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MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 09:35 AM Jun 2016

50 States. We CAN take back the House!

With Donald Trump heading the Republican presidential ballot entry, many Republicans will simply sit at home in November, and that will be true in all 50 states. What that means is that Democrats, by turning out in huge numbers, can flip some House seats that otherwise would be going to Republicans. We can truly do that, if we have the will to do it.

Hillary Clinton is promising a 50-state campaign, but that's not enough. It's going to be up to rank-and-file Democrats to turn out the vote. If each Democratic voter convinces one other person who would not otherwise vote to go to the polls in November, we'd double the turnout. Double! If that happens, we will win back a majority of House seats, establish a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate and put the Republican Party on its knees for a very long time.

GOTV 2016!

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50 States. We CAN take back the House! (Original Post) MineralMan Jun 2016 OP
I wish, but I'm afraid it can't happen until 2022. Too many gerrymandered districts tonyt53 Jun 2016 #1
Actually, it can happen. This will be a unique opportunity, MineralMan Jun 2016 #3
True! An overwhelming gerrymandered advantage only holds Hortensis Jun 2016 #14
Good luck with all of your efforts! MineralMan Jun 2016 #15
Thanks. Easy and pleasant enough after all, except for Hortensis Jun 2016 #19
A big enough tidal wave can swamp the gerrymandering. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #22
gerrymandering cuts both ways, though it might not look that way at first 0rganism Jun 2016 #24
There's not that many 5 point seats. Most winners. regardless of Exilednight Jun 2016 #26
Despite the gerrymandering, if we follow MM's "each one bring one" strategy ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #29
The GOP is knocked back on it's heels C_U_L8R Jun 2016 #2
Exactly. It's a rare opportunity we're going to have. MineralMan Jun 2016 #4
+1,000 malaise Jun 2016 #5
I would love to see that come true, MM. brer cat Jun 2016 #6
A massive turnout of Democrats who normally stay home MineralMan Jun 2016 #7
Many districts don't have "massive" numbers of Democrats frazzled Jun 2016 #8
And yet many do. We won't win all 435 seats. MineralMan Jun 2016 #10
That's exactly what the Progressives are working. Continue the enormous rhett o rick Jun 2016 #9
Absolutely. Let's count on those efforts, too. MineralMan Jun 2016 #11
So hoping! MoonRiver Jun 2016 #12
I'm hoping, too, but I"ll be participating in GOTV MineralMan Jun 2016 #13
I'm still recovering from my second total hip replacement, MoonRiver Jun 2016 #17
Outstanding. MineralMan Jun 2016 #18
It reached the point where I was practically bed ridden. MoonRiver Jun 2016 #20
Taking back the house workinclasszero Jun 2016 #16
I believe we can make that dream become reality. MineralMan Jun 2016 #21
kick & recommended. William769 Jun 2016 #23
Not here. raven mad Jun 2016 #25
K&R!!! ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #27
For 50 years we controlled the congress AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #28
There is absolutely no good reason not to work like hell for it. Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #30
 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
1. I wish, but I'm afraid it can't happen until 2022. Too many gerrymandered districts
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 09:37 AM
Jun 2016

And after the 2020 census, new lines will have to be drawn for each district. the 2022 mid-terms will see a huge shift.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
3. Actually, it can happen. This will be a unique opportunity,
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 09:43 AM
Jun 2016

I think. If we don't take advantage of it, we'll be fools. Here's the thing: If we can flip just one seat in every state, we'll have that majority. If we flip two or more in some states, it will be even easier. I know of two flippable districts in my state of Minnesota. Our party organization will be working its ass off this year to flip those two, and we can do it.

Optimism is contagious, as is disgust for Donald Trump.

Let's do this!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. True! An overwhelming gerrymandered advantage only holds
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:53 AM
Jun 2016

for the old, pre-Trump reality. We have been handed a whole new reality to work with!!!

We've surrounded by very large numbers of unflippable conservatives, but I have already started slipping in the idea of staying home on November 8 as a matter of conscience into conversation. I confess I often let the people I'm talking with think I basically agree with, or at least have no answer to, what they're saying about Hillary. If they choose to think I'm in the same boat as they are... I do actually feel that is the most honorable option for those conservatives who are very unhappy with their choices but cannot vote Democrat.

I've also signed up for calling to GOTV. That's something I can do from wherever we happen to be.

And now, as MineralMan suggests, I'm going to try to identify at least one couple we know personally who lean left but usually don't bother to vote and see if we can't "double" our votes. Just realized it's been some while since anyone's called voting a waste of time in my presence. Have to ask my husband...

