote2016
(1,198 posts)the "criminal element" she's been warning us about much less Republicans in congress or world leaders with an anti-American agenda.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)2banon
(7,321 posts)Thank you.