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A meme that used to be very popular on DU, now I never see it here (Original Post) Fumesucker Jun 2016 OP
Nah, people will just be accused of sexism constantly. QC Jun 2016 #1
They are different people, that wouldn't really fit Clinton JI7 Jun 2016 #2
Why did the meme in the OP become unpopular on DU do you think? Fumesucker Jun 2016 #3
because it was mostly a campaign thing and Obama isn't running for anymore JI7 Jun 2016 #5
I don't recall it that way Fumesucker Jun 2016 #8
it was made for the election for those who support him JI7 Jun 2016 #9
Because Obama isn't running? NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #6
I still agree with your brilliant essay on Hillary from 2008... Fumesucker Jun 2016 #7
Ah, the ol' ... NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #10
It wasn't that you didn't support her, you analyzed her flawed character brilliantly in my opinion Fumesucker Jun 2016 #11
She is flawed. NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #12
Hmm, sounds like Obama 2008 Fumesucker Jun 2016 #13
Sorry - not getting the connection. n/t NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #14
I have a higher opinion of your intelligence than that Fumesucker Jun 2016 #15
Thanks for the "higher opinion". NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #16
The same crap was flung by the Clinton campaign against Obama and his supporters... Armstead Jun 2016 #25
I agree. That "Savior" meme really rankles me. Jim Lane Jun 2016 #28
My guess is that some will be allowed to sling any insults they QC Jun 2016 #29
My guess is that Skinner won't want that result but a lot of jurors will. Jim Lane Jun 2016 #31
I'm not holding my breath. QC Jun 2016 #35
A-friggin'-men! Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #27
Google Images Has Nada.... Grassy Knoll Jun 2016 #4
Yep, it will be 24/7... Ino Jun 2016 #17
+1 leeroysphitz Jun 2016 #22
Not to worry....a bird landed on Bernie's podium... Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #24
Obama's primary opponent was a true team player who graciously endorsed geek tragedy Jun 2016 #18
What does that have to do with the OP? Fumesucker Jun 2016 #33
because a bunch of delicate flowers will cry "authoritarian" and compare her to Stalin geek tragedy Jun 2016 #34
I understand you'd like to believe this and I can't blame you Fumesucker Jun 2016 #37
women aren't seen in our culture as authority figures geek tragedy Jun 2016 #38
You should hang out more in the Hillary group needledriver Jun 2016 #19
I hope not. Lol. Never liked that meme. bigwillq Jun 2016 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #21
Awesome, true and sad. stealing n/t leeroysphitz Jun 2016 #23
😁 Purveyor Jun 2016 #26
I won't go in the HRC Group, thanks for bringing it here Fumesucker Jun 2016 #36
Sorry. I'll make it go away. nt cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #41
That was a joke, son. A joke. Fumesucker Jun 2016 #42
Obama was more or less an unknown quantity though, NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #30
There is no worse heresy than that the office sanctifies the holder of it. Lord Acton Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #32
Put that in this context... hootinholler Jun 2016 #39
As far as I know Fumesucker Jun 2016 #40
Gotta tell ya, Fumesucker senz Jun 2016 #43
Thank you Fumesucker Jun 2016 #44

QC

(26,371 posts)
1. Nah, people will just be accused of sexism constantly.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:13 AM
Jun 2016

You know, just like the past year, and before that 2007 and 2008.

JI7

(89,381 posts)
2. They are different people, that wouldn't really fit Clinton
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:16 AM
Jun 2016

something similar maybe but different words.

she handled it well during the Benghazi thing.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
3. Why did the meme in the OP become unpopular on DU do you think?
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:19 AM
Jun 2016

It was here constantly three or four years ago.

JI7

(89,381 posts)
5. because it was mostly a campaign thing and Obama isn't running for anymore
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:25 AM
Jun 2016

elections after 3-4 years ago.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
8. I don't recall it that way
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:45 AM
Jun 2016

In fact the elections is exactly where Obama doesn't have control, that's where the voters come in.

NanceGreggs

(27,825 posts)
10. Ah, the ol' ...
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:56 AM
Jun 2016

... you didn't support her then so why do you support her now meme.

Cute. But what does it have to do with the discussion in this thread?

