California voters -- IMPORTANT INFORMATION -- don't let them steal the election

[pdsimdars]

Mike Malloy is reporting that he heard from a polling worker in Orange County, CA that they were told to give all NPP (Independent) voters PROVISIONAL BALLOTS.
Provisional Ballots are not counted.

SOLUTION . . .if you are an independent, don't accept a provisional ballot but insist that you get a Democratic ballot.

[tonyt53]

1. Just as with PR, crying foul before the vote.

[beachbum bob]

3. lol....so typical, sanders can't possibly lose as so many people see him at functions

sanders confuses turnout to votes and voting is hard.....

[puffy socks]

12. Yep

Ooooh the pooooor Berner's

[tonyt53]

26. Perfect!

[workinclasszero]

28. So tired of the Sanders MO

If there a chance of him losing start the stolen/rigged meme ahead of time to shape the narrative.

They must think all Americans are fools that can't see what they are doing!

Cry wolf some more berners, its worked so well for you!

[onehandle]

2. Who's 'them?' nt

[Starry Messenger]

4. CA PROVISIONAL BALLOTS ARE COUNTED:

http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/voting-resources/provisional-voting/

What Happens After You Cast a Provisional Ballot?

Your provisional ballot will be counted after elections officials have confirmed that you are registered to vote in that county and you did not already vote in that election.

You may vote a provisional ballot at any polling place in the county in which you are registered to vote, however, only the elections contests you are eligible to vote for will be counted.

How Can You Check The Status of Your Provisional Ballot?

Every voter who casts a provisional ballot has the right to find out from their county elections official if the ballot was counted and, if not, the reason why it was not counted.

Visit www.sos.ca.gov/elections/ballot-status for a list of county contacts and information on how to check the status of your provisional ballot.

[JohnnyRingo]

13. There's a bucket of cold water.

It's incredible that people who want Bernie to completely overhaul the government know little about how it works.

People must think they just throw provisionals in the garbage.

[Starry Messenger]

16. They do. Palast started this rumor.

He posted some murky theory based on an experience in another states elections with provisional ballots and then claimed the bare word of Ashley the poll worker meant the same thing happens in CA.

It's garbage.

[JohnnyRingo]

41. Technically they do in Ohio too.

At least that's how a conspiracy theorist would hear it.

If the number of provisionals equal an amount that could alter the outcome, then they count them. Otherwise they're discarded.

Obviously there's no fraud but some would just hear "threw them away".

[NorthCarolina]

17. There is NO NEED for NPP voters to be given a provisional ballot in CA whatso. So why the insistance

that it's "OK". Why not just give them a Democratic Party ballot as allowed? Why the push for use of provisional ballots? I know why, (1) despite all the reassurances, primary ballots are not counted on primary day, if at all, and (2) massive new voter registration scares the beejesus out of camp Hillary.

[Starry Messenger]

19. They are ballots!! Jesus.

They are counted. We have some of the cleanest and most accessible elections in the country.

Why couldn't NPP voters register as Dems for one election and save all this fucking DRAMA?

[basselope]

36. I registered as dem for just that reason. I will fix it on June 8th and go back to NPP.

[NorthCarolina]

43. Then YOU vote on one. -nt-

[Starry Messenger]

44. I would if I needed to.

I, however, registered as a Dem and sent in my mail-in ballot for the CA primary weeks ago, like millions of us voting for Clinton in my state.

[reddread]

45. right

http://articles.latimes.com/2001/nov/10/local/me-2612


http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/prior-elections/statewide-election-results/statewide-special-election-october-7-2003/statement-vote/

https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/03/17/there-was-a-recount-on-the-prop-37-vote-and-it-was-stopped-cold/

[Starry Messenger]

46. I hope you didn't hurt yourself looking for that 15 year old story all day.

I'm not going to bother to look, but I'm sure the glitch, whatever it was, was resolved.

[reddread]

47. I know

thanks for your concern.

[Retrograde]

42. Some reasons why people may be given provisional ballots in CA

here

[TeamPooka]

48. K & R nt

[Sancho]

5. Is Bernie planning on restricting polling stations like PR?

No matter...California doesn't count this year. Bernie has already lost.

[Democrats Ascendant]

6. Someone is reporting that he heard that they were told...

And go!

[wyldwolf]

10. ... his mother's uncle's first cousin's best friend's drinking buddy...

