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seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
Sun Jul 3, 2016, 11:37 AM Jul 2016

Clinton's have not been favs, mostly because of Bill. I simply bought into the "untrustworthy"

because it was drilled in and I never spent the time to educate myself. I also knew that was the case and knew I was not informed. I had all intention of supporting Sanders, still not impressed with Clinton, though more than willing to vote for Clinton in GE. Otherwise is not even a consideration. I did know that a lot of the shit was simply RW attack, and she did well as senator and Sec of State, so I was certainly comfortable with Clinton as president.

In April, I started hearing the same attacks toward Clinton as I had been hearing for a couple years directed at Obama. I had stopped getting into political discussions because there is a faction of Democrats that do nothing but attack our own, regardless of Democrats even accomplishing shit. There was no reasoned conversation and an unwillingness to look at facts or considerations of alternatives and there repercussions.

But, about April of 2015 I started seeing the shift of attacks toward Clinton that Obama would have normally received, and the same language. This made me curious and I started jumping into the political discussion to see what the fuss was.

As I did my research on Sanders (because it is important to actually be informed on the candidate we support, with facts) and I listened to Sanders. Listened to what Sanders said in the past, I was also listening to the facts on Clinton. Any conversation that came up attacking Clinton, I looked for Clinton supporters to get the other side of the story. Then I would do the research and process the information. I truly was astounded at the uninformed, bias attack against Clinton on a regular basis, while the facts sat there for anyone to see. I also started listening to Clinton and researching her accomplishments, and was so thoroughly impressed with how much I was off on Clinton. What an amazing, accomplished, strong, smart, reasoned woman she was and is.

And still, I had an issue with the Clinton name. Mostly because of Bill.

Which brought me to a fun insight. The woman. The woman that was first the Presidents wife, then a Presidents employee. In the supportive role, not in autonomy. I did see some while she was a senator, that I remembered seeing and appreciating.

Hillary Clinton is her own person, and we are seeing that. I am truly interested to see how she will govern. Class is certainly a plus for us as a nation. But smart, and strong. Those make for a good President. Cautioned and reasoned serves us well.

And for those that are dismissive of her being a First woman President, in the decades she forged ahead in a very Patriarchal society just simply miss out on the joy of what a strong and insightful person we will be getting. A woman, that can stand her own. She has had to do it all her life, in the face of dismissal, insult, ridicule is projected toward her in the most unjust ways.

It says something about character. Clinton consistently came up as the most truthful candidate this primary. Sanders a close second.

Clinton has run a very respectful, presidential campaign. That is evidence of her stance with opposition.

I look forward to her presidency.

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Clinton's have not been favs, mostly because of Bill. I simply bought into the "untrustworthy" (Original Post) seabeyond Jul 2016 OP
Beautifully stated Evergreen Emerald Jul 2016 #1
+1. nt MADem Jul 2016 #2
After countless invesigations and millions of $$$ spent, the Clintons are either... wyldwolf Jul 2016 #3
K&R! DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #4
I remember... orwell Jul 2016 #5
K&R! LuvLoogie Jul 2016 #6
Well said, seabeyond. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #7
K&R nt lillypaddle Jul 2016 #8
K&R ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #9
Interesting journey. Hopefully there will many others willing oasis Jul 2016 #10
Kick! Squinch Jul 2016 #11
Very well stated MaggieD Jul 2016 #12
Excellent post! pandr32 Jul 2016 #13
Well said! mcar Jul 2016 #14
i have a more positive view of her after this primary also JI7 Jul 2016 #15
Very well said, sea! brer cat Jul 2016 #16
K&K. Great post, Seabeyond! lunamagica Jul 2016 #17

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
1. Beautifully stated
Sun Jul 3, 2016, 11:50 AM
Jul 2016

I have been hoping that thoughtful voters will do the same. The republicans have done an excellent job of branding her--of course they have had decades to do it. What is unfortunate, is that people who know better (and not necessarily republicans)--but who also have an agenda--use those ugly distortions against her.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
3. After countless invesigations and millions of $$$ spent, the Clintons are either...
Sun Jul 3, 2016, 11:54 AM
Jul 2016

... smarter and more clever than most of us or the victims of the biggest witch hunt in human history.

orwell

(7,773 posts)
5. I remember...
Sun Jul 3, 2016, 11:58 AM
Jul 2016

...near the end of the 2008 campaign. Then candidate Obama was essentially the presumptive nominee. It was all but over.

I saw a short report on a Hillary Clinton campaign speech. I don't even remember where it was. It was raining hard. She had a bunch of supporters in the crowd who were there to acknowledge her historic run for the White House that was now inevitably going to end in disappointment.

I remember her standing at the front of the stage, a hard rain pelting her in the face. I remember her passionate delivery, her voice hoarse from months of hard fought campaigning.

I remember coming away as an Obama supporter incredibly impressed with her grit, tenacity and grace in the face of defeat.

I never forgot the person that I saw that day. Whatever you say about her know that she is a smart, tough, and tenacious.

I will be proud to vote for her in November.

oasis

(49,383 posts)
10. Interesting journey. Hopefully there will many others willing
Sun Jul 3, 2016, 12:45 PM
Jul 2016

to pursue the the truth rather than accept the manufactured negatives which have
dogged the Clintons for decades.

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