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. Thanks. Easy and pleasant enough after all, except for
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 11:26 AM
Jun 2016

identifying an uncommitted liberal in a flippable district in our region of Georgia. ( ) Our prospects for both are much better in Florida since we know people in both the more promising Orlando and St. Petersburg districts.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
22. A big enough tidal wave can swamp the gerrymandering.
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 12:31 PM
Jun 2016

While Democrats would need about 60% of the vote nationwide in House elections to take a slim majority, if Trump craters badly enough that could actually happen.

0rganism

(23,944 posts)
24. gerrymandering cuts both ways, though it might not look that way at first
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 03:23 PM
Jun 2016

gerrymandering sacrifices safe seats for a larger number of advantage seats by distributing a strong majority across several districts. so instead of one seat with a 20-point majority, you have 4 seats with 5-point majorities.

thing is, a 5-point majority is a lot easier to tip than a 20-point spread. a strong Democratic wave election could have serious and unforeseen consequences for the house majority.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
26. There's not that many 5 point seats. Most winners. regardless of
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:37 PM
Jun 2016

Party, won by 10 points or more. Several had 60 point margins.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
29. Despite the gerrymandering, if we follow MM's "each one bring one" strategy ...
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 11:17 PM
Jun 2016

we more than negate the effect ... since this season's primaries saw about a 30% turn-out rate and the 2014 (mid-turn out rate) was about 36%, and the 2012 G/E turn-out rate was 56% ... there are still a lot of votes out there to get.

I have 4 people, that had not voted in the primary, mid-term or 2012, that have committed to vote Democratic in 2016 ... and I'm giving them a ride to the polls to ensure that they vote; but, I won't know how they vote.

C_U_L8R

(45,001 posts)
2. The GOP is knocked back on it's heels
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 09:42 AM
Jun 2016

and the Democratic party is enthusiastic.
Now's the time to hammer the right-wingers mercilessly.
We may win the house, we may not.
But we're going to gain tremendous ground
in every locality on up to the White House.

brer cat

(24,562 posts)
6. I would love to see that come true, MM.
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 09:54 AM
Jun 2016

On my facebook feed are republican family members and friends, and many of them are actually sane. I have seen several pushing a movement to vote against every incumbent. I wish them great luck since here in GA they are talking about republicans. However, I know here, as in many states, the districts are so gerrymandered it would take a tsunami of protest votes to root them out.

One can hope!

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
7. A massive turnout of Democrats who normally stay home
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 09:58 AM
Jun 2016

can overcome gerrymandering in many districts. That's especially true if Republicans are the ones who sit out the election over disgust with Trump.

We'll see, of course, but GOTV this year should be a huge effort, and one all of us can take part in. There's where unity can make all the difference.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
8. Many districts don't have "massive" numbers of Democrats
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:07 AM
Jun 2016

within their boundaries. They're beet red. So you wouldn't need simply to double the turnout (a hard enough job as is) but octuple it. That's just the reality of many gerrymandered districts.

The DCCC will undoubtedly, however, try to target as many "purple" districts as possible; and hopefully that could be enough to narrowly flip the House. You have to be strategic in these efforts.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
10. And yet many do. We won't win all 435 seats.
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:28 AM
Jun 2016

However, there are many districts where the Republican margin is less than 10%. I don't know every district in the country, but people in each state know their own districts. We win the ones we can. It's not an all or nothing proposition I'm making.'

The DNCC will do what it can, but the real job is up to the people in their own and neighboring districts, really. GOTV is a local thing, not a national one. GOTV in every district is required. And GOTV requires personal activism.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
9. That's exactly what the Progressives are working. Continue the enormous
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:09 AM
Jun 2016

enthusiasm that the Progressives have brought to this campaign. It's time to kick the Big Money influence out of our government. I think we can all agree on that.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
13. I'm hoping, too, but I"ll be participating in GOTV
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:40 AM
Jun 2016

here in Minnesota in CD-2 and CD-3. They can be flipped this year. I hope we can flip them both. The more feet on the ground, the better our chances.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
17. I'm still recovering from my second total hip replacement,
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 11:20 AM
Jun 2016

but my fingers work just fine, so I expect to be dialing a lot of voters!

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
18. Outstanding.
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 11:23 AM
Jun 2016

I haven't had any hip replacements, but I suspect that there's one in my future. But, not until I must.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
20. It reached the point where I was practically bed ridden.
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 11:30 AM
Jun 2016

But that was mainly because I had been misdiagnosed for almost 2 years. I got a useless spine fusion (L4/L5) last July. It took about 6 months after that, during which time my pain got worse, before one doctor thought to look at my hips, which finally told the tale. My pain is almost gone now, thank Dog. But this was a serious medical f**k up!

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
28. For 50 years we controlled the congress
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:44 PM
Jun 2016

And the Democratic party did so by standing solidly on the left. Until that happens again, we will continue in the present quagmire.

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