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If Hillary Clinton Picks Elizabeth Warren, the TPP Is Dead
By Eric Levitz - July 7, 2016 3:01 p.m.
Last week, the Democratic Partys platform committee declined to call for the death of the Trans-Pacific Partnership. On one level, this decision was not surprising: The sitting Democratic president has named the trade agreement one of his administrations top second-term priorities.
But from another vantage point, the position looks a bit curious: A majority of elected Democrats in both the House and Senate voted against advancing the trade agreement last year. And a majority of appointees to the platform committee are officially opposed to the deal. As are both 2016 major-party nominees. Thats a pretty broad base of opposition to what is almost certainly the most consequential legislation that has a chance of passing within the next 12 months.
Contrary to the way debate over the agreement is often framed, the TPP is about a lot more than free trade. The United States already has trade agreements with 6 of the 11 participants in the deal, and beyond the provisions that reduce tariffs on dairy products, Malaysian shark fins, and Vietnamese whale meat, the TPP contains a bevy of protectionist measures that insulate the American pharmaceutical and entertainment industries against competition, by strengthening international patent and copyright laws. In the case of the former, that means exporting Americas insanely high drug prices to parts of the world that can scarcely afford them, while making it even more difficult for American progressives to pass reforms that would significantly reduce domestic drug costs. Which isn't to say that there are no positive arguments to be made on behalf of the agreement, in terms of promoting global growth or increasing the United States geopolitical influence. But the point is that the TPP isnt some niche issue it is a vast collection of controversial policies that will need to be accepted or rejected en masse....
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underpants
(182,797 posts)and be quiet. Just saying.
think
(11,641 posts)as she says in the video below. (It can can also be found at the link in the original article)
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)It's almost a purely ceremonial position.
Since Warren didn't run for the nomination (personally I wish she had) she needs to remain in the Senate. Plus, doesn't Massachusetts have a Republican governor? Who'd appoint a Republican to fill her seat.
emulatorloo
(44,120 posts)Harry Reid's found a way that she would not need give up her Senate seat until the last minute. And a special election would happen immediately after. Governor will not be in a position to appoint anybody.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)There's lots of room that does not include refusing to become part of the partnership.
But, IF we did refuse to join, the TPP would not be dead at all. That notion is deluded. The Pacific member nations would formulate policy that would affect us but without internal control from us.
emulatorloo
(44,120 posts)And the idea that Warren would be replaced by a Republican gov. I'm very excited about the possibility of Sen. Warren.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)to economic reform would signal HRC's direction. Certainly if she were offered and accepted the VP slot it would signal that they had reached agreement on how to proceed with the TPP.
Exilednight
(9,359 posts)That's what Reid wants to happen, but he has not actually cut a deal, nor does he have the authority to control Massachusette's governor.
The law says that a special election must be held within, I believe it is 60 days. The governor does get to appoint a replacement for those sixty days.
If I were a governor I would drag my feet and go for the whole 60 days and slow down the first 100 days agenda.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)I never heard anything good about it.
It is basically the NAFTA of Asia right? That is seen as a disaster to the Democratic base.
I feel like I am missing something. He should just let it go.
Exilednight
(9,359 posts)Ash_F
(5,861 posts)How could that harm us?
Exilednight
(9,359 posts)Canada, Mexico, Chile, Australia, New Zealand and six other countries.
If China cuts a deal without us, the argument goes, then they could strip away environmental practices and workers rights.
In the economics community, opinion is divided.
Personally, I believe it's a very bad deal with little in there for supporting environmental protections or workers rights. And even if China did cut its own deal there is nothing to stop us from making our own deal with tougher provisions - so long as they don't interfere with China's deal.
Example: China cuts a deal that says all exlorts entering its country must be made by workers making a minimum of $3 per day. What's there to stop us from making a deal that says imlorts entering our country must be paid $10 minimum per day? It still meets China's demands.