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PredictWise 2016 President Electoral Map as of 06-14-2016 5:06AM (Original Post) Alfresco Jun 2016 OP
Thanks...good news nt. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #1
I don't know about giving Ohio to Dems this year. Ash_F Jun 2016 #2
Clinton is popular in Ohio Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #3
Trump is popular in Ohio, too. thesquanderer Jun 2016 #4
And their Governor was in the race RockaFowler Jun 2016 #7
But even though he lost to Kasich, he STILL got more votes than Hillary. Scary. (n/t) thesquanderer Jun 2016 #8
Ohio was definitely skewed. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #12
Predictwise gives Trump 1-in-3 chance of winning Ohio which is not nothing. I wouldn't call it safe. thesquanderer Jun 2016 #21
Trade Ash_F Jun 2016 #6
She won Ohio. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #9
They're shifting into Debbie Downer mode CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #10
because they hate her and really want Trump to win...which is all sorts of sad. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #13
Oh no doubt about it! CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #14
Or maybe I am hoping Clinton will come closer to the center(her left) on the TPP issue Ash_F Jun 2016 #15
Meh...she'll win Ohio PepperHarlan Jun 2016 #16
You are not wrong about his campaign Ash_F Jun 2016 #17
Yeah, true, just a little early to get worried about turnout PepperHarlan Jun 2016 #19
PS - I do think it hurt her against Bernie Ash_F Jun 2016 #18
I think that's exactly leftynyc Jun 2016 #5
I hope!! nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #11
If Trump continues on dropping this fast .99center Jun 2016 #20

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
3. Clinton is popular in Ohio
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:50 PM
Jun 2016

She will win. And Michigan has a hated governor...having a GOP in the White House would only hurt them...they will go Dem as well.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
4. Trump is popular in Ohio, too.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 01:34 PM
Jun 2016

In the Ohio Dem primary, Hillary won with 679k votes. In the Republican primary, Trump *lost* and still got 727k votes. Ohio has open primaries, so anyone could vote for whoever they wanted, so it's not skewed simply by more people being eligible to vote in the R primary.

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
7. And their Governor was in the race
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 04:33 PM
Jun 2016

The only way Drumpf can actually win Ohio is if Kasich runs with him. I doubt that will happen, though.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
12. Ohio was definitely skewed.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:05 PM
Jun 2016

Open primaries are not good. I hate ours. it allows the GOP to play games. Ohio will not go for Trump...wait for it...and of course, Bernie got less votes than either Trump or Clinton...so trade didn't help him...a socialist can not win Ohio.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
6. Trade
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 04:31 PM
Jun 2016

TPP is not popular in the rust belt and I feel Trump will attack from that angle, as he has already.

That said, it looks like the the Republicans are really turning against him the past couple weeks, probably because of TPP. If that sticks, then Dems will be ok.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
9. She won Ohio.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:02 PM
Jun 2016

And Trade cuts both ways these days..steel took a dump earlier when China was having trouble...in Ohio. Trump will not beat Hillary in Ohio...the only rust belt state he won was Michigan. Wisconsin is a different beast entirely...lived there too.

 

CorkySt.Clair

(1,507 posts)
10. They're shifting into Debbie Downer mode
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:04 PM
Jun 2016

Everything and anything is bad for Hillary, no matter what it is.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
15. Or maybe I am hoping Clinton will come closer to the center(her left) on the TPP issue
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:19 PM
Jun 2016

More Republicans voted in Ohio this year than Democrats. Was that true in 2008?

Sticking your head in the sand is sad.

 

PepperHarlan

(124 posts)
16. Meh...she'll win Ohio
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:31 PM
Jun 2016

The other poster is probably a little too dismissive but I think all things being equal by the end of this his campaign will be such a monkey fuck he'll have difficulty competing. We're already seeing the beginnings of a significant financing gap between the two which is another benefiT.

Her history with the TPP (she's now opposed to it) didn't hurt her one bit in Ohio against Bernie, a candidate who should have been able to exploit a weakness if there was one. She'll have to address it again but it's unlikely to be a significant issue in a race against someone like Trump.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
17. You are not wrong about his campaign
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:34 PM
Jun 2016
"It's a mess"

But the turnout numbers in the battleground states were disturbing this year. R's had more in most(all?) states.

That should not be ignored, regardless of who Dems are running this year.
 

PepperHarlan

(124 posts)
19. Yeah, true, just a little early to get worried about turnout
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:36 PM
Jun 2016

I actually think there will be quite a bit of interest in this race which could lead to a good turnout. Time will tell.

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