The blame for a President Trump lies with the person who encouraged him to run.

[Skwmom]

Now who could that be?

[MFM008]

1. Rump intended to run

and we dont know what transpired in the conversation.
It doesn't matter because he might not make it out of the convention.

[tonyt53]

2. I've told people to eat shit and die, but I never meant it.

Maybe Bill could see into the future.

[notadmblnd]

27. So why do you say it then?

[HooptieWagon]

33. Maybe it's in the script?

[NCTraveler]

3. .

[Jaybird]

4. Why are u here?

Really, why?

[still_one]

46. six more days

[seabeyond]

5. Have you had ONE positive post on Democrats, EVER?

[Skwmom]

23. I have been on this board since 2001 so of course I do. I have posted positive stuff about

Bernie, but of course, it's hard to keep up with the he's a Democrat, he's not a Democrat, he's a Democrat pendulum so maybe you don't consider him a Democrat.

And I am sick and tired of being told that Bernie supporters will be blamed for a President Trump.

[seabeyond]

35. So, Sanders is the only "Democratic" you praise? I do not care who you vote for. Do what

you want. This is a Democratic board where Democrats chat. To want into another group and do nothing but diss all that group is annoying and tiresome as hell.

[CorkySt.Clair]

38. Six more days.

[brush]

70. Stop it already. That racist, student-scamming clown is not going to win.

The repugs are even trying to figure out how dump him.

[Juicy_Bellows]

6. Ain't that somethin'?

Heads I win, tails you lose.

Our democracies favorite game of late.

[TwilightZone]

7. Trump and Clinton have both denied it, but thanks for playing.

"Four Trump allies and one Clinton associate familiar with the exchange said that Clinton encouraged Trump’s efforts to play a larger role in the Republican Party and offered his own views of the political landscape.

Clinton’s personal office in New York confirmed that the call occurred in late May, but an aide to Clinton said the 2016 race was never specifically discussed and that it was only a casual chat. "

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bill-clinton-called-donald-trump-ahead-of-republicans-2016-launch/2015/08/05/e2b30bb8-3ae3-11e5-b3ac-8a79bc44e5e2_story.html

Even everyone's favorite, the RW Daily Mail, says it never happened.

[Skwmom]

24. Bezo's tabloid rag is hardly known for its truth in reporting.

[MyNameGoesHere]

43. Hmm. tRump has the same feeling towards the Washington post.

Where did he get that from?

[greyl]

8. It was a Celebrity Apprentice contestant.

(And there is no President Trump)

[bvf]

62. You forgot to add "yet."

[Lord Magus]

9. That story about Bill Clinton telling tRump to run is phony.

Not every rumor that circulates online is true, you know.

[bigwillq]

10. WJC.

[Ferd Berfel]

11. I'm doubting that Drumpf will be the nom

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2168260

[Skwmom]

26. I know the corporate media, the Democratic Establishment, and the Republican Establishment -

Corporate Neocons sure are trying to keep if from happening. Since we've been constantly told she will win against Trump in a landslide, I can't imagine why the Democratic Establishment and Corporate Media aren't doing everything they can to make sure Trump is the nominee?

[Ferd Berfel]

29. I"m sure the neo-Dems are trying

but the Reich will want to try and win.

[redstateblues]

44. So many straw men- it must be exhausting for you

to create them, knock them down and then claim victory

[jamese777]

57. Bull

I have not heard one legitimate and knowledgeable mainstream media source predict that Clinton will win in a landslide. It is much too early for any prediction to be taken seriously.
Trump is the nominee because he won more primaries and caucuses than his opponents. Clinton is the nominee because she won 33 caucuses and primaries to Sanders' 23.

[Downwinder]

12. Haven't heard any Republicans claim the honor.

[onenote]

14. Somehow I think we'll manage to get by here without you after next week

But I do worry a bit about what you'll do without us.

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[Ace Rothstein]

15. Just admit it.

You are ok with Trump being President as it means Clinton will have lost.

[PJMcK]

16. Not sure what point you're trying to make

It seems like you're blaming President Bill Clinton for Donald Trump's candidacy. I'm fairly certain that Mr. Trump does pretty much anything he wants to, based on watching him since the 1980's.

Or is your observation about President Clinton's wife?

Perhaps you could expand on your thoughts.

[scscholar]

17. So Fridays are blame Hillary Day?

Just because she advised him to run, he is still responsible for his own actions.

[Skwmom]

28. Everyday is blame the Bernie Supporters day.

[Duval]

55. You got that right! Sigh!

[Hekate]

47. No no no, you've got to get your LW/RW rumors correct: it was BILL ...

According to the breathless the Big Dog and The Trumpster had a phone conversation and when DT said he wanted to run for POTUS, Bill Clinton told him to go for it.

Various sources deny it. Trash press reports it as fact.

What amazes me is that lefties who don't like either of the Clintons are frothing at how Macchiavellian they are!!!!!11!

Meanwhile, Trump is ripping the GOP apart. The Grand Old Party actually may not even survive the Trump experience.

If I really believed the rumor, I'd want to shake Bill's hand, not kick his wife in the shins.

[NurseJackie]

18. There, there, now. Let it all out.

PS: This shit stops on the 16th.

