2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumTPP are are you for/against it being supported in the final draft of the Democratic Party Platform.
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For it on it's merits. | |
1 (3%) |
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For it so as to not be counter to POTUS's position. | |
1 (3%) |
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Both of the above. | |
1 (3%) |
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Against it. | |
25 (83%) |
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Other/need more info. | |
2 (7%) |
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0 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided. | |
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CaliforniaPeggy
(149,611 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Dont believe the fear mongering. We live in a global economy, we either lead or get left behind.
AntiBank
(1,339 posts)is not one. It's horrific in its transfer of power from sovereign governments to private transnational corporations.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)One persons 'global economy' is another persons neo-colonialism.
TheFarseer
(9,322 posts)Our trade deficit is enormous and we losing entire industries overseas. What would getting left behind mean? Do you even know? What good does it do to raise labor and environmental standards when other countries don't follow the agreement? What good does it do to take tariffs off Chinese goods but they still get to put tariffs on our goods? Then we agree to these trade courts that rule against us every time. We're playing the game against the wind, uphill, with the sun in our eyes and our shoes tied together. It's not fair trade. Every other country has got to think we are the dumbest negotiators ever.
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)eta - I have no idea what both the above mean at all???
Snarkoleptic
(5,997 posts)but feel it would be wrong for the official party platform to hold a position not aligned with POTUS.
I suspect that some who may read the poll are slightly in favor of TPP and also have major qualms about the platform not aligning as detailed above.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Like NAFTA, the TPP is designed to facilitate the needs of capitalists, not workers. The provisions in many sections were actually written by lobbyists from affected industries with no participation or input from the bottom 99%.
The TPP is the ALEC model of legislating applied to treaty writing.
LuvLoogie
(6,999 posts)The platform language acknowledges opposition to the TPP, but takes no position for or against
AntiBank
(1,339 posts)ie. included in the platform, but not what stance (pro TPP or anti TPP) that plank will say.
If I click against on your poll I am simply saying I dont want it mentioned. I want it mentioned and that mention should oppose TPP.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)I assume that's where this poll is coming from, but could be wrong.
AntiBank
(1,339 posts)do you have some new info?
TDale313
(7,820 posts)Still not good IMO but yes, it is different.
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)I suspect that a lot of people are answering the question "TTP: are you for it or against it?" as a proxy for the question actually asked, which deals with tactics and is probably harder to answer without insider information.
TheBlackAdder
(28,189 posts)ericson00
(2,707 posts)a way to disincentivize offshoring. I think both can be done.