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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 05:48 PM Jul 2016

Prediction markets saying Kaine and Pence most likely VP choices.

Both of them are around 50%.
Dems:

Tim Kaine 53 % $ 0.440 $ 0.617
Tom Perez 14 % $ 0.160 $ 0.124
Elizabeth Warren 15 % $ 0.145 $ 0.153
Sherrod Brown 8 % $ 0.080
Cory Booker 5 % $ 0.055 $ 0.037
Julian Castro 9 % $ 0.045 $ 0.135
Bernie Sanders 4 % $ 0.045 $ 0.036
Al Franken 2 % $ 0.015 $ 0.019
Martin OMalley 1 % $ 0.005 $ 0.020
Deval Patrick 1 %

http://predictwise.com/politics/2016-president-republican-vice-president-nomination
GOP:
Mike Pence 47 % $ 0.455 $ 0.492 $ 0.450 $ 0.460 1.80 2.34
Newt Gingrich 20 % $ 0.260 $ 0.133 $ 0.250 $ 0.270 5.60 11.50
Chris Christie 12 % $ 0.130 $ 0.104 $ 0.120 $ 0.140 8.00 12.00
Jeff Sessions 7 % $ 0.075 $ 0.061 $ 0.070 $ 0.080 4.00 19.00
Michael Flynn 5 % $ 0.060 $ 0.042 $ 0.050 $ 0.070 20.00 0.00
John Kasich 5 % $ 0.025 $ 0.077 $ 0.020 $ 0.030 10.00 18.50
Scott Brown 2 % $ 0.025 $ 0.014 $ 0.020 $ 0.030 46.00 170.00
Nikki Haley 1 % $ 0.015 $ 0.006 $ 0.010 $ 0.020 100.00 1,000.00
Susana Martinez 2 % $ 0.015 $ 0.028 $ 0.010 $ 0.020 18.50 380.00
Joni Ernst 1 % $ 0.015 $ 0.005 $ 0.010 $ 0.020 130.00 390.00
Ted Cruz 1 % $ 0.015 $ 0.006 $ 0.010 $ 0.020 100.00 990.00
Marsha Blackburn 1 % $ 0.015 $ 0.010 $ 0.020
Rick Santorum 1 % $ 0.015 $ 0.010 $ 0.020
John Thune 1 % $ 0.015 $ 0.010 $ 0.020
Marco Rubio 1 % $ 0.005 $ 0.011 $ 0.000 $ 0.010 48.00 1,000.00
Mike Huckabee 1 % $ 0.005 $ 0.012 $ 0.000 $ 0.010 44.00 990.00
Scott Walker 0 % $ 0.005 $ 0.002 $ 0.000 $ 0.010 280.00 0.00
Carly Fiorina 1 % $ 0.005 $ 0.007 $ 0.000 $ 0.010 75.00 0.00
Rob Portman 1 % $ 0.005 $ 0.005 $ 0.000 $ 0.010 100.00 0.00
Condi Rice 1 % $ 0.005 $ 0.006 $ 0.000 $ 0.010 100.00 1,000.00
Bob Corker 1 % $ 0.005 $ 0.006 $ 0.000 $ 0.010 100.00 590.00
Mary Fallin 0 % $ 0.005 $ 0.003 $ 0.000 $ 0.010 200.00 990.00
Tom Cotton 1 % $ 0.005 $ 0.013 $ 0.000 $ 0.010 44.00 0.00
Rand Paul 0 % $ 0.005 $ 0.000 $ 0.010
Rudy Giuliani 0 % $ 0.005 $ 0.000 $ 0.010

