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SoS rules (Original Post) aspirant May 2016 OP
What DNC convention rules could and/or should he break? nt firebrand80 May 2016 #1
Does that include violence? Cause if it does, hurting others will get you jail time. MoonRiver May 2016 #2
You mean like throwing chairs? aspirant May 2016 #4
Maybe, if those chairs are aimed at somebody. MoonRiver May 2016 #5
Then they are laws, beyond rules aspirant May 2016 #9
Exactly! MoonRiver May 2016 #13
Did Hills break FOIA laws? aspirant May 2016 #14
She did not attack people violently. So WTH are you talking about? MoonRiver May 2016 #16
Rules vs laws aspirant May 2016 #18
You are implying that Bernie supporters can do whatever at the DNC convention, MoonRiver May 2016 #19
The IG report says she "violated the rules" aspirant May 2016 #20
Huh? MoonRiver May 2016 #22
Maybe this aspirant May 2016 #24
Ichingcarpenter? Bwahaha! MoonRiver May 2016 #25
Look no one should engage in any form of violence -- and the Sanders delegates have not karynnj May 2016 #8
Anyone they choose, just like Hills aspirant May 2016 #3
Two wrongs..... cali May 2016 #6
Should both wrongs be punishable? aspirant May 2016 #12
I'm a Bernie supporter and I disagree with this. riderinthestorm May 2016 #7
I agree - his message to his home state's convention was completely honorable karynnj May 2016 #10
Why wouldn't Hills be "completely honorable" at SoS aspirant May 2016 #11
Maybe that's what the FBI will ask her. pdsimdars May 2016 #15
The FBI will get to ask her, the SoS IG was ignored by Hills aspirant May 2016 #17
Oh. So scary! Beausoir May 2016 #21
Is rule breaking at the DNC convention frightening? aspirant May 2016 #23
Does rule breaking make Boxer feel un-safe? pdsimdars May 2016 #26
Just how unruly can you get? aspirant May 2016 #27
I think you may hear people yelling . . . . . at a political convention. . . . eeeeek! pdsimdars May 2016 #28
I hope yelling isn't against the rules aspirant May 2016 #29

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
2. Does that include violence? Cause if it does, hurting others will get you jail time.
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:41 PM
May 2016

Some of you fanatics need to think about this, very carefully.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
19. You are implying that Bernie supporters can do whatever at the DNC convention,
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:08 PM
May 2016

which I take to mean violence, because Hillary was not in complete compliance with rules that were not even fully enacted. This is hardly an accurate analogy. THAT is what I'm talking about.

aspirant

(3,533 posts)
20. The IG report says she "violated the rules"
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:16 PM
May 2016

but did she also break FOIA laws?

Does breaking rules not always result in breaking laws, is that Hills argument here?

aspirant

(3,533 posts)
24. Maybe this
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:26 PM
May 2016

Ichingcarpenter (36,808 posts)
7. It's called a prima facie case: clear on the basis of known facts.

Hillary Rodham Clinton has committed a felony. That is apparent from the facts and in the plain-language of the federal statute that prohibits "Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information", 18 U.S. Code § 793(e) and (f). This offense carries a potential penalty of ten years imprisonment.

It's up to prosecutorial discretion by the US Attorney as to what charges may be filed and when. Nonetheless, Mrs. Clinton is clearly chargeable for violation of federal law. As of right now, the matter is under FBI investigation. This isn't just about violation of Departmental policy.

Secretary Clinton was trained in handling of classified materials, and acknowledges that she understood them. By transmitting and receiving email correspondence that contained information gleaned from foreign government sources on an unauthorized, insecure system, she violated the law. This was not something she did unwittingly, and that the foreign government sourced material was not stamped classified is irrelevant.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
8. Look no one should engage in any form of violence -- and the Sanders delegates have not
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:46 PM
May 2016

done anything violent -- unless you consider it violent verbal abuse to criticize HRC.

I take issue with "some of YOU fanatics".

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
7. I'm a Bernie supporter and I disagree with this.
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:45 PM
May 2016

I expect Bernie to be completely honorable at the Democratic convention.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
10. I agree - his message to his home state's convention was completely honorable
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:49 PM
May 2016

Not to mention, The VT convention was as polite and well behaved as anyone could ask for. Of course, the seats at the Barre Opera House were not movable - but no one even thew paper!

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