Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:10 AM

Fumesucker (45,851 posts)

A meme that used to be very popular on DU, now I never see it here

I wonder if DU will go through this again with Hillary?

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A meme that used to be very popular on DU, now I never see it here (Original post)	Fumesucker	Jun 2016	OP
Nah, people will just be accused of sexism constantly.	QC	Jun 2016	#1
They are different people, that wouldn't really fit Clinton	JI7	Jun 2016	#2
Why did the meme in the OP become unpopular on DU do you think?	Fumesucker	Jun 2016	#3
because it was mostly a campaign thing and Obama isn't running for anymore	JI7	Jun 2016	#5
I don't recall it that way	Fumesucker	Jun 2016	#8
it was made for the election for those who support him	JI7	Jun 2016	#9
Because Obama isn't running?	NanceGreggs	Jun 2016	#6
I still agree with your brilliant essay on Hillary from 2008...	Fumesucker	Jun 2016	#7
Ah, the ol' ...	NanceGreggs	Jun 2016	#10
It wasn't that you didn't support her, you analyzed her flawed character brilliantly in my opinion	Fumesucker	Jun 2016	#11
She is flawed.	NanceGreggs	Jun 2016	#12
Hmm, sounds like Obama 2008	Fumesucker	Jun 2016	#13
Sorry - not getting the connection. n/t	NanceGreggs	Jun 2016	#14
I have a higher opinion of your intelligence than that	Fumesucker	Jun 2016	#15
Thanks for the "higher opinion".	NanceGreggs	Jun 2016	#16
The same crap was flung by the Clinton campaign against Obama and his supporters...	Armstead	Jun 2016	#25
I agree. That "Savior" meme really rankles me.	Jim Lane	Jun 2016	#28
My guess is that some will be allowed to sling any insults they	QC	Jun 2016	#29
My guess is that Skinner won't want that result but a lot of jurors will.	Jim Lane	Jun 2016	#31
I'm not holding my breath.	QC	Jun 2016	#35
A-friggin'-men!	Surya Gayatri	Jun 2016	#27
Google Images Has Nada....	Grassy Knoll	Jun 2016	#4
Yep, it will be 24/7...	Ino	Jun 2016	#17
+1	leeroysphitz	Jun 2016	#22
Not to worry....a bird landed on Bernie's podium...	Cali_Democrat	Jun 2016	#24
Obama's primary opponent was a true team player who graciously endorsed	geek tragedy	Jun 2016	#18
What does that have to do with the OP?	Fumesucker	Jun 2016	#33
because a bunch of delicate flowers will cry "authoritarian" and compare her to Stalin	geek tragedy	Jun 2016	#34
I understand you'd like to believe this and I can't blame you	Fumesucker	Jun 2016	#37
women aren't seen in our culture as authority figures	geek tragedy	Jun 2016	#38
You should hang out more in the Hillary group	needledriver	Jun 2016	#19
I hope not. Lol. Never liked that meme.	bigwillq	Jun 2016	#20
This message was self-deleted by its author	cherokeeprogressive	Jun 2016	#21
Awesome, true and sad. stealing n/t	leeroysphitz	Jun 2016	#23
😁	Purveyor	Jun 2016	#26
I won't go in the HRC Group, thanks for bringing it here	Fumesucker	Jun 2016	#36
Sorry. I'll make it go away. nt	cherokeeprogressive	Jun 2016	#41
That was a joke, son. A joke.	Fumesucker	Jun 2016	#42
Obama was more or less an unknown quantity though,	NorthCarolina	Jun 2016	#30
There is no worse heresy than that the office sanctifies the holder of it. Lord Acton	Tierra_y_Libertad	Jun 2016	#32
Put that in this context...	hootinholler	Jun 2016	#39
As far as I know	Fumesucker	Jun 2016	#40
Gotta tell ya, Fumesucker	senz	Jun 2016	#43
Thank you	Fumesucker	Jun 2016	#44

Response to Fumesucker (Original post)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:13 AM

QC (26,371 posts)

1. Nah, people will just be accused of sexism constantly.

You know, just like the past year, and before that 2007 and 2008.

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Response to Fumesucker (Original post)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:16 AM

JI7 (87,745 posts)

2. They are different people, that wouldn't really fit Clinton

something similar maybe but different words.

she handled it well during the Benghazi thing.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #2)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:19 AM

Fumesucker (45,851 posts)

3. Why did the meme in the OP become unpopular on DU do you think?

It was here constantly three or four years ago.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:25 AM

JI7 (87,745 posts)

5. because it was mostly a campaign thing and Obama isn't running for anymore

elections after 3-4 years ago.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:45 AM

Fumesucker (45,851 posts)

8. I don't recall it that way

In fact the elections is exactly where Obama doesn't have control, that's where the voters come in.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #8)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:51 AM

JI7 (87,745 posts)

9. it was made for the election for those who support him

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:40 AM

NanceGreggs (27,631 posts)

6. Because Obama isn't running?

Just a wild guess.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:42 AM

Fumesucker (45,851 posts)

7. I still agree with your brilliant essay on Hillary from 2008...

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #7)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:56 AM

NanceGreggs (27,631 posts)

10. Ah, the ol' ...

... you didn't support her then so why do you support her now meme.

Cute. But what does it have to do with the discussion in this thread?

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #10)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 04:06 AM

Fumesucker (45,851 posts)

11. It wasn't that you didn't support her, you analyzed her flawed character brilliantly in my opinion

Even better than Steven Leser in 2008 when he said she was a "Rovian character" although his essay was pretty damn good.

