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Related: About this forumConfirmed: Bernie Sanders Illegally Used Campaign Funds For Overnight Trip To Italy
The reports provide evidence that Bernie Sanders illegally used campaign funds for his overnight stay in Italy with 10 family members. Lodging at the 5-star luxury Hotel Boscolo Exedra in Rome, Italy was billed to the campaign in the amount of $13,758. Rooms at the luxury hotel start at $400 a night and go up to $8,000 a night. Additional expenses include $883 for lodging and catering at Hotel Michelangelo in Rome.
On 4/8, Bernie Sanders announced he would travel to the Vatican on 4/15. Private chartered flights must be paid in full before scheduled departure date. On 4/11, the campaign disbursed $613,451 for chartered air travel. This amount dwarfs all other Sanders campaign air charter travel expenses to date.
We can now confirm that Bernie Sanders illegally spent over a half million dollars in campaign funds on private air travel and luxury hotels for his non-campaign related trip to Italy. To learn why this is an illegal use of campaign finances, see our previous article on this topic:...
http://www.politicade.com/confirmed-bernie-sanders-illegally-used-campaign-funds-for-overnight-trip-to-italy/
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Let's see who gets indicted first.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)BainsBane
(53,032 posts)That you can examine yourself. You can also go directly to the FEC site and pull up the reports.
FreakinDJ
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Federal elections committee.
I know a democratic site can't compare to Fox, Breitbart, the Free Beacon, Judicial Watch, and the other RW sites posted by Bernie supporters. But you contempt for Democratic owned media needn't stop you from looking to the FEC site, but that would require actually caring about facts.
Interested how disturbed "progressives are" that all media isn't owned by multi-billion dollar right wing corporations. Worse yet, the cite actual documents from the Federal Elections Commission.
Perhaps you can provide us a list of acceptable corporate wealth? Guns and fighter planes are obviously sacred, while the most virulent RW media corporations are oracles of truth, while big sugar is always good. So it seems profiting from killing rather than lending or theme parks makes a corporate industry beyond approach, while promoting GOP control of all three branches of government makes a media outlet acceptable, whereas connection to the Democratic Party (if in fact you are correct on that point) makes it wholly unreliable. That's an interesting set of values.
Oh, and of course activism for HIV/AIDS, reproductive rights and civil rights is unacceptably "establishment, " while generating billions from killing and promoting RW causes is righteous. Oh, and profiting to the tune of 50 million from the cosmetics industry due to horrendous labor exploitation in the deletion world makes someone a hero, and perfect celebrity spokesman whom lowly citizens have no right to criticize.
The hypocrisy truly is limitless.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Keep Dreaming Big ..
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)and her office, for classified documents.
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)pnwmom
(108,978 posts)about whether her private server was allowed for regular email or not.
For classified documents she had SCIF systems installed in her home and office, and guarded by the Secret Service.
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)Lol on SS guarding the server while the hacks sneak in thru the intertubes
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)which is something that happens sometimes, especially when people from different agencies second-guess each other's decisions.
One of the most egregious examples was when articles that had been on official government websites for years were taken off and deemed classified. It's a nutty system.
Here is an article about retroactive classification and how it is used and abused, published in the University of Pennsylvania law review.
http://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=9475&context=penn_law_review
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)Skink
(10,122 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)chascarrillo
(3,897 posts)2banon
(7,321 posts)oh boy, Sanders is in trouble now!
livetohike
(22,143 posts)No problem spending other people's money.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)At his age, and with his decades in congress, he had to know this was illegal
livetohike
(22,143 posts)Conning the system - good little radical.
dflprincess
(28,078 posts)is the motto on the Clinton family crest.
elleng
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Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)elleng
(130,906 posts)The 'itinerary' of his 'luxury vacation' is here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/16/us/politics/bernie-sanders-rome.html
liberal from boston
(856 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)as an endorsement.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)and Jane. They could have stayed at a nice, clean hotel which is affordable to the 99% they claim to represent. It could have been a teachable moment, to show that he practices what he preaches, that his humility and integrity are real.
But no, he went out and spared no expenses. No luxury spared, only the best for the large Sanders family. All paid with money which wasn't his to spend as he wished.
Pure hypocrisy.
thesquanderer
(11,986 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)thesquanderer
(11,986 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)thesquanderer
(11,986 posts)...but the article says this hotel goes from $400 to $8k per night... and it's possible the cheapest rooms were not available... and he did take a bunch of family, and also secret service protection... I'm not in a position to know whether or not it was excessive under the circumstances.
Matt_R
(456 posts)Thant includes taking a trip overseas. You have to account for Secret Service protection, travel for them, any and all expenses tend to be exaggerated because you ARE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT!!!
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)it as being summoned by the Pope. Or an endorsement from the pope. But, his people do not have issue, none of my business. If the FEC has gone after him, and I understood it was illegal, then that is another story.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)the 99%.
But they weren't good enough for him.
The hypocrisy, it blows the mind
Hekate
(90,686 posts)Of course, they planned ahead, so that might have influenced the availability.
But yeah, the hypocrisy and the self-delusion
YouDig
(2,280 posts)m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)him and stayed at 5-star hotels?
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)bigtree
(85,996 posts)...and making supporters pay for this, to boot.
This isn't progressiveness.
MattP
(3,304 posts)So humble st bernie is
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Why don't they identify themselves on their website?
Just another Clinton smear machine is what Occum's Razor says.
Prove Occum's Razor wrong, I dare you.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)another mud slinging post from another Hillary supporter. When you see this news story in a reputable newspaper get back with us!
