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Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:24 PM

Dr. West said it best

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/cornel-west-black-americas-neoliberal-sleepwalking-ending

Cornel West: Why the US Empire Is More Ripe for Right-Wing Revolution Than from the Left
Cornel West talks Bernie Sanders’ neopopulism and Donald Trump’s neofascism.
By George Souvlis / Open Democracy
June 13, 2016


Cornel West (CW): We are at a crossroads in American history. We must choose between a neofascism in the making (Trump), neoliberalism in the decaying (Clinton), and a neopopulism in the ascending (Sanders). The establishments in both the Democratic and Republican parties are disintegrating.


Indeed.

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Rebkeh Jun 2016 OP
NurseJackie Jun 2016 #1
CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #7
MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #44
NurseJackie Jun 2016 #57
choie Jun 2016 #80
CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #2
bravenak Jun 2016 #3
1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #77
bravenak Jun 2016 #87
CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #4
guillaumeb Jun 2016 #8
CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #9
guillaumeb Jun 2016 #13
CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #16
guillaumeb Jun 2016 #20
Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #32
1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #78
TwilightZone Jun 2016 #18
guillaumeb Jun 2016 #23
bettyellen Jun 2016 #52
Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #33
Octafish Jun 2016 #5
randome Jun 2016 #12
panader0 Jun 2016 #38
randome Jun 2016 #42
Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #34
RufusTFirefly Jun 2016 #65
swhisper1 Jun 2016 #68
guillaumeb Jun 2016 #6
Snotcicles Jun 2016 #48
msongs Jun 2016 #10
azurnoir Jun 2016 #19
WhiteTara Jun 2016 #54
azurnoir Jun 2016 #55
WhiteTara Jun 2016 #64
azurnoir Jun 2016 #70
swhisper1 Jun 2016 #60
WhiteTara Jun 2016 #66
swhisper1 Jun 2016 #69
geek tragedy Jun 2016 #11
Capt. Obvious Jun 2016 #14
arcane1 Jun 2016 #21
Capt. Obvious Jun 2016 #29
PragmaticLiberal Jun 2016 #41
floriduck Jun 2016 #56
swhisper1 Jun 2016 #61
SidDithers Jun 2016 #15
workinclasszero Jun 2016 #58
BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #17
TwilightZone Jun 2016 #22
Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #24
CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #26
bravenak Jun 2016 #30
Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #37
bravenak Jun 2016 #40
oasis Jun 2016 #83
Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #25
tonyt53 Jun 2016 #27
KingFlorez Jun 2016 #28
highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #31
Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #36
highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #39
Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #50
highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #72
bettyellen Jun 2016 #51
highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #71
bettyellen Jun 2016 #82
highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #85
senz Jun 2016 #35
Hydra Jun 2016 #43
Snotcicles Jun 2016 #49
swhisper1 Jun 2016 #62
Tarc Jun 2016 #45
grossproffit Jun 2016 #47
Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #53
swhisper1 Jun 2016 #63
Tarc Jun 2016 #67
Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #73
Tarc Jun 2016 #75
Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #79
Tarc Jun 2016 #81
oberliner Jun 2016 #84
Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #46
swhisper1 Jun 2016 #59
uponit7771 Jun 2016 #74
rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #76
skylucy Jun 2016 #86
grossproffit Jun 2016 #88
LexVegas Jun 2016 #89
LWolf Jun 2016 #90
NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #91
Orsino Jun 2016 #92

Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:25 PM

1. He's nutty. After the things he's said about President Obama ...

... I'm convinced he's not all-there.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:29 PM

7. He's probably sane, but petty.

 

Michael Eric Dyson wrote a profile on him several years ago. Apparently the Obama hate started when West found out the doorman at his hotel in DC had already secured tickets to Obama's inauguration. But when West arrived in DC his ticket status was still up in the air.

Because, you know, an important intellectual elite like Dr. West can't be seen to get lesser treatment than a lowly doorman.

What a clown he is.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 09:21 PM

44. Thank goodness the truth does not count on your being convinced...

There is a difference between the devotion of thought and allegiance to defeat those you don't fancy.

Candidates promising bread and circuses while they broker corporate control are little better than fascist regimes. If you even devoted so much thought to that all these years, you would likely agree with Cornell West.

He escapes you. That's not news... It's just unfortunate to see how you dress it up as if you have a mechanism of being "convinced".