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
11. It wasn't that you didn't support her, you analyzed her flawed character brilliantly in my opinion
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 04:06 AM
Jun 2016

Even better than Steven Leser in 2008 when he said she was a "Rovian character" although his essay was pretty damn good.

You are quite the wordsmith, I envy you that since my short term memory is about gone and I can't really write long pieces any more, I have to keep going back and rereading to see what I've already said. That really upsets the flow of writing in a long piece.

On the other hand once I manage to get something into long term memory it still works quite well.




NanceGreggs

(27,825 posts)
12. She is flawed.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 04:16 AM
Jun 2016

Just like every other human being - just like every other politician - just like every other candidate.

I have no problem with that. What I DO have a problem with is people who think their candidate is a flawless saviour who would have righted all wrongs, stopped all injustices, and ushered-in a utopian world where everyone would have free college tuition and single-payer healthcare - if only "The Establishment" had not stepped-in to prevent his ascension to his rightful place.

And yet they're the same people who cheered their Saviour when he said he would convince the super-delegates to ignore the will of the people and hand him the nomination.

NanceGreggs

(27,825 posts)
16. Thanks for the "higher opinion".
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 04:49 AM
Jun 2016

But I'm not being coy here. I honestly don't know what point you're making.

It is almost 5:00 a.m. here - so that may have something to do with my inability to "get" what it is you're saying.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
25. The same crap was flung by the Clinton campaign against Obama and his supporters...
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:46 AM
Jun 2016

Last edited Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:07 PM - Edit history (1)

that is now being flung against supporters of Sanders. Right down to the use of the word "savior" and the implication that most of us are too stupid to recognize that he's just a human being.

Handy little meme to toss around against any candidate who challenges the rigid Democratic Machine.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
28. I agree. That "Savior" meme really rankles me.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 11:55 AM
Jun 2016

I support Sanders even though I regard him as a fallible human being and I sometimes disagree with him.

Sanders went from single digits in the polls to getting more than 40% of the vote against a candidate who had the overwhelming support of the party establishment. He did so while being unafraid to use that dreaded "S" word (no, not "savior&quot that so terrifies most of our elected officials. No fair-minded person can deny that he is, in many ways, an exceptional politician. Nevertheless, to say that his supporters can't think for themselves is just stupid.

I wonder whether that kind of insult will be allowed here after June 20.

QC

(26,371 posts)
29. My guess is that some will be allowed to sling any insults they
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 11:59 AM
Jun 2016

please while others will get the smackdown if they venture any comment other than praise for The Leader.

You know, just like always.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
31. My guess is that Skinner won't want that result but a lot of jurors will.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:09 PM
Jun 2016

Skinner doesn't want incivility here but also doesn't want to overrule juries. He may find those two goals incompatible, if the Clinton supporters take the bit in their teeth.

In fact, he may find that they need to be brought to heel.

QC

(26,371 posts)
35. I'm not holding my breath.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:30 PM
Jun 2016

Most of the ugliness here is the work of a very small group, and most of them have been at it for years. In that time, they have received one lifeline/bailout/amnesty after another. I think civility isn't really a big concern here.

Ino

(3,366 posts)
17. Yep, it will be 24/7...
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 05:09 AM
Jun 2016
I got this.
three-dimensional chess
she's got them where she wants them now
rope-a-dope
She's keeping her powder dry.


While the country is further compromised in favor of the 1%.
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
18. Obama's primary opponent was a true team player who graciously endorsed
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 08:14 AM
Jun 2016

him in order to unify the party.

Clinton's opponent has no interest in helping her unify the party or defeat Trump.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
34. because a bunch of delicate flowers will cry "authoritarian" and compare her to Stalin
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:29 PM
Jun 2016

if she were to be presented in such a way.

Also, like it or not that piece of stagecraft at the convention involved presenting Obama as an alpha male asserting his dominance.

Women don't get to run that particular play.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
38. women aren't seen in our culture as authority figures
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:42 PM
Jun 2016

it just doesn't work. if a woman tries to assert herself, there's a backlash unless people are already really positively disposed to her.

boys show leadership, girls get called bossy

Response to Fumesucker (Original post)

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
36. I won't go in the HRC Group, thanks for bringing it here
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:31 PM
Jun 2016

I don't go in the BS group either, not really interested in echo chambers.

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