Can Bernie suspend now? There will be no indictment, never would be.

[boston bean]

This 'email' investigation is what many were hanging their hats on and why he should not suspend and ENDORSE Hillary.

We all know now, Hillary is as clean as a whistle. The right wing conspiracy loons know no boundaries.... Don't believe a word they say, EVER.

Will he finally suspend his campaign and work to defeat Don Con?

[stonecutter357]

1. K&R!

[CrowCityDem]

2. Maybe he's hoping to be the #DumpTrump option?

[BobbyDrake]

7. My cat ran into another room just now, I laughed so hard at this.

TYVM!

[nolawarlock]

26. *snicker*

[bravenak]

3. I'm with you on this

Enough is enough

[yallerdawg]

4. He promised to continue his candidacy through to the convention.

Plus, cable is considering an updated "Entourage" show - including a group of befuddled Secret Service agents!

[pandr32]

27. Ha-ha!

Love it!

[MaggieD]

5. Well, he'd have to give up his SS entourage

And he still seems to be digging that, even though it is costing taxpayers $40K per day.

[NurseJackie]

24. It's absolutely astounding and completely unnecessary to continue to provide an "also-ran" with...

... this kind of protection.

[pandr32]

30. Ridiculous for a long passed (by miles) candidate

We have our nominee and are already in GE mode full-on.
Sanders, who rails against "privilege", establishment, and the 1% is keeping the SS with him at $40k per day on the taxpayer dime.

[Squinch]

35. I hate to say this, but

after having read the reactions of his more rabid followers on other sites after he said he would vote for Hillary, I am hoping they extend his protection for a number of months after he concedes, if he ever does. They were raging when he said that.

Seriously. I don't like the expense, and I don't like what the guy is doing right now, but I think he needs protection.

[oasis]

39. He should not be susceptible to harm from some of his overly zealous

followers. For that reason, I'd say keep the SS.

[Squinch]

42. Exactly.

[politicaljunkie41910]

68. So he rang all the bells and whistles which got his supporters all riled up and full of hate towards

Clinton, and now some of those same supporters are now directing that misguided anger at him because he stated he will vote for her. Talk about letting the genie out of the bottle, and being unable to put it back in again. This is the problem you create when you raise the passions of the electorate by telling them that the system is rigged and that only you are the solution to the problem. You've got a lot of unstable people out there who took that message to be truth and now you can't unring that bell and the someone who might get hurt could be you. I knew that Bernie had lots of people who came across to me on this Board and other newspaper and magazine websites as really angry and I thought I couldn't recall anything like it before, even from the Hillary PUMA's. Now that it is being directed at Bernie himself, it seems even more serious that he suspend this indefinite campaign of his, and try and get things under control for his own sake.

[Squinch]

70. Only a very, very small percentage, but that small percentage is pretty nutty and they turn

on a dime. They're treating Elizabeth Warren as if she's public enemy #1 these days.

[politicaljunkie41910]

72. That's really sad that public figures like Warren have to be concerned with unstable folks like that

[eastwestdem]

71. Couldn't agree more!! nt

[PeaceNikki]

6. I think it's time

[tonyt53]

8. Maybe he is hoping they can turn his campaign in to a TV reality show.

[redstatebluegirl]

9. He likes the attention too much.

He took his secret service detail to capitol hill for heavens sake. Even his fellow Senators thought that was over the top.

[cosmicone]

10. He will stll be running ..........

The free secret service protection is very hard to give up

[pandr32]

33. Not free

Costs us all big bucks that should be spent on education, health care or maybe our crumbly infrastructure. The list could go on and on. It is wasted on Bernie.
He should pay for it himself if he is enjoying it so much at this point. We have our nominee.

[MissMillie]

11. Honestly, I don't want him to

I think he should do what Hillary did in 2008--wait until the convention.

I think he and his delegates have a job to do there.