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Response to MrMickeysMom (Reply #44)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:35 PM

57. He's full of himself. Can't stand him.

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Response to MrMickeysMom (Reply #44)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 05:04 PM

80. You're spot on MMM!

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Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:25 PM

2. He only deserves two words of response: F*** him.

 

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Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:26 PM

3. We actually only have two choices now. Bernie is OUT. Lost DC badly.

 

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Response to bravenak (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:16 PM

77. While I don't accept Dr. West's characterization of HRC's politics/political agenda ...

 

Maybe he was talking about next time.

I mean, a movement, generally, takes more than one election cycle. There will be plenty of choices, votes and work to do.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #77)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:37 AM

87. I never understand Dr West these days

 

Once he went on about Brother Trump and Brother Jeb, I decided he just says shit to say shit.

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Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:26 PM

4. West

 

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Response to CorkySt.Clair (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:30 PM

8. Subtle and nuanced. eom

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:30 PM

9. West is an insufferable birthday party clown.

 

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Response to CorkySt.Clair (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:33 PM

13. And I repeat,

subtle, and nuanced.

Perhaps he raises issues that make you uncomfortable in your support?

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #13)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:36 PM

16. Pfft.

 

I don't give much credence to the thoughts of people who slur President Obama, whether they come from the left or the right.

But I bet you're fine with all of that. The slurs I mean.

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Response to CorkySt.Clair (Reply #16)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:40 PM

20. Is it a slur to point out that President Obama has deported more people than Bush?

Is it a slur to point out the various drone killings that President Obama has sanctioned, and the significant civilian casualties from those attacks?

Perhaps you should define "slur".

What you apparently call "slur" I call reality.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #20)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:55 PM

32. It is a slur to call Obama a house you know what.

West is slime...and is dead to me.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #20)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:21 PM

78. Perhaps, not ... But there is (should be) no question ...

 

that calling (President) Obama America's niggerized President, is a slur. Right?

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #13)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:39 PM

18. He should make anyone who finds calling President Obama the n-word appalling uncomfortable.

Does it make you uncomfortable?

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #18)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:43 PM

23. Do you remember the context of his remarks?

While I strongly disagree with his choice of words in that situation, the fact is that President Obama has been called that by many in this country.

But West was making, however crudely, a particular point.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #23)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:26 PM

52. Sure many a RW night has called him the same or worse.....

 

Not sure if you have a point?

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #18)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:56 PM

33. It makes me very very angry...and dislike Bernie more for association with this Fox groupie.

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Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:27 PM

5. Cornel West is a man of integrity. He bothers those who go along with warmongers and banksters.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:32 PM

12. No, he bothers some because he's a loud-mouth who fancies himself an intellectual.

 

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Response to randome (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 06:04 PM

38. Undergraduate degree from Harvard, PHD from Princeton, taught at Harvard.

Many more distinctions. He is an intellectual by any definition of the word.

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Response to panader0 (Reply #38)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 07:46 PM

42. Only according to the technicalities, imo.

 

Anyone who falls back on vulgar language is a pseudo-intellectual, imo.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:57 PM

34. Must you post this abomination? I have no interest in anything that man says. nt

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Response to Octafish (Reply #5)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:45 PM

65. +1 for Octafish and Brother West! n/t

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Response to Octafish (Reply #5)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:48 PM

68. amen, fellow human

 

fight against the robots and pity the fools who follow their bluster. the "can't" people

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Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:29 PM

6. Neoliberalism is a worldview that Obama and Clinton share.

And their respective actions show it. That makes some of their supporters uncomfortable and so they must attack whoever mentions it.

Recommended.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 10:53 PM

48. +1.nt

 

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Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:31 PM

10. did bernie get "dr." west his own F-35, speaking of corporate war propagators nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:40 PM

19. No but someone managed to sell some to Israel

they most likely paid with some of $3+billion we're giving them annually, because as the fine print says they have to spend at least 75% of it on US manufactured weapons, and the F-35 is made by Lockheed which is a US manufacturer of a number of military aircraft- or how your tax dollars make their way into the pockets of the MIC via foreign aid

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #19)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:29 PM

54. Go Bernie!

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #54)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:31 PM

55. Bernie didn't sell them to Israel-why ever would you think that?

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #55)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:45 PM

64. No he just promotes Lockheed-Martin

and the most expensive plane ever built.

