# 2016 Postmortem

Related: About this forum# Vote fraud, black box voting, electoral shenanigans this primary

So I finally found someone who studied this carefully:

https://medium.com/@spencergundert/hillary-clinton-and-electoral-fraud-992ad9e080f6#.4pt8efrq8

I haven't gone over it with a fine-tooth comb, but it does indicate prima facie shenanigans.

So why hasn't this gotten more attention?

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#### bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)#### JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)#### Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)In the piece?

#### JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)... to prove them false.

Its all conspiracy theory nonsense until you can being forth actual verifiable evidence, not speculation, innuendo and hearsay.

doesn't even cover what I feel, and I will bet you a c-note that I am not the only one that is pissed off at the party right now.

Rubbing salt in the wound like you are doing isn't helping, either, JoePhilly.

#### JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)... are so very very mean.

Of course Bernie supporters can call Hillary and her supporters anything they want ... and its all justified.

#### Aerows

(39,961 posts)Good grief. That's silly even for you!

#### JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)The level of projection coming from some Bernie folks is really striking.

#### Aerows

(39,961 posts)my head would likely explode due to irony.

Thankfully, my cranium is in tact.

#### Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)#### nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)This will be ignored

#### nc4bo

(17,651 posts)#### JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)#### Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)#### Aerows

(39,961 posts)that I can barely even think of pulling the lever for the batch of assholes we have running.

I think I can finally identify with Republicans that said "I didn't leave my party, my party left me."

I know exactly how they felt now.

#### Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)and trying to get them out of power.

#### Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)leadership willfully embraces them and adapts the party policies to reflect this right wing cohort.

Join the Revolution for Democracy to reclaim the Democratic party and to return our country to democracy from the blood soaked grasp of oligarchy.

Vote with your body - July 23-25 Philadelphia PA.

#### workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)#### Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)but there is good evidence of vote fraud.

I'm sure you're ok with Hillary rigging the machines, but what if Trump manages to do it?

#### RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)#### Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)#### Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)see how that works.

immediately offending someone

automatically

puts them on defensive.

brilliant strategy.

#### scscholar

(2,902 posts)The Republicans have destroyed our right to vote.

#### reformist2

(9,841 posts)#### Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)It's very odd.

#### reformist2

(9,841 posts)that election fraud can and does happen in America... and that it's not just the "other side" that does it.

#### Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)#### Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)#### reformist2

(9,841 posts)What this primary season has showed is that it doesn't even matter if you have the numbers behind you - if the "machine" is working against you, throwing out ballots and erasing your voters from the registration, they can steal any election they want. In the end, the army of corrupt bureaucrats is more valuable than any campaign war chest.

#### Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)but this Facebook group is a good resource:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/elecinteg/

#### Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)PART 1: VOTES ARE BEING COUNTED AS FRACTIONS INSTEAD OF AS WHOLE NUMBERS

http://blackboxvoting.org/fraction-magic-1/

#### antigop

(12,778 posts)1) Has never written a computer program in his/her life.

or

2) Didn't learn anything from the class.

#### Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)#### Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)#### Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)Though "vote fraud" is different from "voter fraud"

#### Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)or this is too much of a "conspiracy theory" for people?