Bernie is my choice, but I will vote for Hillary. I'd like to see the party platform go as far left as possible.

I believe that Bernie will eventually endorse and campaign for Hillary. The party will unite.

[DanTex]

13. Hillary didn't wait until the convention in 2008, she conceded a few days after the last primary.

Which is what Bernie should have done. But it's still not too late for him to do the right thing.

[LiberalFighter]

14. In fact, it was the Saturday after the election.

[LanternWaste]

23. Math was easier eight years ago...

Math was easier eight years ago...

[LiberalFighter]

37. Because people are getting stupider???

Maybe a bit. Could also be a problem with people not wanting to face reality.

[caquillo]

31. That's right

In 2008, the last primaries were held on June 3, and Hillary conceded on June 7. Incidentally, Sanders endorsed Obama on June 5, two days before Hillary had suspended her campaign.

Not to mention that, in '08, the convention was over two months away (August 25-28), so that gave the party plenty of time regroup and for Hillary supporters to lick their wounds. That's what the lull between the last primary and convention is supposed to do. Sanders is robbing us of that.

[Lord Magus]

20. That's simply not in the same universe as the truth.

If Bernie were doing what Hillary did in 08 he would've conceded and endorsed about 3 weeks ago. She absolutely did not "take it to the convention."

[obamanut2012]

21. Wrong -- Hillary suspended before the convention

Soon after the last primary, and she was much closer to the nom than Bernie is.

[giftedgirl77]

38. Lol, facts are hard huh?

I was I'm Iraq during the 08 primary & still know that what you are saying is utter bullshit.

[bklyncowgirl]

12. If his campaign was only about ego that would make sense.

Sanders is pushing for the same issues he has fought for his entire life. I will vote for Hillary but I support him in this effort. If Hillary has problems it's not Sanders that's causing them.

[benny05]

15. I agree

This is proof that Bernie's in it to improve the platform and make it stronger for HC and other Dems to run on in the fall.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

22. He could do that

with a suspended campaign, as well as by endorsing Hillary. None of these things are mutually exclusive AFAIK. The DNC also included his supporters in drafting the party platform and the DNC endorsed at least some of his proposals. So, what's left?

[Sheepshank]

44. exactly!!!!

I am convinced that the only reason to take his POTUS campaign all the way to the convention is so that when history get re-written (as it always does), his candidacy will be touted as so close, so neck a neck, it had to go all the way to the convention where he finally lost on a close count.

Or, there is the money:

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All of his platform ideologies can be touted on a suspended campaign that doesn't help Trump in the manner he is doing so, right now.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

49. It is certainly being treated like there is still a race going

Clinton v Obama 2008 was a much closer race but she quickly bowed out and endorsed Obama in June. What is Bernie doing, exactly? I don't get it.

[benny05]

48. Because he is using his campaign as well to help raise funds for some downtickets

Aside from both, I think it's best just to let him be. He's not harming anyone. He despises Trump's bigotry.

[JohnnyRingo]

78. I don't believe Sanders is raising money for anyone but himself.

That was one of the biggest criticisms of him, that he doesn't share campaign money with "fellow democrats".

He is indeed causing harm, and your avatar is evidence. He's deluding people into believing he's a viable write-in candidate, when he is not. He'd have to register in all fifty states as such to be counted.

[benny05]

79. I've not seen numbers for Zephyr Teachout

But Tin Canova, thanks to Bernie, raised half a million in one night. From Bernie's campaign.

[BobbyDrake]

52. It could be argued that his behavior in not conceding is negatively affecting him with potential

allies among Clinton's delegates. But the more he acts like he's disrespecting their candidate, the more those delegates become reflexively opposed to anything he proposes. This strategy of his is self-defeating.

[benny05]

80. It's not disrespectful to be silent

Besides, Clinton already has the POTUS helping her. Isn't that enough for now? This is not a game of "uncle."

