2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThese complaints about the AP calling the race? They're saying the EXACT SAME THING at Free Republic
"Superdeletes don't count until the convention." "It's a dirty trick to suppress Bernie votes." The Freepers are saying all of these things. If you're making the same argument as Freepers, shouldn't that give you some pause?
danimich1
(175 posts)If those idiots recognize it but you are in denial.
Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)They're just interested in smearing Hillary. And they want to prop up Bernie because they think he hurts Hillary.
840high
(17,196 posts)what election integrity is.
Demsrule86
(70,800 posts)The double teaming is done.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)What's your login over there, I'll go check it out.
Not familiar with that site, how do I find this discussion?
Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)And I got banned for trolling the Freepers (by posting their kryptonite: facts) years ago.
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randome
(34,845 posts)Is this some 'scorched earth' policy from some of you, now? "I didn't get my way so I'm going to try and insult as many people as possible!"
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
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randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
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NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Demsrule86
(70,800 posts)They know they can beat him.
eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)Demsrule86
(70,800 posts)I have no doubt that some of Sander's support comes from the GOP employing operation chaos.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)democrattotheend
(12,007 posts)Or at least like him better than Trump or Hillary. Not the strategic voting type - they would actually vote for Bernie in November if given the chance. I also met a couple Republicans when I handed out Bernie flyers at the train station during the primary who said they disagreed with him but liked him and would rather have him than Trump.
That said, I doubt the freerepublic types are in that camp.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)writes3000
(4,810 posts)democrattotheend
(12,007 posts)I have over 8,000 posts, joined 13 years ago, but because I think the AP jumped the gun and in so doing hurt both of the candidates I'm a plant from freerepublic?
writes3000
(4,810 posts)PS - It's pretty apparent who purposefully stirs the pot around here. They're usually new and quite assertive with extreme pronouncements designed to start fights.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)The fact that you don't understand how the delegates are supposed to work should give you some pause.
If it were just the AP announcement, I'd probably not think it's necessarily connected to Hillary, but the fact that 20+ supers decided to announce support for her, in unison, the night before the Cali vote, that kinda changed my mind. I think this is a party ploy, and AP is in on it.
democrattotheend
(12,007 posts)It doesn't seem like it, which is what is weird. Have a bunch of supers actually publicly announced for her in the last 24-48 hours, or did they just answer the AP's questions?
Even if it's the latter, it could be that the supers decided to tell the AP where they stood earlier because they knew Clinton's internal polling in Cali looked bad and they wanted to minimize the impact.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)and somehow one more than needed to "clinch" the nomination (invalid at this point...but hell they do what they want), decided to say Yeah, count me in, but please don't tell anyone I support her. What, are they ashamed to admit it?
Something wicked this way comes.
TheFarS1de
(1,017 posts)By insinuating the Sanders supporters are actually freepers .
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)TheFarS1de
(1,017 posts)I just had to make sure this was not a rethuglican site based on the free stuff mantra they spread everywhere .
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)On DU. Pretty awesome. Because I said the TPP would hurt American workers. It made literally no sense even as an insult.
I think some of the paid trolls are probably Republicans so those are the insults and talking points they know of.
TheFarS1de
(1,017 posts)they are obviously not paying much , a horde of semi literate bullies may get the job done , not so good if you want the people they are attacking to support their candidate however .
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)For the past year they've never wanted to talk about issues, only process questions. And when they do talk issues they use Republican talking points and intellectually dishonest arguments.
And I honestly have never tried either sushi or a latte so it was just really strange.
NanceGreggs
(27,835 posts)Who has made an issue of "the process" at every turn? "It's rigged! The primaries are closed - they should be open! The DNC is conspiring against me!"
"And when they do talk issues they use Republican talking points.
Ever noticed how many Bernie supporters link to RW sources in order to make a anti-HRC/anti-Dem point? It's not the HRCers who are doing that, is it?
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,835 posts)It doesn't replace thought and substance - but it's a noble attempt to draw attention away from the lack thereof.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)points ad nauseum.
NanceGreggs
(27,835 posts)... more about "people who just repeat the same scripted talking points" than most people here.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)you're killin me here
Excellent retort
AntiBank
(1,339 posts)In terms of process, the myriad number of dodgy things that happened in the primaries almost always went against Sanders.
The Clinton crew on here pretty much refuse to debate on the issues. Clinton is (or was and probably will be again) absolute shite on many core issues. All they do is fling the systemic process (only the part that favours Hillary) and vote totals around like a big stick.
Yes, I know, it sucks having to support a candidate who is right centre (and neoliberal/neocon-loved) on so many issues whilst being a member of a LEFT liberal chatboard. And don't tell me that this board (and Party) are not supposed to be progressive ffs.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)her way into the WH, without actuall mentioning her name in the posts. They are generally by vocal Hillary supporters, and they pitch obvious neoliberal policies. It's like they are already warming up for defending her real planned agenda for when she stops channeling Bernie.
mercuryblues
(14,917 posts)on who is saying Clinton supporters don't want to talk about issues:
Clinton did nothing to stop Apartheid as 1st Lady of Arkansas
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511942936
Go fuck yourself
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512090872
Heck, just look at the hides and ask yourself why is it Clinton supporters aren't jumping through hoops to gain his support. He is slacking though. The record hides stands at 24. He has some work to do, to break the record.
senz
(11,945 posts)"Free stuff" "socialist" "dirty hippies" "get a job" -- everything but "obamaphone." Brock probably warned them not to use that one.
AntiBank
(1,339 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)MFM008
(19,984 posts)Response to Lord Magus (Original post)
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AntiBank
(1,339 posts)buh bye
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Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)We don't need to go to Free Republic to find out what the Freepers think, we can ask our own resident DU Freeper.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)arikara
(5,562 posts)n/t
tarheelsunc
(2,117 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(100,013 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Bad Dog
(2,025 posts)Hillary Clinton has clinched the Democratic nomination for US president after reaching the required number of delegates, an AP tally suggests.
The count puts Mrs Clinton on 2,383 - the number needed to make her the presumptive nominee.
She will become the first female nominee for a major US political party.
But rival Bernie Sanders said Mrs Clinton had not won as she was dependent on superdelegates who could not vote until July's party convention.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-36466228
Orsino
(37,428 posts)They've been jumping the gun, a little, for quite a while. This is just more of the same.
They'll also turn out to have been right, tnough, if nothing big changes.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Bernie followers claimed common ground unfortunately.
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)/bye
Vinca
(50,854 posts)Does AP then "uncall" the race? This all seems more ratings motivated than news or journalism (whatever the hell that is anymore).
Darb
(2,807 posts)Very curious.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Camp Weathervane critical thinking skills...
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)Haters gonna hate, after all.
Tarc
(10,559 posts)Some of the weirder elements of the Sanders base like to pretend that there's some sort of commonality between them and the Trumpy fans, a kind of outsider cred. The rest know that, if Bernie were the nominee, they'd turn on him in an instant.