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qdouble

(891 posts)
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 04:16 PM Jun 2016

Bernie or Bust equals a pro-Trump movement after the convention if BS in not the nominee

who do they think will win if the majority of democrats and left leaning independent don't rally around Hillary? Is anyone under the illusion that if they stay home, write-in or do anything in November other than vote for Hillary that they are not doing everything in their power to prevent Trump from being nominated?

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Bernie or Bust equals a pro-Trump movement after the convention if BS in not the nominee (Original Post) qdouble Jun 2016 OP
Bernie or Bust is a tiny fringe just like the PUMAs were. Ignore them nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #1
+1 texstad79 Jun 2016 #5
Wait. Shadowflash Jun 2016 #2
Sanders supporters voting for Sanders in the primaries is fine. qdouble Jun 2016 #3
Haha! Shadowflash Jun 2016 #4
Nope.. qdouble Jun 2016 #6
If you are not worried she will lose.. Shadowflash Jun 2016 #7
If ALL of Sanders supporters don't vote for Hillary she will lose... qdouble Jun 2016 #9
The FACT is Shadowflash Jun 2016 #11
So you're for trying to prevent Trump becoming president before the end of the primaries qdouble Jun 2016 #12
+1000 PADemD Jun 2016 #16
Did you know there are 8 states catnhatnh Jun 2016 #8
I never made an argument that write-in votes wouldn't be counted... qdouble Jun 2016 #10
It means I will not allow the DNC to coerce me catnhatnh Jun 2016 #13
So if your preferred candidate doesn't win... qdouble Jun 2016 #14
Why don't you worry about your motivations for this post catnhatnh Jun 2016 #15
If your motivations are none of my fucking business, why in the fuck are you asking me about mine? qdouble Jun 2016 #18
I did no such thing catnhatnh Jun 2016 #19
I confused you with another poster... qdouble Jun 2016 #20
Exactly realmirage Jun 2016 #17

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
2. Wait.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 04:29 PM
Jun 2016

The GOP nominated the person with the HIGHEST negatives to EVER run for President since they began polling it. The man is a moron, clown and general boob of the highest order that nobody likes. Not even in his OWN party.

Yet given all this, HRC is BARELY running even with him in the polls, so far.

And, yet, it will be the SANDERS supporters who will be at fault, if she loses!?!

Haha! Good luck with THAT narrative.

qdouble

(891 posts)
3. Sanders supporters voting for Sanders in the primaries is fine.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 04:33 PM
Jun 2016

Sanders supporters not voting for the democratic nominee in November means that those supporters rather have Trump than Hillary... which equals Bernie or Trump. Let's call them BOTs.

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
4. Haha!
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 04:35 PM
Jun 2016

Right.

I think the blame should, and will, be placed at the feet of the people who voted to nominate the ONE candidate that can't even beat the most hated person to EVER run for president.

qdouble

(891 posts)
6. Nope..
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 04:47 PM
Jun 2016

The people who do everything they can to not help the opposition to Trump deserve the blame in the unlikely event that Trump wins. I'm not worried that Hillary will lose, just stating the truth that making no effort to stop Trump after the primary means that you're either pro-Trump or indifferent.

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
7. If you are not worried she will lose..
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 04:50 PM
Jun 2016

...what is even the point of this thread? To lay blame on people for something that isn't going to happen?


Also, see reply number 5. Our numbers are, apparently, not enough to make any difference, (according to that poster and a LOT of others I see) so you can't really lay the blame at our feet, can you?

qdouble

(891 posts)
9. If ALL of Sanders supporters don't vote for Hillary she will lose...
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 04:57 PM
Jun 2016

However, after Bernie drops out and supports her and when Obama and other popular dems come out and support her... and when everyone gets reminded of all the batshit insane stuff that Trump has said... I seriously doubt Hillary will lose.

However, even if there is only 10-20 percent chance of Trump winning, we shouldn't take it for granted and not act like it is dangerous for Democrats to sit out of this election because of sour grapes. Stating the facts that not voting against Trump means that you're either pro-Trump or indifferent doesn't mean that I'm preemptively blaming them, I'm just stating the facts.

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
11. The FACT is
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 05:00 PM
Jun 2016

that we are in the process of nominating a candidate that, so far, is going to struggle to beat the most moronic and hated person to run for president since they started polling.

I did my best to AVOID this situation and voted for Sanders in the primary. The rest is on you.

qdouble

(891 posts)
12. So you're for trying to prevent Trump becoming president before the end of the primaries
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 05:03 PM
Jun 2016

but not after if your favorite candidate loses?

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
8. Did you know there are 8 states
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 04:52 PM
Jun 2016

Where a write in is given full weight just like a name listed on a ballot? Those states are Vermont, Wyoming, Oregon, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Iowa, Delaware, and Alabama. Thirty-five states require that a write-in candidate must submit some form of affidavit and, sometimes, a filing fee at least one month before the election. Only 7 states ignore write ins. I personally feel writing in Sanders makes perfectly good sense.

qdouble

(891 posts)
10. I never made an argument that write-in votes wouldn't be counted...
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 05:00 PM
Jun 2016

I specifically asked is if anyone was under the illusion that Bernie would win the election via write-ins? If you know that writing in Bernie is not going to give him any realistic chance of winning, it simply means that you are not doing everything you can to make sure Trump doesn't get elected after the primary.... which would be to vote for the democratic nominee. No one else will have a serious chance.

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
13. It means I will not allow the DNC to coerce me
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 05:12 PM
Jun 2016

after they failed to do everything they could to make sure Trump isn't elected. They mistakenly believe a "D" by my name makes me their puppet and a brick in their firewall. They are mistaken. It's called being on the record.

qdouble

(891 posts)
14. So if your preferred candidate doesn't win...
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 05:19 PM
Jun 2016

you're perfectly fine with Trump becoming president? Or you just don't care what happens to our country if Bernie loses?

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
15. Why don't you worry about your motivations for this post
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 05:26 PM
Jun 2016

and let me deal with mine? Because my motivations are none of your fucking business.

qdouble

(891 posts)
18. If your motivations are none of my fucking business, why in the fuck are you asking me about mine?
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 05:54 PM
Jun 2016

Hypocrite much?

qdouble

(891 posts)
20. I confused you with another poster...
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 06:33 PM
Jun 2016

If you don't want to state your motivation, it's fine. Being extremely rude because you were asked a question on a message board is still uncalled for... but do you.

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