http://predictwise.com/blog/2016-president-democratic-vice-president-nomination

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Prediction markets saying Kaine and Pence most likely VP choices. (Original Post) DanTex Jul 2016 OP
Kaine would be a terrible disappointment. Squinch Jul 2016 #1
Yes he would. It would be a squandered opportunity to generate excitement morningfog Jul 2016 #15
I like Tim Kaine democrattotheend Jul 2016 #38
Both are certainly acceptable to Wall St., so probably. -nt- NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #2
I'm glad I'm excited by Hillary because Kaine does not do it for me at all. Metric System Jul 2016 #3
Kaine is a really good choice. underpants Jul 2016 #4
Yeah, but McAuliffe will pick either Gerry Connolly or Don Beyer as the replacement. FSogol Jul 2016 #6
I just don't know what Kaine brings to the ticket Doctor Jack Jul 2016 #5
I don't know much about him, he seems like the "default" choice. DanTex Jul 2016 #7
Sad but true Doctor Jack Jul 2016 #8
Anyone who won't vote for two women won't vote for one, either. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #9
Maybe. But also maybe, people who are crazy enough to sit out the election DanTex Jul 2016 #10
I'd love to see her debate Gingrinch or Christie or Pirates of Penzance or whatever his name is. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #14
LOL. Pirates of Penzance. DanTex Jul 2016 #22
I will not make socks for pay or play. I will not make socks for tricks, or brocks Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #32
Remember that he was the DNC Chairman at one point underpants Jul 2016 #11
By 'at one point' you mean during years in whic we suffered massive losses and shrinking Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #19
Trump's bigotry does not discount the importance, or perhaps morningfog Jul 2016 #16
Beccera's downside is that nobody other than political junkies have ever heard of him. Lord Magus Jul 2016 #30
A boring white guy from a swing state. Chan790 Jul 2016 #20
he doesn't have any glaring weaknesses, politically speaking anyways geek tragedy Jul 2016 #12
But does he have any glaring strengths? morningfog Jul 2016 #17
My preference is Warren.nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #23
I love Warren, but Charlie Baker would choose her replacement. morningfog Jul 2016 #24
Hence the prominence of Kaine as a VP possibility. geek tragedy Jul 2016 #28
like it or not she doesn't have a ton of choices dsc Jul 2016 #13
Kaine would be asking a lot of LGBT voters. Hillary should not ask that. Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #18
I hope its Warren not Kaine but... jcgoldie Jul 2016 #25
Perez please! misterhighwasted Jul 2016 #21
Great article on Perez hollowdweller Jul 2016 #31
Of any VP's publicly listed, Perez is my choice misterhighwasted Jul 2016 #34
The problem is nobody outside fervent followers of Exilednight Jul 2016 #35
They'll get to know Perez as soon as his name is in the news. misterhighwasted Jul 2016 #36
kaine!!! mblock Jul 2016 #26
LOL.. misterhighwasted Jul 2016 #37
They didn't even list the guy who I am thinking she will pick: Tom Vilsack StevieM Jul 2016 #27
Gonna go for the long shot Vegas odds on this one for Trimp Separation Jul 2016 #29
I really, really, really, really, really, really hope it's not Kaine. I'll be even less enthusiastic highprincipleswork Jul 2016 #33
 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
15. Yes he would. It would be a squandered opportunity to generate excitement
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 09:22 PM
Jul 2016

and pick an interesting and capable running mate.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
5. I just don't know what Kaine brings to the ticket
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 07:18 PM
Jul 2016

Sure, he's been in elected office for awhile but he has little charisma, little appeal, and is mostly unknown to people outside of Virginia. I can see why Clinton wants to play it safe and appear to be the stable candidate, while Trump looks like a screaming hippo with explosive diarrhea. However, there is a difference between going with a safe candidate and going with someone that is extremely dull.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
7. I don't know much about him, he seems like the "default" choice.
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 07:29 PM
Jul 2016

In ruthlessly political terms, I think the inclination to choose a Latino is somewhat lessened by the fact that Trump has already offended the entire Latino community. Warren would mean two women on the ticket, which might be too much for men with latent sexist tendencies. So who's left? A boring white guy from a swing state.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
8. Sad but true
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 07:33 PM
Jul 2016

I think there are much better white guys that she could pick though, if she wants to go that route. I just hope that if they go with Kaine that they have reason to believe he is a better candidate than we give him credit for.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
9. Anyone who won't vote for two women won't vote for one, either.
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 07:52 PM
Jul 2016

I think Warren would do enough to unify the disparate wings of the party and enthuse voters- plus she's proven she can kick ass and take names- that it would make up both for the loss of the Senate seat and any freakouts over "two women".

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
10. Maybe. But also maybe, people who are crazy enough to sit out the election
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 08:09 PM
Jul 2016

because Hillary isn't socialist enough aren't going to vote for her even with Warren on the ticket. If you doubt that, see what some such people have been saying about Warren on some other websites/youtube since she started campaigning for Hillary. On the other hand, I don't really know how irrational or sexist people vote, so maybe those things actually can happen.

I'd be happy with Warren, my only real concern is losing the Senate seat. Politically, it would help with the liberal base but might hurt with trying to pull centrists and moderate Republican cross-overs.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
14. I'd love to see her debate Gingrinch or Christie or Pirates of Penzance or whatever his name is.
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 09:13 PM
Jul 2016

That's part of it.

