Bernie Sanders gets compromise from HRC on college affordablity.

[Eric J in MN]

Hillary Clinton is changing her college-affordability plan in an effort to reach Bernie Sanders supporters, proposing the elimination of public in-state tuition for students whose families make less than $125,000, an aide said.

Clinton’s move toward Sanders’ proposal—tuition-free college at public institutions—comes as she seeks to consolidate the Vermont senator’s backers in her campaign for the White House against Republican Donald Trump.

Clinton would also impose a three-month moratorium on federal student loan payments and endorse reinstating year-round access to Pell Grants, said the aide, who asked not to be named ahead of a formal announcement.

Her proposals follow a meeting with Sanders last month in Washington, where the aide said they discussed how to prioritize college-affordability issues—a key interest of young voters—during the general election. Clinton had just secured the nomination, but Sanders had vowed to press on to the Democratic National Convention that starts July 25.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-07-06/clinton-expands-college-cost-plan-to-appeal-to-sanders-supporters

UPDATE: ".@BernieSanders applauds Clinton for her new "bold" proposal on cost of college and says work combo of two campaigns."


https://twitter.com/maryaliceparks/status/750699781656223744

[stonecutter357]

1. Is Bernie Sanders a member of the Democratic party?

[Eric J in MN]

3. Bernie Sanders serves in Congress as an Independent but caucuses with the Democrats. NT

NT

[cosmicone]

2. In my opinion, Hillary should give him NOTHING

Giving him anything only emboldens him to ask for more.

It is time to cut off negotiations. His sane supporters will vote for her anyway and the remaining ones won't vote for her no matter what she did.

Like Godfather II -- she should say, "Senator, you can have my answer right now"

[Eric J in MN]

4. Too late. He got something. NT

NT

[cosmicone]

5. Proves my point -- he keeps wanting more

This is the first time a loser is demanding stuff from a clear winner

[Eric J in MN]

6. The Democratic Platform Committee is meeting on Friday and Saturday.

I don't expect Sanders will endorse before then.

But maybe he'll endorse next week.

[cosmicone]

8. At this point, Clinton shouldn't care

If he doesn't endorse and drop out, he doesn't get a speaking slot at the convention

[Kentonio]

23. In which case he'd speak outside

And you'd have pictures beamed across the world of thousands of young people protesting the Democratic Convention, instead of the unified party we need. It;s not about what 'he' wants, its about what the large number of his supporters want, and how to ensure they mobilize for Clinton.

[cosmicone]

28. OWS had protests beamed everywhere

without actual votes, grandstanding is just mental self-pleasuring.

[Kentonio]

33. We're talking about millions of votes.

Finding a beneficial common ground is good for the party.

[cosmicone]

34. Not really

It is a lose lose situation.

GE is won in the center -- not in some manifestoland of high taxes and freebies for everyone.

95% of Sanders' supporters will vote for Clinton anyway. The rest were libertarian and RW trolls.

Whatever votes are lost by not agreeing to the extortion, about an equal number if not more will be lost from NPP voters.

Sanders should not put our candidate in a lose-lose situation.

[Kentonio]

37. It's not extortion for goodness sake

The primary was very close, and showed there is a real divide in the party. Finding a middle ground is essential, to ensure those.l people not only come out and vote but actually feel like the party still represents them so they campaign and work hard for us.

[randome]

14. He's obnoxious and he's not as self-important as he imagines but...

...it doesn't hurt to listen and make decisions on good ideas. Pride needs to be taken off the table.

The only thing that we will need to suffer through will be his even more obnoxious supporters screeching, "See? We won! We won!"

When all of this could have been accomplished by working together toward a common goal in the first place. And they will have learned nothing about working as part of a team. But that's the way it goes sometimes.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"[/center][/font][hr]

[cosmicone]

16. Not if he wants the entire manifesto added to the platform

That would hamstring Hillary and give ammo to the right wingers.

[randome]

18. Yeah, I know, there's a fine line between agreement and 'giving in'.

Clinton will find a way to tread that line, though.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"[/center][/font][hr]

[Kentonio]

24. Please check the new TOS

Don't keep fighting the last Democratic presidential primary
Regardless of whether you supported a winning candidate or a losing candidate, do not prolong the agony of the last Democratic presidential primary by continuing to pick fights, place blame, tear down former primary candidates, bait former supporters, or do anything else to pour salt on old wounds.

We're supposed to be unified now, but that's not going to last long if you throw insults at a man many of us greatly admire.

[Tom Rinaldo]

21. Right, no more hand outs

If people can't afford college they should become servants.

[phleshdef]

25. Thats childish.

[elleng]

26. Give HIM nothing?

What about give We the People useful and desirable THINGS?

Are we still in the ANTI-mode here? I thought things were supposed to CHANGE!

[cosmicone]

27. Someone loses, someone wins - the majority won

That's the way democracies are.

Elections have consequences.

[elleng]

29. If this attitude prevails, we will ALL have lost.

You may want to ignore this:

WASHINGTON, D.C. – U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders today welcomed a proposal by Secretary Hillary Clinton which combines the best features of plans that she and Sanders brought forth during the campaign to make higher education affordable for all and substantially reduces student debt.

