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imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:18 PM Jun 2016

Sanders: "I Just saw Hillary and Bill Racing To California. Maybe they think campaign isn't over"



'This Campaign Is Not Over': Polls Show Dead Heat in California
New poll also finds Sanders ahead of Clinton among 'potential Democratic electorate'
by Nika Knight, staff writer
June 2, 2016


The Field poll (pdf), released Thursday, found Clinton leading Sanders by a mere two points—within the survey's margin of error. Clinton had the support of 45 percent of the Democratic voters polled, and Sanders had 43 percent. Clinton's lead in the state has shrunk from a whopping 50 points to today's statistical tie with Sanders, as previous polls also captured.

Meanwhile, a NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Marist poll published Wednesday found Sanders beating Clinton by one point when the potential Democratic electorate was surveyed, instead of only voters registered as Democrats:



Sanders has been attracting enormous crowds at rallies throughout California in the lead-up to Tuesday's primary, sending Clinton scrambling to try to regain her once-formidable lead in the delegate-rich state.

"I read the newspapers, and they all said the campaign is over. But suddenly I just saw Hillary Clinton racing to California, Bill Clinton racing to California," Sanders said in Palo Alto on Wednesday. "Maybe they think this campaign is not over. And I agree with them. We are going to win here in California, we are going to win many of the other states up on June 7, we are going to leave California with enormous momentum going into the convention, and I believe we've got a real shot to come out of that convention with the Democratic nomination for president of the United States."

Sanders has noted the tremendous amount of support his campaign has received from young people, telling the Palo Alto crowd that he hopes they feel "enormously gratified [that] our message in this campaign, of creating a nation and a vision based on social justice, economic justice, racial justice, and environmental justice, that whether Donald Trump likes it or not, whether Hillary Clinton likes it or not—that is the future vision of this country."



Bernie Sanders Rally in Palo Alto, California



Bernie Sanders Davis California Rally

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/06/02/campaign-not-over-polls-show-dead-heat-california
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Sanders: "I Just saw Hillary and Bill Racing To California. Maybe they think campaign isn't over" (Original Post) imagine2015 Jun 2016 OP
I don't see Bernie in NJ firebrand80 Jun 2016 #1
I just saw Bernie and Jane not racing to New Jersey...maybe they think it's hopeless... brooklynite Jun 2016 #2
If you would like to equate the two SheenaR Jun 2016 #4
I'll certainly acknowledge that California is bigger than NJ...but Sanders needs both brooklynite Jun 2016 #5
He is tossing NJ....No question. SheenaR Jun 2016 #8
He's very unlikely to get NJ, whether he does more campaigning there or not. thesquanderer Jun 2016 #16
I'm sure we'll all hear about how racist it was of him to ignore NJ. frylock Jun 2016 #21
Luckily (?) for him, CA is pretty diverse. thesquanderer Jun 2016 #24
I thought the same about Hillary and Oregon. NWCorona Jun 2016 #15
30 events in 5 days for the Clintons SheenaR Jun 2016 #3
A clear act of desperation. Don't be so quick to declare the General Election has begun. imagine2015 Jun 2016 #6
I'm on your side there. I think it's funny that they are getting nervous SheenaR Jun 2016 #9
Because this is about more than the primaries. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #7
I don't buy it SheenaR Jun 2016 #12
This. frylock Jun 2016 #22
and no debate ... MisterP Jun 2016 #10
Every ad run and at every event she is taking about Trump. bettyellen Jun 2016 #17
Ok, I'll go by your theory then SheenaR Jun 2016 #18
She is talking about the GE wherever she goes- where she is doesn't matter as much as what she says bettyellen Jun 2016 #19
K & R AzDar Jun 2016 #11
Bernie flatters himself. Lil Missy Jun 2016 #13
. Rex Jun 2016 #14
I wonder how much difference their "events" will make. One reporter on Thom Hartmann said pdsimdars Jun 2016 #20
The real campaign is just beginning. MineralMan Jun 2016 #23

firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
1. I don't see Bernie in NJ
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:22 PM
Jun 2016

which he needs to work hard to at least keep close to have a shot at winning. Maybe he knows it's over.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
8. He is tossing NJ....No question.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:33 PM
Jun 2016

It's a waste of his time. He will not win there. And I agree with the strategy. A win in California would dwarf any loss he has elsewhere.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
16. He's very unlikely to get NJ, whether he does more campaigning there or not.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:54 PM
Jun 2016

It's a closed primary, much of it is practically a suburb of New York City which he lost badly (though NJ doesn't have the ridiculous requirement of having had to declare your party affiliation 6 months ahead of time).

To some extent, it might be a zero sum game... any delegates he might pick up by campaigning more in NJ could be offset by delegate he might lose by campaigning less in CA.

But beyond the delegate count, there's the PR of winning a state. Right now, I think he wants to try as hard as he can to win CA, and everything else is secondary. He could spend a bunch of time in NJ, maybe pick up some delegates, but would still probably lose the state... and that time away from CA would make it harder to win that one. Much better win one of the two than neither of them. So I think it's all about trying to get CA into the win column. He's got the better shot there, and it's got more delegates, besides.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
24. Luckily (?) for him, CA is pretty diverse.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 04:40 PM
Jun 2016

Though also, he didn't completely ignore NJ. He did have at least two rallies.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
6. A clear act of desperation. Don't be so quick to declare the General Election has begun.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:32 PM
Jun 2016

The GE doesn't begin until the Democratic Party decides who it wants to run for President and Vice-President.

That's up in the air since neither Hillary nor Bernie can win the 2,383 pledged delegates they need to secure the nomination before the convention.

It will be a contested convention.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
7. Because this is about more than the primaries.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:33 PM
Jun 2016

The race doesn't end when Clinton is named the presumptive nominee next week. The more-important race is just starting.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
12. I don't buy it
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:35 PM
Jun 2016

Trump would never win California. This is about optics. A loss here to a so called guy who is done would look awful.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
17. Every ad run and at every event she is taking about Trump.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 02:54 PM
Jun 2016

So yeah, she is running against Donald now- just like Bernie hoped to with that debate.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
18. Ok, I'll go by your theory then
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 03:30 PM
Jun 2016

If she is in fact blitzing CA on June 2 for the GE, in a state that should be a slam dunk in the GE, then we have more to worry about than semantics. There's no way they are doing 30 events for the GE at this juncture.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
19. She is talking about the GE wherever she goes- where she is doesn't matter as much as what she says
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 03:40 PM
Jun 2016

A huge part of her time now is also involved in NJ and a lot more fundraising before she goes on a blitz of swing states. Strategy!

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
20. I wonder how much difference their "events" will make. One reporter on Thom Hartmann said
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 03:56 PM
Jun 2016

she went to a Hillary event and there were 400-500 people. And we all see the pictures of Bernies events with THOUSANDS of people.

Geez, I wonder where the momentum and enthusiasm are? Hmmmmmmmmmm

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
23. The real campaign is just beginning.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 04:40 PM
Jun 2016

Hillary gave a general election campaign speech today in California. Maybe you heard it.

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