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Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:48 PM Jun 2016

These complaints about the AP calling the race? They're saying the EXACT SAME THING at Free Republic

"Superdeletes don't count until the convention." "It's a dirty trick to suppress Bernie votes." The Freepers are saying all of these things. If you're making the same argument as Freepers, shouldn't that give you some pause?

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These complaints about the AP calling the race? They're saying the EXACT SAME THING at Free Republic (Original Post) Lord Magus Jun 2016 OP
It should give you some pause danimich1 Jun 2016 #1
You think Freepers give a damn about election integrity? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #2
I don't think you know 840high Jun 2016 #27
It makes me glad it is over Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #8
Hmm, interesting. Barack_America Jun 2016 #3
No login is needed to view their posts. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife Jun 2016 #33
"Sad and petulant is no way to go through life, son." randome Jun 2016 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife Jun 2016 #57
It shows in your attitude. You're simply dripping with self-confidence and kindness. randome Jun 2016 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife Jun 2016 #63
That's your argument? NWCorona Jun 2016 #4
the freepers love them some Bernie Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #5
Yup. Every repug I know IRL wanted so badly for Sanders to win. nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #10
All the ones I know too Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #11
why yes because we all know that FREEPERs are all for Socialist Free Stuff azurnoir Jun 2016 #40
I actually know some Republicans who like Bernie democrattotheend Jun 2016 #16
Not surprised KingFlorez Jun 2016 #6
Some of those people post here. Clearly. writes3000 Jun 2016 #9
Really? democrattotheend Jun 2016 #17
Where did I accuse you? I also think the AP jumped the gun and I support Hillary. writes3000 Jun 2016 #25
Hillary folks seems lost upset, oddly. morningfog Jun 2016 #12
Even a broken clock is right twice a day passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #13
Did the supers actually announce for her? democrattotheend Jun 2016 #18
No, apparently they were called and asked passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #19
let's unify the party TheFarS1de Jun 2016 #14
Hillary's attacks on Sanders health care plan were point for point GOP talking points. Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #15
I had to check the website address at one point TheFarS1de Jun 2016 #20
I got called a sushi eating latte drinking something or other yesterday Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #22
Well aside from your good taste in food and politicians .... TheFarS1de Jun 2016 #23
Their attitude is extremely off-putting Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #24
OMG, this is hysterical! NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #29
you guys don't like talking issues and use dishonest arguments. Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #32
Snappy comeback. NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #38
it's true. There's no point trying to reason with people who just repeat the same scripted talking Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #39
Well, you would know ... NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #41
ouch. Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #43
Sanders people consistently attack Hillary on policy AND post positive on Sanders policies AntiBank Jun 2016 #42
.. except they surreptitiously pitch policies which will clearly be on Hillary's agenda if she worms GoneFishin Jun 2016 #53
a reminder mercuryblues Jun 2016 #64
I'm positive they're Repubicans. senz Jun 2016 #46
+10000000000 AntiBank Jun 2016 #30
Not if you are a freeper. Scurrilous Jun 2016 #21
Free Republic? MFM008 Jun 2016 #26
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #28
what a silly little thing to say, untrue and smear of Sanders people by association AntiBank Jun 2016 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife Jun 2016 #36
You're probably not aware of this but we have long term Freeper right here on DU Fumesucker Jun 2016 #31
Tee hee azurnoir Jun 2016 #35
Oh just piss off. arikara Jun 2016 #37
It's really impossible to tell them apart anymore. eom tarheelsunc Jun 2016 #44
Link? senz Jun 2016 #45
I really don't like linking to Free Republic, but here. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #66
No surprises that the two arms of the Not Hillary Party use the same playbook. baldguy Jun 2016 #47
... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #48
poor little Rbaggers have to figure out a way to be anti clinton without pretending to be D party. Sunlei Jun 2016 #49
This is what the BBC says. Bad Dog Jun 2016 #51
The Establishment likes simple narratives like winners and losers. Orsino Jun 2016 #52
Its not the first time that teabag freepers and workinclasszero Jun 2016 #54
So, "shut up or you're a Republican?" And y'all wonder why I won't take coffee with y'all. VulgarPoet Jun 2016 #55
What if something happened to make the superdelegates change their minds? Vinca Jun 2016 #56
That connection has been obvious for months. Darb Jun 2016 #58
Holy shit! Next thing you know, they'll claim water is wet. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #60
Sounding like Freepers hasn't stopped anyone so far. Why would now be any different? BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #61
I think the vast majority of Bernie supporters are not suckered in by FR's faux sympathies Tarc Jun 2016 #62
What are you implying by your post? -nt- NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #65

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
2. You think Freepers give a damn about election integrity?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:59 PM
Jun 2016

They're just interested in smearing Hillary. And they want to prop up Bernie because they think he hurts Hillary.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
3. Hmm, interesting.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:00 AM
Jun 2016

What's your login over there, I'll go check it out.