[BootinUp]

20. +1 LOL

[redstateblues]

45. What she said-plus 1

[brooklynite]

19. Let me tighten that headline up for you...

The credit for encouraging Donald Trump to run for President and causing the Republican Party to crash and burn lies with the most politically savvy President we've had in decades.

[Hav]

25. Lol

It is apparently not true but if it were, damn, what a genius Bill would be. Trump is the nightmare of the Republican party who could have an effect for generations. His support from the Rep leader in the House is very soft, the Rep leader in the Senate hates him and Republicans in moderate states will be running away from him.
Brilliant work. MVP!

[PJMcK]

34. I agree

If former President Clinton influenced Donald Trump, in any way, to run for president, it was a masterful political move. Anyone who has observed Donald Trump knows exactly what he's like and how wonderful it would be if he was punked by President Clinton!

[Skwmom]

30. But, the best laid plans of mice and men...

[Duval]

56. and this one went "astray" big time.

[msongs]

21. the blame for bernie's loss lies with the person who encourage him to run. see how that works? nt

[kstewart33]

22. Now respectfully, that is ridiculous.

The blame will lie with the American public - those who voted for him, those who stayed home, and those who threw away their vote in support of some nonviable candidate.

Think voting for Nader in 2000, the genius who said that there's not a dime's worth of difference between Gore and GWB.

[That Guy 888]

59. * and his bro, katherine harris, the Supreme Court, Gore and the DNC cost Gore the election.

At the end of the day, the DNC decided that there wasn't a dime's worth of difference between Gore and GWB and told Gore not to fight.

[kstewart33]

61. Hard to believe that.

Gore's people were simply outmaneuvered.

[That Guy 888]

65. If I remember correctly, the powers-that-be in the DNC

Decided that contesting the election would lead to a weakened Presidency no matter who won in the end. It's why the Democratic Senators certified the Florida election results and refused to let any member of the Congressional Black Caucus speak out against it. I believe as VP Gore could have allowed (is it recognized?) a member of the CBC and allowed them to speak as well, he did not. Any full recount of Florida would have lead to a Gore victory.

I despise what the republicans are. The only "praise" I have for them is that they won't give up. Unfortunately it's always shit that hurts America and Americans that they won't give up on, but they are tenacious. I don't think snarl or * would have blushed at all over making a (in Gore's case) legitimate grab for power.

[felix_numinous]

31. The same people who censor any discussion about election reform

or corruption in politics. The same people who demonstrate unprecedented hostility toward potential voters, censoring their presence online just like in the polls.

We would have to be INSANE to support someone who has demonstrated OPEN HOSTILITY toward us by attempting to force us out of our right to representation. We would have to be fucking nuts.

So don't burn out too many brain cells trying to figure out why people don't support the premature inevitable coronation, because this election has been truly un-American and un-democratic.

It is understandable to volley insults back and forth--but to interfere with an election will give the Clintons a legacy they will never live down.

[Skwmom]

32. The irony that this board was started after the election theft of 2000...

[felix_numinous]

39. Irony got killed

by the promise of silver and gold.

[Duval]

58. I chased someone down in a parking lot to find a Progressive site, waaay back then.

And I was so grateful for DU and Kos. It is so sad.

[Tarc]

37. I think someone's a bit jelly that he didn't think of it first,

[Agnosticsherbet]

36. That would be Trump.

[TwilightZone]

48. Seems kind of obvious, no?

[Agnosticsherbet]

50. Especially with his aborted 2012 run.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/16/donald-trump-us-presidential-race

He pulled out then, a sort of premature e-trumpulation.

[rug]

40. He handed the election to Democrats.

[wyldwolf]

41. tick tick tick tick

[Skwmom]

69. No, all she needed was the DNC, the Corporate Media, staged dog and pony shows, purged voters, etc..

[WhiteTara]

42. The "blame" for Trump is the millions

of people who voted for him.

[Octafish]

49. That guy?

[pampango]

52. I doubt Trump and his massive ego needed much encouragement.

Though scapegoats do come in handy.

[XRubicon]

53. No, the blame would belong to the morons who vote for him

I know that is hard for you to comprehend, but give it a try.

Also, the winner of the primary is the one who got the most votes. Another tough one for you I'm sure.

[Silver_Witch]

54. I know...I know....

it was Bill Clinton.

"Bill Clinton encouraged Donald Trump to run for President during a phone call before he decided to run for president. Steve Handelsman reports."

[Lance Bass esquire]

60. Give me a break

Give me a break .Give me a break
Give me the taste of that Kit Kat Bar.

[Bobbie Jo]

63. Reeeeaching....

[kadaholo]

64. Ever Consider...

...Bill's encouragement was a set-up? Just sayin'...

[emulatorloo]

66. 1: Urban Legend. 2: Trump Voters are responsible for Trump's nomination and

Trump voters will be responsible for President Trump.

I get that you want to 'punish' HRC and exact some sort of 'vengeance' on her supporters here.

I think that's bullshit.

[JoePhilly]

67. na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey ... goodbye.

We know what you are.

So say Hi to Trump for us.

We're about to kick his ass.

[Ken Burch]

68. Did he need to be convinced? I thought he convinced himself.

Who do YOU think convinced him?