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pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 03:24 PM Jun 2016

Cesar Chavez's son says his father would have supported Hillary.

And that his mother has already voted her, and that she'd be walking the precincts for Hillary if she could.

This is in reaction to a son-in-law claiming in campaign rallies that Chavez would have voted for Sanders.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/adriancarrasquillo/cesar-chavezs-son-not-true-that-my-father-would-have-support?utm_term=.koab0YvxD#.pwxvpYqDe

Villarino told the crowd if he was alive today, Chavez would support Sanders for president.
That energetic proclamation did not sit well with Paul Chavez, Cesar Chavez’s son and president of the Cesar Chavez Foundation, who told BuzzFeed News the family largely supports Hillary Clinton.

“The fact of the matter is most of us in the family that continue to work closely in the movement that my father began strongly support the candidacy of Hillary,” he said.

Paul Chavez said that support goes up to his mother, Helen Chavez, 88, who is in the hospital fighting an infection. Nevertheless, he said his mother has asked his sister to talk to him about running public service announcements for Clinton, urging people to get out to vote.

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Still, Paul Chavez called his father a “practical idealist” who would have seen a lot to like in Clinton’s worldview.

“He believed this country was big enough and great enough to offer its share of bounty to all of us, but he also knew you had to go to work everyday and provide results on a daily basis,” Paul Chavez said, before pointing to Clinton’s work for immigration policy, collective bargaining for farmworkers in California, and early childhood education for Latino children. “When I think about that and the work and track record of Hillary there is no question in my mind who my father would support.”

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bjo59

(1,166 posts)
2. Why is going to Bern? Anyone, including his son, can say anything that want about what Caesar
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 03:30 PM
Jun 2016

Chavez would have said and would have done now that he isn't around. Lucky for his foolish son that his father can't contradict him.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
3. Chavez's WIFE knew him better than anyone, and she's a huge Hillary supporter.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 04:58 PM
Jun 2016

His foolish son-in-law doesn't speak for all the family members who actually knew Chavez. It's wrong for him to trade on the family name like that.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
4. Time Hillary to bring along the son and a video of his mom on the campaign trail.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 05:03 PM
Jun 2016

Have to fight fire with fire. Why let the Sanders' camp get away with this?

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
5. His mother is 88 and in the hospital right now -- Paul Chavez is probably with her.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 05:09 PM
Jun 2016

But how galling it must be to know his brother-in-law is on the campaign trail, having the nerve to be speaking for the Chavez family.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
6. Since when is a militarist, corporatist a practical idealist? So defeating 61 cent per
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 05:52 PM
Jun 2016

hour wage for Haitian workers is something Chavez would have supported? Really?

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
7. Here is an interesting read on Paul Chavez
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 05:55 PM
Jun 2016

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/14/us/14chavez.html?_r=0

When Cesar Chavez was alive, he was a major force in California politics and agriculture. “The problem now is that the organization has simply drifted,” said Miriam Pawel, who has written a book about the union and is working on a biography of Mr. Chavez. “It has become a family-run organization that is sort of purposeless and does little or nothing to help farm workers.”

The lawsuit alleges that Paul Chavez, 54, refused to fire an employee who stole $500,000 from the organization and instead urged his brother to get rid of one employee who looked as though he “needed to see a mortician.”

The case is a window on the strife within the generation that took control of the movement after Mr. Chavez’s death in 1993. Decades ago, he became a national figure, leading farm workers to picket lines and using boycotts to secure union contracts for the notoriously underpaid workers. Now, just a tiny fraction of the nearly half a million farm workers in California operate with a contract.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
9. The whole family is in strife. All the more reason one son-in-law
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 06:03 PM
Jun 2016

shouldn't be going around claiming to know what Chavez would have wanted.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
11. At best, this is a suppostion
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 06:06 PM
Jun 2016

All of these sort of historically important people being used to push something today are silly. People change over time and it's hard to determine how new events would have changed them.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
12. Yes, but it's an answer to an in-law who claimed HE knew who Chavez would
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 06:11 PM
Jun 2016

have supported. Paul didn't think the son-in-law had the right to say that..

Bernie shouldn't be claiming the reflected glory of Cesar Chavez at his rallies when the children and in-laws are divided on this.

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