99Forever
(14,524 posts)***crickets***
It's pretty obvious why.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)That has been reported by multiple sources.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/sanders-campaign-adventure-takes-hamilton-rome-39605788
Sanders' ambitious campaign schedule has not been affected. Spokesman Michael Briggs said Sanders has done 30 rallies in California since mid-May. He added that Sanders spent time in Puerto Rico touring some of the city's poorest neighborhoods and meeting "with people confronting the financial crisis."
Briggs also noted that Clinton and Obama have taken in "Hamilton." He said Sanders paid for the "Hamilton" tickets while the Warriors tickets were paid for privately; the travel to Rome was a campaign expense.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)As I would expect the average citizen to be.
okasha
(11,573 posts)Will Bernie repay the misappropriated campaign funds?
If he doesn't, will the IRS count those misappropriated funds as income and require Bernie to pay income tax on them?
Is the indictment fairy coming after all, just not for Hillary?
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)have to repay his campaign from his own wallet.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)a five-star hotel...Brock is making us believe he did
metroins
(2,550 posts)That's fucking nuts. For 1 trip.
I'm not trying to bash Bernie here but doesn't somebody question that kind of expense?
thesquanderer
(11,986 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)Reminds me of some sites that have been "unapproved" here on DU.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Into the trash this thread goes.
opiate69
(10,129 posts)in 10 days or whatever it is, when DU goes into "GE mode", Skinner apparently plans to give all of the transparency page all-stars a clean slate... great motivation for keeping a civil tongue until then, eh?
Rob H.
(5,351 posts)Last edited Sun Jun 5, 2016, 05:42 PM - Edit history (1)
One of the all-stars has racked up 25 hides. I'd say that's pretty clear evidence he's only here to make DU suck, and yet....
Edit: down to 24 since one was old enough to drop off, but he's been ffr since 5/27.
merrily
(45,251 posts)or illegality. The only fact in that story is that Bernie filed a report with the FEC. Big fucking whoop.
jfern
(5,204 posts)Now money laundering with the DNC and 33 state parties to use $353,000 donations for your own benefit, that should definitely be illegal.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)that is not specifically prohibited in writing?
jillan
(39,451 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Like someone who was Secretary of State who did favors for UBS might do?
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)LOLOLOL
Is that a little bit like a sidewalk lemonade stand?
Good Lord.
NOBODY CARES about your phony issue.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)enid602
(8,619 posts)Is the half mill over and above the 30 mill his campaign collected illegally. Looks like he's gonma have to look for odd carpentry jobs. Maybe Jane can find a college that needs administerin' or something.
doc03
(35,337 posts)rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)of $27 each!
All to see a man in a dress and a funny hat.
melman
(7,681 posts)Throwing in a little Catholic bashing there. Nice touch.
Last edited Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:45 AM - Edit history (1)
I was raised Catholic before I became anti-religion. My mom remains a devout Catholic.
Therefore I am offended by your bigoted imputation of offense to Catholics. Lol.
I'm not bashing Catholics. I'm bashing a man in a dress and a funny hat who claims to be God's agent on earth based on no evidence whatsoever of any divine powers.
The faux outrage is amusing. Bernie Bros have such a strong need to be offended and outraged.
Shall we talk about pedophile clergy next?
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)to Rome to meet with the Pope?
Yup!
blackspade
(10,056 posts)from another bullshit 'news' site.
This is not 'confirmed,' merely opinion.
Much like the other crap for that site.
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)This just after the NY times did a story showing a plurality of his donors are unemployed.
Shameful.
robbedvoter
(28,290 posts)eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)RazBerryBeret
(3,075 posts)maybe there will be an FBI investigation?
ppppffffffft......
senseandsensibility
(17,037 posts)imagine2015
(2,054 posts)Written and confirmed by an unidentified writer for Politicade!
The article is so bad and the claims so absurd that the writer won't even step forward and identify him or herself!
And what the hell is Politicade??? Anyone here ever hear of it? You won't find much about them on Google. It looks pretty much like a fly-by-night anti-Sanders slander website using the National Inquirer's journalistic standards. So who is really behind Politicade. Who is funding it? Do they have a publicly known editorial board and public owners? Perhaps the poster can reveal this information to us.
Here's a list of most featured articles on their homepage:
Confirmed: Bernie Sanders Illegally used Campaign Funds for Overnight Trip to Italy
June 4, 2016
Give Bernie Sanders a Taste of Power and He Will Demand the Whole Enchilada
May 25, 2016
Bernie Sanders Has Chosen the Path of the Sore Loser
May 23, 2016
Bernie Sanders Continues to Ask Supporters for Donations Despite No Path To Victory
May 17, 2016
CNN Political Analyst Angela Rye is our Hero for this Epic Takedown on the Topic of Bill Clintons Affairs
May 10, 2016
Elizabeth Warren owes Hillary Clinton an Apology
April 30, 2016
Did Bernie Sanders Illegally Use Campaign Funds to Take Family to Italy?
April 27, 2016
Bernie Sanders Calls Hillary Clinton Racist, Yet Her Record on Civil Rights is Stronger
February 29, 2016
WOW! Well, I wonder what the next big expose will be on this self-proclaimed "left leaning" website?
Let us know when Sanders will be charged with illegal campaign and criminal campaign activity by the Federal Election Commission.
I can tell you right now despite your hopes and dreams that ain't gonna happen!
If you find any evidence of criminal activity from credible sources let everyone on DU know!
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)This is the first confirmation I've seen with the actual numbers. That's an incredible amount for such a short trip.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)(or BOTH)
Gothmog
(145,242 posts)There will be no contested convention and Sanders is lying to his supporters
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)Gothmog
(145,242 posts)Sanders will not be the nominee and there will be no contested convention. Sanders is lying about a contested convention to keep the small dollar donations coming in. That tactic is really rather sad
Hekate
(90,686 posts)Or do the usual rules just simply not apply to Sanders?
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Pretty cut and dry.