“As I’ve traveled throughout the country during this campaign, I have heard over and over again from young people and their parents what the high cost of college and student debt is doing to their lives. For some, it means not being able to go to college at all, and that’s the case for hundreds of thousands of high school graduates.

“These are young people who will find it harder to make it into the middle class and fulfill their dreams. For others, it means graduating school deeply in debt, and being forced to pay off that debt year after year after year. And that may mean not being able to buy a home, get married or have kids.

“I want to take this opportunity to applaud Secretary Clinton for the very bold initiative she has just brought forth today for the financing of higher education. This proposal combines some of the strongest ideas she fought for during the campaign with some of the principles that I fought for. The final product is a result of the work of both campaigns.

“Let me be very clear. This proposal, when implemented, will revolutionize the funding of higher education in America, improve the economic future of our country and make life immediately better for tens of millions of people stuck with high levels of student debt.

“This proposed legislation will provide free tuition at public colleges and universities for all families in America earning $125,000 a year or less – 83 percent of our families.

“In other words, the dream of higher education in America will become a reality for all, regardless of the income of one’s family. This proposal will also provide very substantial relief for students and families carrying student debt.

“In the year 2016, we should be encouraging our people to get the best education they can, not punishing them.

“Our goal should be to have the best educated country in the world. In a highly-competitive global economy, it is insane that hundreds of thousands of bright young people are unable to afford the high cost of college and millions more leave school deeply in debt.

“I thank Secretary Clinton for introducing this proposal which, in my view, will have a profound impact on the future of our country.”

A Revolutionary Step Forward for Higher Education
https://berniesanders.com/press-release/revolutionary-step-forward-higher-education/

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512240964

[HarmonyRockets]

38. Is free college something you are in support of or not?

[frazzled]

7. An easy compromise to make

given that a platform is just a piece of paper, and has no legislative weight. This is a huge budget expenditure, and budget expenditures are ultimately determined in the House of Representatives, where this proposal will go to die for the foreseeable future.

One thing that troubles me is the uninvestigated consequences for state university systems, which have always been controlled by the states. How will it affect hiring of tenured faculty? Will it lead to cutbacks in research, in ever-increasing use of adjuncts over tenured senior faculty? How will state systems come to accommodate more students, and potentially more unprepared students? Maybe these are all answerable questions, but to my knowledge, no one has looked at any of the policy implications here in detail.

[Eric J in MN]

9. The basis of Sanders' 'College for All Act' is two-to-one federal matching funds.

States already spend more on state universities than tuition brings in.

The federal matching funds may be enough to make up for the loss of tuition money.

[frazzled]

11. That answers none of my questions

1. The source of those funds through Congressional action
2. The potential repercussions of policy

Simple answers to very complex issues are never a good idea.

[Eric J in MN]

13. The source of the federal funds in Sanders' College for All Act is a tax on Wall St transactions. NT

NT

[frazzled]

15. Yes, and taxes are levied by Congress

Lots of luck with that. As I said, this is a fairly meaningless political sop. And without extensive analysis, it's not even something we should jump into blindly. But I kind of see that you don't get it. If you think legislation happens by magic, I can't help. If you don't care about extensive research into the potential pluses--and minuses--of what could happen, I can't help you either.

[Eric J in MN]

10. Bernie Sanders' statement praising the tuition compromise.

https://twitter.com/People4Bernie/status/750705192639668224

[Sunlei]

19. Good news letter from Sanders. "The free tuition proposal covers 83% of our families."

[jalan48]

12. Thank you Bernie for not conceding!

[Sunlei]

17. Good, both campaigns continue to work together.

[My Good Babushka]

20. I suppose there might have been some value in Sanders

remaining a vocal representative of the progressive liberal faction of the party, after all.

[ismnotwasm]

22. Well good

Yet Another reason to support Hillary. I don't know that it's such a concession to Sanders--he seems quick to take credit--as it is acknowledging poorer students need college debt relief and this was a major part of their attraction to Sanders. Modifying the plan to engage and attract young voters, is also an excellent idea.

If Sanders and Clinton can work together on important issues it's fine with me.

Clinton, aware of her challenge with the younger demographic, is planning a number of targeted outreach efforts in coming months, including stepped-up use of celebrity validators.

College affordability was a major topic during a high-profile meeting Clinton held with Sanders last month, and the two strategized about ways to promote the issue during the general election and in the Democratic Party platform, a statement from Clinton's campaign said. Aides to to the two Democratic presidential candidates have been negotiating a unified plan in recent weeks.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/07/06/clinton-seeks-young-voters-with-wider-debt-free-college-plan/

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

31. Hah! Good!

[elleng]

32. It appears that many here are in no way interested in promoting the general welfare.

[Orangepeel]

35. If she means "propose increasing Pell grants" great!

If it's that cockamamie plan to pay 2/3 to schools if the state pays 1/3, then not as great. Since the "compromise" mentions students, I'm guessing the former. So

[demwing]

36. Asked - Why doesn't Bernie just quit already?

Answered - Because his principled tenacity is making a real difference in the lives of ordinary Americans, that's why!

GO BERNIE!