[Democrats Ascendant]

11. Whose dog from a previous marriage, who was chased by...

This is fun!

[Dr Hobbitstein]

21. So what does that make us?

[Democrats Ascendant]

23. Good one! Yes!!

[qdouble]

7. Based on the size of the rallies, if Bernie doesn't secure 90% of the vote in CA it's fraud

[wyldwolf]

9. Mike Malloy is reporting he heard from a polling worker that they were told by his brother's cousin

[alcibiades_mystery]

24. ROFL

The pathetic end of the Sanders campaign encapsulated: Bizarre connections, rumors, inability to accept losing, bitterness, immaturity.

[Gregorian]

14. How silly. Who cares about legitimate elections?

Stop being an alarmist. Everything is working out according to plan. Close your eyes and let Crooked Hillary have her rightful place in the Oval Office.

Just shut up and be a good democrat.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

22. "Crooked Hillary"?

Quoting your new favorite candidate?

[pdsimdars]

25. right now, 23 replies and I only see 2. . . I must have lit some fires in the Hillary camp.

[tritsofme]

35. Just wanted to pop in to say goodbye. Trump fans like you don't have a long shelf life on DU.

What kind of Trump-loving asshole calls the presumptive Democratic nominee "Crooked Hillary"? Get out of here.

[FSogol]

38. +1 n/t

[seabeyond]

15. Hey Bernie people. Quit falsely accusing DNC or Clinton of theft. It is asshole behavior

to falsely accuse simply because you have lost.

[MineralMan]

18. That's an old meme, based on a questionable report about

a poll worker training session in Orange County. That nonsense has been corrected. To continue bringing it up is a bit obviously an empty strategy.

Any NPP voter who requests the Democratic Primary Ballot will be given one. It will not be classed as a provisional ballot, either.

The CA Secretary of State has made that crystal clear.

[alcibiades_mystery]

20. Oh good God

[yuiyoshida]

27. Many of us have already voted by mail

unless the Post office is burning the insides of Postal boxes or dumping our votes in the BAY...I am not worried about my vote. I like California's chances.

[Retrograde]

30. Some counties let you check the status

of your mail ballot on-line. I see that mine was received and counted two weeks ago.

[yuiyoshida]

31. I love this state...

The only way to get me to leave is to send me to Hawaii...I could live with that.

[Renew Deal]

29. Why does this only apply to Sanders supporters?

Don't you want Clinton supporters to vote properly?

[2banon]

32. small correction;; NPP are not "independents", an important distinction in this state

reference of registered "Independents" is often confused to poll workers (here in California) with the white supremacist American Independent party, a state registered party.

The bottom line though, all registered NPP voters who wish to vote for a president in the primary, must request the ballot of the party of their choice (D, R, AI) when they show up at their precinct. If they don't request one of the three, they will receive a ballot with no presidential choice, essentially a "blank ballot" for that contest.

If Orange County is instructing poll workers to hand out provisionals to registered NNP voters, they've been instructed incorrectly and that correction should be made by the country registrars office or the state AND the MEDIA!

[pdsimdars]

37. NPP = No Party Preference.. . and it is what MOST states call Independents.

So, what I said was correct and every NPP (independent) should make sure to get a Democratic ballot.

[2banon]

40. to be clear..

I wasn't quibbling with the jest of the statement...


a lot of discussion here in California regarding the term Independent as it does refer to a registered party with the state. and many younger independent voters who are actually NPP are not largely aware of that.

that's all I'm saying..

[Lord Magus]

33. That is a lie, provisional ballots ARE counted. -nt-

[Live and Learn]

34. Lots of poll workers use provisional ballots and they are counted.

Many poll workers use them because they aren't stationed where they vote and can't make it to their polling place. Every provisional ballot is counted after it is ensured the voter hasn't already voted somewhere else or by mail and is a a registered voter.

And no, Non-partisan voters do not need to use a provisional ballot unless they had a ballot mailed to them and don't bring it with them or are in the wrong polling place. All poll workers get training and should be aware of this. Non-partisan voters also get information mailed to them to explain what party ballots they may chose from.

[pdsimdars]

39. Remember ==== Provisional Ballot means Trash Can ....

As long as you are going to vote, make sure it is counted. .. .
provisional ballot -- means no vote for you.