I don't really pay attention to other websites or youtube. You know, there's only one of me, I barely have time for this place.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
22. LOL. Pirates of Penzance.
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 10:38 PM
Jul 2016

If you need more time for looking at websites, take some time off work and get on the David Brock payroll. Tell him I sent you...

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
32. I will not make socks for pay or play. I will not make socks for tricks, or brocks
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 01:22 AM
Jul 2016

I will not play sock games with tricky brock names.
I will not play brock games with tricky sock names!

underpants

(182,788 posts)
11. Remember that he was the DNC Chairman at one point
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 08:11 PM
Jul 2016

That brings extensive contacts deep into the volunteer infrastructure and fund raising.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
19. By 'at one point' you mean during years in whic we suffered massive losses and shrinking
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 09:35 PM
Jul 2016

turnout. Just to be clear. He was a terrible Chair of the Party.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
16. Trump's bigotry does not discount the importance, or perhaps
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 09:24 PM
Jul 2016

urgency, of a Latino on the ticket. It fact, to me, it almost requires it. As a way to say, no, that is not who we are. Xavier Beccera for VEEP.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
30. Beccera's downside is that nobody other than political junkies have ever heard of him.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 12:43 AM
Jul 2016

His upside is that when they do hear of him they'll like what they see. And besides, it's not like Tim Kaine has a national profile either.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
20. A boring white guy from a swing state.
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 09:50 PM
Jul 2016

He's also to the right of Hillary, a bad debater and comes across as dull in the noggin. I'm not sure what he brings to the ticket.

He's not exciting, he's not charismatic or a great campaigner, he's not an attack dog that allows HRC to remain above the fray (and she's at her best in the fray), he doesn't have any grand ideas or issues that his nomination conveys, he's not "the guy you want in case he needs to step up, god forbid", he's not a Democrat likely to move his home state. (That would be the other VA Senator. Honestly, Kaine seems to just have a lot of luck of being the Democrat on the ballot when the GOP goes crazy and nominates the unelectable.), his term as DNC chair was poor and only looks good in retrospect because DWS who followed him is epically-bad at the job.

We can do better. We should do better because there's a solid chance this is our 2024 nominee, whoever Hillary picks.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
12. he doesn't have any glaring weaknesses, politically speaking anyways
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 08:17 PM
Jul 2016

he was antichoice a decade ago, but of course has 'evolved' on the issue as he's become a national politician, and as VA has gotten bluer and bluer

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
28. Hence the prominence of Kaine as a VP possibility.
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 11:16 PM
Jul 2016

Massachusetts and NJ have R governors, VA has a Democrat. Politics is weird.

dsc

(52,160 posts)
13. like it or not she doesn't have a ton of choices
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 09:07 PM
Jul 2016

thanks to our dismal performance in 2014 governor races. Warren, Brown, Booker to name three are eliminated thanks to GOP governors.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
18. Kaine would be asking a lot of LGBT voters. Hillary should not ask that.
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 09:33 PM
Jul 2016

He's a giant, leaping bigot. His sort of politician should be allowed to fade away and radiate.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
21. Perez please!
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 09:52 PM
Jul 2016

He's smart, doesn't mince words & its impossible to lead the conversation away from his main point.

He's nobody's fool.
Please choose Perez

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
35. The problem is nobody outside fervent followers of
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 10:12 AM
Jul 2016

The Democratic Party knows who he is, not even in Texas.

I think it will be Kaine. Yes he's dull but he at least has a slight name recognition on the national stage and a big one in VA.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
36. They'll get to know Perez as soon as his name is in the news.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 11:13 AM
Jul 2016

There's not much baggage with him, for the GOP to drag up. No old conflicts within the Dem Party in his history.

Who knows.
Maybe Hillary has someone else who's name she's keeping quiet.
Playing her cards close to the vest is something she does for necessary reasons. Especially when playing a high stakes game against the corrupt cheaters of the GOP.

We can only guess until she officially makes her choice known.
Enjoy your day.


Separation

(1,975 posts)
29. Gonna go for the long shot Vegas odds on this one for Trimp
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 12:11 AM
Jul 2016

Im gonna have to pick General Michael Flynn. I think that he is going to need to pick somebody that shows the public that he has somebody with military experience.

Heard it here first.

For Clinton, Im gonna have to go with Tom Perez. nothing concrete, just a hunch.

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