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #64)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:50 PM

70. The first F-35's were sold to Israel while Clinton was a Senator-the second batch while she was SoS

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #54)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:40 PM

60. clinton was behind that sale

 

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Response to swhisper1 (Reply #60)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:45 PM

66. And he promotes that company.

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #66)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:49 PM

69. so does the pentagon, congress,and Hillary, what is your point?

 

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Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:32 PM

11. the man who helped bring us the Matrix sequels nt

 

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Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:35 PM

14. AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Reply #14)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:42 PM

21. Of course it was. He's the "wrong kind" of black man.

 

The kind that doesn't endorse Clinton.

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #21)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:53 PM

29. Hopefully someone posts the results of the alert on your post.

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #21)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 06:26 PM

41. President Obama is "the wrong kind" of black man according to Dr. West.

The kind that "feels most comfortable with upper middle-class white and Jewish men"---- Dr Cornell West





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Response to Capt. Obvious (Reply #14)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:32 PM

56. Wow, whoever alerted on this must be a ragingly unhappy individual. Did he/she forget that the

 

primaries are over and the July 25th formality is awaiting? A few deep breaths are in order.

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Response to floriduck (Reply #56)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:42 PM

61. wow is right, someone needs to step away from the alert button

 

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Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:36 PM

15. He helped Bernie win South Carolina!...nt

Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #15)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:37 PM

58. He sure did!

 

Oh...wait...


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Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:37 PM

17. Doesn't Cornel West ever get tired of being wrong all the time?

 

So much bitterness over not getting inauguration tickets. Sweet jeezus...

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Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:43 PM

22. Someone should let him know that the primaries are over.

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Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:46 PM

24. What in the name of fuck is this even?



The myopic careerism and chronic narcissism that prevented any serious critique of Obama's neoliberalism are now out in the open, owing to the courageous young people who stood in the face of military tanks in order to show their love of those shot down by unaccountable police under a Black president, Black attorney general and Black homeland security cabinet member. What an indictment of neoliberal Black power in the face of massive Black suffering, highlighted by Black Lives Matter activists. And this is just the peak of an iceberg melting for Black elites, who went silent and opted for symbolic crumbs, when precious poor Black people were being crushed. Martin King, Malcolm X, and Fannie Lou Hamer cry out from the grave—then smile at the Black Lives Matter activists.



I think I will associate myself with Melissa Harris Perry's assessment of West.

"Melissa Harris-Perry, a professor of political science at Tulane University, criticized what she described as the "utter hilarity" of West's statements, writing that his comments are a "classic projection of his own comfortably ensconced life at Harvard and Princeton Universities" "

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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #24)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:49 PM

26. Michael Eric Dyson had a good profile on him several years ago.

 

It sort of laid bare what a fraud West is. Or is to those who aren't completely gullible.

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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #24)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:53 PM

30. He is just so...

 

I really have no idea wtf is wrong with him

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Response to bravenak (Reply #30)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 06:01 PM

37. It's like the speech in Animal House, about the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor.

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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #37)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 06:05 PM

40. It really is. I can't say exactly when he got this way

 

I had assumed it was not him that had this worldview but I soon learned I was wrong. It all came from him, the top guy.

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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #24)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:41 AM

83. Melissa Harris-Perry got it right.

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Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:48 PM

25. Ugh...Dr. West the Fox groupie and Obama hater says nothing worthwhile..not ever! nt

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Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:49 PM

27. Just because West says it is so, sure doesn't mean that it is. He is a very sad person.

 

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Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:53 PM

28. He's just angry because he won't get a cabinet position

You can bet that Sanders promised him some sort of high level cabinet position in exchange for being a surrogate. Thankfully that won't happen. Cornel West would be a disaster as a cabinet member.

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Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:54 PM

31. Sounds right to me but will be discredited automatically because he called Obama some bad names.

 

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Response to highprincipleswork (Reply #31)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:59 PM

36. Damn right

And I would expect a Democrat to understand this.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #36)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 06:05 PM

39. Bullshit. I don't idolize any leader, and President Obama has done some pretty horrible

 

negotiating with Republicans while playing golf with John Boehner.

I would expect any Democrat to realize that.

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Response to highprincipleswork (Reply #39)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:21 PM

50. I save my attacks for the real cuprits...the evil GOP.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #50)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 03:14 PM

72. Those who collude with them and help pass their agenda when Congress is largely Democratic are

 

equally or perhaps even more to blame.