Not familiar with that site, how do I find this discussion?

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
7. No login is needed to view their posts.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:02 AM
Jun 2016

And I got banned for trolling the Freepers (by posting their kryptonite: facts) years ago.

Response to Lord Magus (Reply #7)

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
50. "Sad and petulant is no way to go through life, son."
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:33 AM
Jun 2016


Is this some 'scorched earth' policy from some of you, now? "I didn't get my way so I'm going to try and insult as many people as possible!"
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

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randome

(34,845 posts)
59. It shows in your attitude. You're simply dripping with self-confidence and kindness.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 08:40 AM
Jun 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

Response to randome (Reply #59)

Demsrule86

(69,386 posts)
11. All the ones I know too
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:24 AM
Jun 2016

I have no doubt that some of Sander's support comes from the GOP employing operation chaos.

democrattotheend

(11,691 posts)
16. I actually know some Republicans who like Bernie
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:40 AM
Jun 2016

Or at least like him better than Trump or Hillary. Not the strategic voting type - they would actually vote for Bernie in November if given the chance. I also met a couple Republicans when I handed out Bernie flyers at the train station during the primary who said they disagreed with him but liked him and would rather have him than Trump.

That said, I doubt the freerepublic types are in that camp.

democrattotheend

(11,691 posts)
17. Really?
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:43 AM
Jun 2016

I have over 8,000 posts, joined 13 years ago, but because I think the AP jumped the gun and in so doing hurt both of the candidates I'm a plant from freerepublic?

writes3000

(4,734 posts)
25. Where did I accuse you? I also think the AP jumped the gun and I support Hillary.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:47 AM
Jun 2016

PS - It's pretty apparent who purposefully stirs the pot around here. They're usually new and quite assertive with extreme pronouncements designed to start fights.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
13. Even a broken clock is right twice a day
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:29 AM
Jun 2016

The fact that you don't understand how the delegates are supposed to work should give you some pause.

If it were just the AP announcement, I'd probably not think it's necessarily connected to Hillary, but the fact that 20+ supers decided to announce support for her, in unison, the night before the Cali vote, that kinda changed my mind. I think this is a party ploy, and AP is in on it.

democrattotheend

(11,691 posts)
18. Did the supers actually announce for her?
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:44 AM
Jun 2016

It doesn't seem like it, which is what is weird. Have a bunch of supers actually publicly announced for her in the last 24-48 hours, or did they just answer the AP's questions?

Even if it's the latter, it could be that the supers decided to tell the AP where they stood earlier because they knew Clinton's internal polling in Cali looked bad and they wanted to minimize the impact.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
19. No, apparently they were called and asked
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:20 AM
Jun 2016

and somehow one more than needed to "clinch" the nomination (invalid at this point...but hell they do what they want), decided to say Yeah, count me in, but please don't tell anyone I support her. What, are they ashamed to admit it?

Something wicked this way comes.

TheFarS1de

(1,017 posts)
20. I had to check the website address at one point
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:27 AM
Jun 2016

I just had to make sure this was not a rethuglican site based on the free stuff mantra they spread everywhere .

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
22. I got called a sushi eating latte drinking something or other yesterday
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:30 AM
Jun 2016

On DU. Pretty awesome. Because I said the TPP would hurt American workers. It made literally no sense even as an insult.

I think some of the paid trolls are probably Republicans so those are the insults and talking points they know of.


TheFarS1de

(1,017 posts)
23. Well aside from your good taste in food and politicians ....
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:33 AM
Jun 2016

they are obviously not paying much , a horde of semi literate bullies may get the job done , not so good if you want the people they are attacking to support their candidate however .

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
24. Their attitude is extremely off-putting
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:41 AM
Jun 2016

For the past year they've never wanted to talk about issues, only process questions. And when they do talk issues they use Republican talking points and intellectually dishonest arguments.

And I honestly have never tried either sushi or a latte so it was just really strange.