[uponit7771]

41. He can suspend his campaign and still fight for the issues he wants. This intimates a false dichotom

[giftedgirl77]

56. He can't do that while still admitting he lost & recognizing

HRC as the primary winner? Nobody is saying he shouldn't stay involved, just that he should accept reality & act like a grownup.

[MyNameGoesHere]

57. I'm waiting on the plethora of bills he will sponsor or cosponsor

That should be ready for president Clinton to sign.

[giftedgirl77]

58. Lol, I'm still waiting for the plethora of bills he prepared for

Obama, Bush 1 or 2, or Clinton. Surely he could've acted on one or two of these glorious ideas during the decades he has hung out in Congress.

[BlueMTexpat]

75. +1! eom

[eastwestdem]

73. I agree that Sanders staying in is making things better for Hillary.

In my circle, he is not seen as 'sticking to his values', as that can be done whether or not he is officially a candidate. In fact, abusing public funding is against everything he has said he stands for. Instead, my Sanders supporting friends are dropping him like flies as they see him sinking into this unexplainable behavior. I'm sure most of these people would have taken much longer to come over to Hillary if Sanders suspended his campaign as would have been expected, and remained as a hero to the progressive movement. Instead, he has overstayed any power he might have had and turned himself into just another fringe candidate.

[DemonGoddess]

16. K&R!

I wish, but I don't think he will

[Zorro]

65. We're on the same general wavelength

[fun n serious]

66. Yes we are.

It's a shame =.

[LexVegas]

18. Who? nt

[calimary]

19. Agreed.

It's time. Bernie needs to concede. Before he burns through the last of his leverage, if indeed he hasn't already done so. Hillary certainly conceded, and just days after the final primary in 2008.

I do find myself bracing for what reasons he might still try to come up with, at OR after the convention, to keep himself in the race somehow. I hope not. I hope he would like to be seen as a graceful loser rather than an increasingly poor sport.

[Blue_Tires]

25. Well, H.A. goodman still isn't giving up

lolz

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

28. He's not running for president to get Hillary indicted.

And, he should stay in until someone is nominated.

[Buzz cook]

29. He doesn't have to.

Now that we Hillary supporters have won the nomination we should stop worrying about Sanders.

He will do what he thinks best, even if we disagree with his strategy.

imho Sanders is not suspending his campaign because he believes he can better influence the party and Clinton if he doesn't. While I disagree, his position is arguable.

[MFM008]

32. I would address the supporters of Mr. Sanders

What do you think?
Cleared on Benghazi
Cleared on E Mails
What next?

[Eric J in MN]

34. Sanders explained why he hasn't endorsed.

I guess he hasn't suspended for the same reason:

"Look, on that issue, we are trying to work with Secretary Clinton's campaign on areas that we can agree on, where the people who supported me, we got about 12, 13 million votes, and what they want to see, whether it is on … moving toward making public colleges and universities tuition-free, or moving aggressively in terms of health care and moving toward a universal health care system, significantly expanding primary health care, those are the issues that we're working with Secretary Clinton on now and I hope we can be successful," Sanders explained.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/bernie-sanders-clinton-endorsement-225019#ixzz4DZDeMucp

[uponit7771]

43. False dichotomy, he can endorse her and still push for those issues. There's no leverage he has ...

... and isn't even raising money for down ballots.

[Eric J in MN]

46. Bernie Sanders has asked people to donate to Russ Feingold

...Zephyr Teachout and a bunch other Democratic candidates.

[uponit7771]

47. Ballot(S) and what ever is there its comparatively little... bottom line he has little to bargain wi

... with seeing his holdouts are 8% and Clinton's was 40% in 08.

[lapucelle]

59. Zephyr Teachout is a very, very important progressive voice here in NY

and she did it on her own. It's nice that Sanders supports her, but please, no credit grabs for her success. She was doing well long before Sanders was on the scene.