You are quite the wordsmith, I envy you that since my short term memory is about gone and I can't really write long pieces any more, I have to keep going back and rereading to see what I've already said. That really upsets the flow of writing in a long piece.

On the other hand once I manage to get something into long term memory it still works quite well.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #11)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 04:16 AM

NanceGreggs (27,631 posts)

12. She is flawed.

Just like every other human being - just like every other politician - just like every other candidate.

I have no problem with that. What I DO have a problem with is people who think their candidate is a flawless saviour who would have righted all wrongs, stopped all injustices, and ushered-in a utopian world where everyone would have free college tuition and single-payer healthcare - if only "The Establishment" had not stepped-in to prevent his ascension to his rightful place.

And yet they're the same people who cheered their Saviour when he said he would convince the super-delegates to ignore the will of the people and hand him the nomination.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #12)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 04:25 AM

Fumesucker (45,851 posts)

13. Hmm, sounds like Obama 2008

Which is why I posted the picture in the OP..

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #13)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 04:26 AM

NanceGreggs (27,631 posts)

14. Sorry - not getting the connection. n/t

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #14)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 04:46 AM

Fumesucker (45,851 posts)

15. I have a higher opinion of your intelligence than that

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #15)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 04:49 AM

NanceGreggs (27,631 posts)

16. Thanks for the "higher opinion".

But I'm not being coy here. I honestly don't know what point you're making.

It is almost 5:00 a.m. here - so that may have something to do with my inability to "get" what it is you're saying.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #16)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:46 AM

Armstead (47,803 posts)

25. The same crap was flung by the Clinton campaign against Obama and his supporters...

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that is now being flung against supporters of Sanders. Right down to the use of the word "savior" and the implication that most of us are too stupid to recognize that he's just a human being.

Handy little meme to toss around against any candidate who challenges the rigid Democratic Machine.

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Response to Armstead (Reply #25)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 11:55 AM

Jim Lane (11,175 posts)

28. I agree. That "Savior" meme really rankles me.

I support Sanders even though I regard him as a fallible human being and I sometimes disagree with him.

Sanders went from single digits in the polls to getting more than 40% of the vote against a candidate who had the overwhelming support of the party establishment. He did so while being unafraid to use that dreaded "S" word (no, not "savior"

that so terrifies most of our elected officials. No fair-minded person can deny that he is, in many ways, an exceptional politician. Nevertheless, to say that his supporters can't think for themselves is just stupid.

I wonder whether that kind of insult will be allowed here after June 20.

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Response to Jim Lane (Reply #28)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 11:59 AM

QC (26,371 posts)

29. My guess is that some will be allowed to sling any insults they

please while others will get the smackdown if they venture any comment other than praise for The Leader.

You know, just like always.

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Response to QC (Reply #29)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:09 PM

Jim Lane (11,175 posts)

31. My guess is that Skinner won't want that result but a lot of jurors will.

Skinner doesn't want incivility here but also doesn't want to overrule juries. He may find those two goals incompatible, if the Clinton supporters take the bit in their teeth.

In fact, he may find that they need to be brought to heel.

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Response to Jim Lane (Reply #31)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:30 PM

QC (26,371 posts)

35. I'm not holding my breath.

Most of the ugliness here is the work of a very small group, and most of them have been at it for years. In that time, they have received one lifeline/bailout/amnesty after another. I think civility isn't really a big concern here.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #12)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 11:29 AM

Surya Gayatri (15,445 posts)

27. A-friggin'-men!

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Response to Fumesucker (Original post)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:24 AM

Grassy Knoll (10,118 posts)

4. Google Images Has Nada....

Easily made i'm sure.

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Response to Fumesucker (Original post)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 05:09 AM

Ino (3,366 posts)

17. Yep, it will be 24/7...

I got this.
three-dimensional chess
she's got them where she wants them now
rope-a-dope
She's keeping her powder dry.

While the country is further compromised in favor of the 1%.

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Response to Ino (Reply #17)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:39 AM

leeroysphitz (10,462 posts)

22. +1

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Response to Ino (Reply #17)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:44 AM

Cali_Democrat (30,439 posts)

24. Not to worry....a bird landed on Bernie's podium...

So he's got this.

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Response to Fumesucker (Original post)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 08:14 AM

geek tragedy (68,868 posts)

18. Obama's primary opponent was a true team player who graciously endorsed

him in order to unify the party.

Clinton's opponent has no interest in helping her unify the party or defeat Trump.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #18)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:27 PM

Fumesucker (45,851 posts)

33. What does that have to do with the OP?

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #33)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:29 PM

geek tragedy (68,868 posts)

34. because a bunch of delicate flowers will cry "authoritarian" and compare her to Stalin

if she were to be presented in such a way.

Also, like it or not that piece of stagecraft at the convention involved presenting Obama as an alpha male asserting his dominance.

Women don't get to run that particular play.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #34)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:34 PM

Fumesucker (45,851 posts)

37. I understand you'd like to believe this and I can't blame you

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110777355

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #37)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:42 PM

geek tragedy (68,868 posts)

38. women aren't seen in our culture as authority figures

it just doesn't work. if a woman tries to assert herself, there's a backlash unless people are already really positively disposed to her.

boys show leadership, girls get called bossy

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Response to Fumesucker (Original post)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 09:36 AM

needledriver (836 posts)