NanceGreggs

(27,835 posts)
29. OMG, this is hysterical!
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:02 AM
Jun 2016
"For the past year they've never wanted to talk about issues, only process questions."

Who has made an issue of "the process" at every turn? "It's rigged! The primaries are closed - they should be open! The DNC is conspiring against me!"

"And when they do talk issues they use Republican talking points.

Ever noticed how many Bernie supporters link to RW sources in order to make a anti-HRC/anti-Dem point? It's not the HRCers who are doing that, is it?




NanceGreggs

(27,835 posts)
38. Snappy comeback.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:15 AM
Jun 2016

It doesn't replace thought and substance - but it's a noble attempt to draw attention away from the lack thereof.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
39. it's true. There's no point trying to reason with people who just repeat the same scripted talking
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:17 AM
Jun 2016

points ad nauseum.

NanceGreggs

(27,835 posts)
41. Well, you would know ...
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:21 AM
Jun 2016

... more about "people who just repeat the same scripted talking points" than most people here.

 

AntiBank

(1,339 posts)
42. Sanders people consistently attack Hillary on policy AND post positive on Sanders policies
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:27 AM
Jun 2016

In terms of process, the myriad number of dodgy things that happened in the primaries almost always went against Sanders.


The Clinton crew on here pretty much refuse to debate on the issues. Clinton is (or was and probably will be again) absolute shite on many core issues. All they do is fling the systemic process (only the part that favours Hillary) and vote totals around like a big stick.

Yes, I know, it sucks having to support a candidate who is right centre (and neoliberal/neocon-loved) on so many issues whilst being a member of a LEFT liberal chatboard. And don't tell me that this board (and Party) are not supposed to be progressive ffs.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
53. .. except they surreptitiously pitch policies which will clearly be on Hillary's agenda if she worms
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 07:44 AM
Jun 2016

her way into the WH, without actuall mentioning her name in the posts. They are generally by vocal Hillary supporters, and they pitch obvious neoliberal policies. It's like they are already warming up for defending her real planned agenda for when she stops channeling Bernie.

mercuryblues

(14,636 posts)
64. a reminder
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 09:26 AM
Jun 2016

on who is saying Clinton supporters don't want to talk about issues:

Clinton did nothing to stop Apartheid as 1st Lady of Arkansas

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511942936

Go fuck yourself

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512090872

Heck, just look at the hides and ask yourself why is it Clinton supporters aren't jumping through hoops to gain his support. He is slacking though. The record hides stands at 24. He has some work to do, to break the record.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
46. I'm positive they're Repubicans.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:13 AM
Jun 2016

"Free stuff" "socialist" "dirty hippies" "get a job" -- everything but "obamaphone." Brock probably warned them not to use that one.

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Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
31. You're probably not aware of this but we have long term Freeper right here on DU
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:03 AM
Jun 2016

We don't need to go to Free Republic to find out what the Freepers think, we can ask our own resident DU Freeper.

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
51. This is what the BBC says.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:37 AM
Jun 2016
Hillary Clinton has clinched the Democratic nomination for US president after reaching the required number of delegates, an AP tally suggests.

The count puts Mrs Clinton on 2,383 - the number needed to make her the presumptive nominee.

She will become the first female nominee for a major US political party.

But rival Bernie Sanders said Mrs Clinton had not won as she was dependent on superdelegates who could not vote until July's party convention.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-36466228

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
52. The Establishment likes simple narratives like winners and losers.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:40 AM
Jun 2016

They've been jumping the gun, a little, for quite a while. This is just more of the same.

They'll also turn out to have been right, tnough, if nothing big changes.

Vinca

(50,484 posts)
56. What if something happened to make the superdelegates change their minds?
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 08:04 AM
Jun 2016

Does AP then "uncall" the race? This all seems more ratings motivated than news or journalism (whatever the hell that is anymore).

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
60. Holy shit! Next thing you know, they'll claim water is wet.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 08:40 AM
Jun 2016

Camp Weathervane critical thinking skills...

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
61. Sounding like Freepers hasn't stopped anyone so far. Why would now be any different?
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 08:40 AM
Jun 2016

Haters gonna hate, after all.

Tarc

(10,491 posts)
62. I think the vast majority of Bernie supporters are not suckered in by FR's faux sympathies
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 08:41 AM
Jun 2016

Some of the weirder elements of the Sanders base like to pretend that there's some sort of commonality between them and the Trumpy fans, a kind of outsider cred. The rest know that, if Bernie were the nominee, they'd turn on him in an instant.

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