2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCBS State Poll Ohio and Florida May 22: Tight race between Trump and Clinton. Sanders doing better.
CBS Battleground Tracker Poll: Ohio and Florida show tight races
By Anthony Salvanto, Fred Backus, Sarah Dutton and Jennifer De Pinto
May 22, 2016
In Florida, a hypothetical matchup between Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton and presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump shows Clinton with a one-point edge among those with a preference, 43-42, and in Ohio, Clinton leads Trump by five at 44-39. A hypothetical matchup in Florida shows a tie between Democrat Bernie Sanders and Trump at 44 percent apiece, while in Ohio, Sanders enjoys a larger nine-point edge over Trump 48-39.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/battleground-poll-ohio-and-florida-show-tight-races-donald-trump-hillary-clinton/
GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)So she can have it. You know: just HAVE it.
Don't forget: she has earned it. It is hers and hers alone!
MisterP
(23,730 posts)than your own comes first"
they want to see Sanders defeated and get a vicarious thrill out of seeing her beaming/smirking at the con
what happens afterwards they already blame 100% on Sanders supporters anyway, so they have no reason to change a jot or tittle of their political thinking
(N.B.: this doesn't apply to people supporting Clinton out of personal connection, "experience," or name recognition)
CountAllVotes
(20,868 posts)When will they WAKE UP and smell the coffee?
Sanders 2016!!
& recommend!!
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
griffi94
(3,733 posts)Irrelevent but still interesting.
Trump seems to have gotten a bounce when
he got the lock on the nomination.
Probably our nominee will as well.
senz
(11,945 posts)Unless the presidency doesn't really matter?
griffi94
(3,733 posts)Since the Democratic primaries are not winner take all
there aren't enough contests left for him to make up
his deficit in pledged delegates.
I still think our nominee will get a bounce.
Trumps is from some of Cruzs supporters going to Trump
since Cruz dropped out.
Our nominee will get the same.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)It's going to be an ugly General if she gets the nom and I truly think it's a horrible matchup for Dems. Bernie could win this, but the establishment is doing everything in their considerable power to keep that from happening.
senz
(11,945 posts)seems sad and unhinged. I hope they wake up.
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)3+ Million less votes than Hillary
Less Delegates than Hillary
No chance of winning the nomination
Let's hug it out. It's over for Bernie.
The same people predicting a Trump win in November, are the same people that said Bernie will win the nomination. Wrong all the time. They said Bernie will win New York, Illinois, Ohio,Florida, Kentucky, Iowa, etc. They were wrong.
senz
(11,945 posts)Just "hug it out," put the inferior candidate up there (making the hearts of all her fans go pitty pat) and then hand the presidency to Trump.
You know perfectly well that your candidate's mediocre showing is based on years of stacking the deck in her favor, intimidating everyone in D.C. acquiring crooked compromised wealth -- before she even knew what the hell her platform would be. So she had other people write it up for her. That is an empty, empty candidate, a Stepford candidate.
Bernie came along with no name recognition, no money, no political power, just a habit of speaking the truth -- and gave your created candidate a huge run for her money.
And she's still running scared, so now you want Bernie to drop out?
Nah. Go hug yourself.
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)As far as wanting Bernie to drop out. That's his decision. As long as his campaign is churning money for Tad Devine's bank account, he's going to continue to run.
You are welcome to donate another $27 to Bernie (Tad's retirement fund).
senz
(11,945 posts)I'm beginning to feel sorry for you and your candidate.
We've got the real thing. Eat your heart out.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)Iowa - prediction Clinton +4, result +0.3 (semi-open caucus)
New York - prediction Clinton +21.7, result Clinton +15.9 (closed primary)
Illinois - prediction Clinton +2.3, result +1.8 (open primary)
Kentucky - Clinton +5, result +0.5 (closed primary)
Florida - prediction Clinton +28.9, result +31.2 (closed primary)
Ohio - prediction Clinton +8, result +13.8 (semi-open primary)
From what I can see, there were no predictions that Sanders would win those states - although he did better than predicted in 4/6. Ohio is a bit of an outlier, as many indies voted for Kasich to thwart Trump.
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)Come on now. You knew who I was referring too. Hugs.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)Just as long as your candidate can maybe get the nom because "it's her turn" and who cares what happens after that?
Todays_Illusion
(1,209 posts)doing this well.
Here is why: http://www.c-span.org/video/?400380-1/discussion-2016-presidential-election
Where the need to controll the polling for the 2016 campaign is discussed, Nov. 2015.