[Eric J in MN]

62. I didn't say Zephyr Teachout needed

...the support of any specific person to win. I was responding to the accusation that Bernie Sanders didn't fundraise for other candidates.

[840high]

77. Good.

[DavidDvorkin]

36. He's trying to eke out a sixteenth minute of fame.

[aikoaiko]

40. What? And deprive true HRC supporters the opportunity to trash talk Bernie?

He said he's going to convention. It looks like he might. At very least he'll endorse her soon after the convention.

[phleshdef]

45. I personally think his suspension and endorsement has been a planned event between both campaigns...

...for a long time now. They are gonna make a big thing of it and meanwhile Bernie is pursuing doing everything he can to influence the party platform to be as progressively palpable as possible.

[lapucelle]

60. It's too late for it to be a big thing.

People have moved on.

[arikara]

50. What makes you think he was waiting on this

He always said he would take it to the convention. This changes nothing.

[Ken Burch]

51. He has said he will support her. He's not attacking her.

For all practical purposes he is done.

It doesn't make any difference whether he suspends or not, she's got the nom.

[benny05]

53. Exactly, HC is the presumptive nominee

I don't understand why there is a Motley Crew demanding he suspend his campaign. He's not a liability.

[Hoyt]

54. He's waited too long, lucky if his announcement is printed under weather section of newspapers.

He could have -- and should have -- ended his campaign earlier on a much higher note.

[lapucelle]

61. Sanders should have asked for a seat on Air Force One today.

It was a big chance for a major moment.

[Ace Rothstein]

55. But the supers haven't actually voted yet!

/s

[bigwillq]

67. Bernie will suspend when he wants to

And that is fine with me.

Hillary is the nominee. When and if Bernie suspends really makes no difference.

[kstewart33]

69. I don't think it matters anymore.

The country is in general election mode and it will intensify before the Democratic convention.

Bernie will leave when he decides to. But there are far more important things to attend to.

[Chan790]

74. No, because no matter what it was about for "many"...it's never been about that for the campaign.

It's about what it was always about and what the Sanders campaign was always vocally-clear that it was about.

It's about the holding the Democratic party's feet to the fire on economic justice and progressive values...there's no reason to get out as long as there is value in keeping Clinton from being able to move to the center for her "GE footing." The goal now is forcing Hillary to run left and stay left all through not merely the convention or even election day, but her entire term...we're aiming to move the party.

Just because some of Sanders supporters deluded themselves as to what it was about...never made it about the indictment most of us knew wasn't coming and was never even a possibility.

The right time to suspend is...well, never...we were always taking this to the Convention. There will be no suspension because this isn't about the nomination for Sanders supporters, it's about the future direction of the American political left-of-center and who dictates what that direction will be.

I know, personally, I've told you (personally) this at-least 30 times so I'm confused why you keep asking a question you have an answer to...do you think it's going to change?

[BlueMTexpat]

76. He's still waiting

to be declared the winner of the CA primary, IMO.

[Sunlei]

81. I expect him to be good for his word, work on D platform /w Clinton & complete convention process.

He's a benefit to the D party.

[greiner3]

83. "Clean as a whistle"

[DemocratSinceBirth]

84. Can you elaborate please?

Thank you in advance.

[Silver_Witch]

85. Bernie made his stance very clear!

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He and most of us are beyond tired of the supposed email scandal! I have received emails from Bernie's campaign and never once has he made one comment rethe email issue.

He acknowledges Hillary has won the primary and will be the nominee and he has said he will vote for her!

The movement is about more than just the presidential candidate.

[DemonGoddess]

86. He has never actually acknowledged her HISTORIC

victory. Yes, historic. But then again, one only needs to see the behavior he exhibited when running against and then LOSING to Madeleine Kunin. I think we all knew that he would not do this with the grace we've come to expect from losing candidates.

[Silver_Witch]

87. I apologize - I am unable to respond to this post.