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Response to highprincipleswork (Reply #39)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:25 PM

51. Playing golf, attending funerals with the enemy, omg the horrors.

 

It's bizarro world for sure, where only the unelectable are ever ANY good. Lol.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #51)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 03:13 PM

71. Bernie's not unelectable, except for swiftboating by people who should know better. Or perhaps

 

everyone left who is an enthused Democrat is just a Corporatist.

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Response to highprincipleswork (Reply #71)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 08:08 PM

82. Everyone else except Bernie is a sucky corporatist- yeah we got the memo.

 

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #82)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:35 AM

85. Not sure that you did, if you look at who gets supported. But you should get it.

 

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Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 05:59 PM

35. Thank you, Rebkeh. Dr. West is brilliant, a great analyst, which is much needed today.

 

I've been concerned about translating Bernie's beautiful awakening into a durable social movement. Of course what Bernie has done is a prod, a good start, but much remains to create a full-fledged social movement. So I appreciate West's analysis:

Political campaigns are not social movements. Even great campaigns like those of Jackson in the 80s, Obama in the recent past or Sanders today are not social movements. We must distinguish between social momentums, social rebellions and social movements. Given the massive national security state and the pervasive carceral state, social movements are rare—past, present and future. The American Empire is more ripe for a counter-revolution than revolution, for right-wing movements than left-wing ones. This is so primarily because of the deep xenophobic roots in the country and profound militaristic sentiments in the culture. Hence, progressive social momentums and chaotic social rebellions are more likely to reshape our priorities and gain some concessions from greedy elites and callous citizens. This is why moral and spiritual dimensions of social activism are crucial—to sustain our will to fight inside and outside the system with little chance of immediate victory!


I think Bernie has lit the moral and spiritual dimension spark, along with others who speak out.

West could also have brought in the influence of the corporate oligarchy and the media monopoly, both of which are masters of opinion making and public manipulation, powerful forces for the rightwing status quo.

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Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 09:08 PM

43. Geez, I can't believe how Team Hill swarms out

And makes the point of how correct the OPs are by being themselves.

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Response to Hydra (Reply #43)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 10:57 PM

49. +1.nt

 

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Response to Hydra (Reply #43)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:44 PM

62. rabit alerters, I am sure Skinner will adjust their access

 

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Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 09:23 PM

45. Cornell West is a dangerous anti-Israeli who should not be allowed within a mile of the convention

That is all.

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Response to Tarc (Reply #45)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 09:40 PM

47. Thank you! ++++++++++

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Response to Tarc (Reply #45)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:28 PM

53. What does "anti-Israeli" mean? Is it like being anti-Bulgarian? Anti-Palistinian?

 

Which Israelis is "anti"? All of them? Some of them? Conservative Israelis? Progressive Israelis?

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #53)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:45 PM

63. I'd like to know too

 

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #53)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:46 PM

67. It is anti-Zionism

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Response to Tarc (Reply #67)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 03:15 PM

73. And?

 

There are Israelis who are anti-Zionist.

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #73)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:09 PM

75. And?

There's also African-Americans who are anti-Obama. There are LGBT that are pro-Republican.

Every grouping has a tiny fringe that goes against it's own self-interests for a myriad of dumb reasons.

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Response to Tarc (Reply #75)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:29 PM

79. How dumb is being anti-nationalist and anti-apartheid?

 

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #79)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 05:22 PM

81. Israel does not practice apartheid, that accusation is rooted in antisemitism

Try again?

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #53)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:45 AM

84. If he is arguing for boycotting the entire country completely

 

Then it would seem he is anti all of them.

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Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 09:31 PM

46. I gotta kick for Brother West!



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Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:38 PM

59. Oh so very true

 

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Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 03:15 PM

74. West also called Obama a form of nigger last year... he's not a credible source to people who don't

... like racist epitaphs thrown at PoC

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Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:15 PM

76. Brother Cornell is a racist clown eom

 

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Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:36 AM

86. What a whack job.

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Response to skylucy (Reply #86)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 08:41 AM

88. Indeed.

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Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 08:50 AM

89. Who?

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Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:10 PM

90. I choose neopopulism. nt

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Response to LWolf (Reply #90)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:12 PM

91. Me too.

 

I am beyond sick of the neolibs.

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Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 01:35 PM

92. Dr. West is correct.

As for me, I'd pick the Democratic Socialist.

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