2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDoesn't this idea that superdelegates should take "momentum" into account give an unfair advantage
to late-voting states? Are the results from a state somehow more significant when the state happens to vote late in the process rather than early? Or is this just folks desperately grasping at straws here?
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)not to bother voting...the winner has already been declared
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tonyt53
(5,737 posts)Renew Deal
(81,858 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)for the winner or loser. Not.
And egging on one candidate to "drop out"?
Democracy at its finest. Not.
Renew Deal
(81,858 posts)That is the nature of things. I encourage people to do everything they can to vote. It matters.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)msongs
(67,405 posts)CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Guess you missed that and all of the assorted math-infused graphs. Then there is the opposite..but why be tiresome. Proceed.
CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)SheilaT
(23,156 posts)and voters in the later voting states are completely shut out.
My state votes, or at least the polls close next Tuesday. I've already voted there, and I want my vote to count.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)hypothetically, what Sanders is proposing is appalling and thoroughly anti-Democratic.
But, there's zero chance of it happening so it's mostly a disingenuous talking point
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)It could go almost anywhere, and find almost anything ... to make the case.
Renew Deal
(81,858 posts)She is likely to win VI, PR, NJ, NM. That's not counting CA where she is a favorite and ND and SD that have no polling.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)don't really believe in democracy.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)My understanding is that the SD vote should be representative of the current political situation rather than based on early commitments. Like before there was.just candidate.
We won't know the will of the voters...by definition. ..until they actually VOTE.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)First place finishers a win, not second place finishers.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)that is all I am going to say. Front loading wth CONSERVATIVE states, assures a CONSERVATIVE neolib dem, See, we both can play that game.
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)They will vote for the Hillary as she has the most delegate and hope Bernie goes away as he is now an also ran...and can do nothing worthwhile: not that he ever did...a canned shallow speech is all he ever offered.
NanceGreggs
(27,814 posts)There is no such thing as "momentum" in state-by-state primaries.
It could be said that BS had "momentum' after his win in NH, but it didn't carry through to the southern states that followed. It could be said that HRC had "momentum" after she swept the southern states, but it didn't carry through to the western states that followed.
States vary in population, demographics, etc., and voters often focus on issues specific to their state. People in one state do not vote for a candidate simply because they won elsewhere.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)MineralMan
(146,298 posts)California, nor of any other state or region.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)WASHINGTON (CNN) -- For the second time in three days, Sen. Hillary Clinton told reporters that the pledged delegates awarded based on vote totals in their state are not bound to abide by election results.
Sen. Hillary Clinton lags behind Sen. Barack Obama in the popular vote and in pledged delegates.
It's an idea that has been floated by her or a campaign surrogate nearly half a dozen times this month.
Sen. Barack Obama leads Clinton among all Democratic delegates, 1,622 to 1,485, in the latest CNN count. Among pledged delegates, Obama leads Clinton 1,413 to 1,242.
"Every delegate with very few exceptions is free to make up his or her mind however they choose," Clinton told Time's Mark Halperin in an interview published Wednesday.
"We talk a lot about so-called pledged delegates, but every delegate is expected to exercise independent judgment," she said.
Clinton's remarks echoed her Monday comments to the editorial board of the Philadelphia Daily News.
"And also remember that pledged delegates in most states are not pledged," she said Monday. "You know there is no requirement that anybody vote for anybody. They're just like superdelegates."
Clinton also made similar comments in a Newsweek interview published two weeks ago.