2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIs it NEWT??? Sweet Honey in the Rock, say it ain't so....!!
From: https://twitter.com/mlcalderone
It could very well be FAUXSNOOZE trying to steal a bit of the news cycle from the Clinton-Sanders Unity Rally and Endorsement today...but EWWWWWWWWW.
Talk about a guy with ISSUES and an ego to match The Big Drumpfass's!!!!
BlueNoMatterWho
(880 posts)Siwsan
(26,262 posts)Putting aside the serial philanderer and ego issues, Newt has that whole ethics violation thing that kind of drove him from Congress.
BlueNoMatterWho
(880 posts)Although Agent Orange has said he was going the "political route" with his choice to get things pushed through Congress.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I dont know enough about that pirates of penzance guy to say if he does, too.
Siwsan
(26,262 posts)That has to be the most gawd-awful crowd of politicians, ever.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Its a short list, even by GOP standards.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)n/t.
exboyfil
(17,863 posts)Newt has nothing to lose, and it forces Hillary Clinton to chose someone with a lot of experience (and baggage). Perez and Castro for example are probably off the table. I think a good counter would be Xavier Becerra. Tim Kaine will probably get it, and I don't see how he can help much (maybe ensure Virginia at least).
MADem
(135,425 posts)Ask yourself these questions:
Is there a former SECSTATE on Trump's shortlist? Any cabinet member at all?
A former twice-elected Senator from one of our most populated states and one that contains a city known as one of the world's capitals? A two term First Lady who had her own portfolio dealing with children's health care and women's rights -- with international reach? A gubernatorial First Lady who also held her own portfolio at the state level? Someone who worked in government and was a civil rights worker from the time she finished her college education onward?
NO candidate has a better resume than Clinton.
Newt is a thrice married blowhard who came to the fore in the House on an agenda of discord, the Contract With (some would say ON) America, and who just as quickly fell from grace as a consequence of scandal and overreach. He's got a shitload of work to do before he could hold a candle to HRC--she's got better chops than all of Drumpf's possible VPs put together!
Hell, she could run with Bugs Bunny and have a better ticket than he can dream up!
exboyfil
(17,863 posts)the Presidency. I would offer no opening for attack (remember Quayle and Bentsen?). She could win with Bugs Bunny, but why take the chance.
I agree with you that Hillary Clinton has one of the best resumes for anyone ever to run for President.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Let's hope whoever HRC picks is more sympathetic than THIS guy:
CanonRay
(14,101 posts)HRC can just start measuring the oval office drapes.
MADem
(135,425 posts)In other news, Evan Bayh is IN, he is running for Senate in Indiana again--so it's looking good for our team!!!!!!!
We might retake the Senate (please please please)....
glennward
(989 posts)Leave no vote un-turned!
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)why don't we just let Trump/Newt fester for a few months and drag downballot races down too?
RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)Check out the Family Values on these guys!!!
MADem
(135,425 posts)I'll bet Newt likes it, too...
Gothmog
(145,213 posts)This could be fun
MADem
(135,425 posts)but this article from a few years back does make some salient points:
Adultery For Me, But Not For Thee: A Master List of Gingrich's Hypocrisies
BY THOMAS STACKPOLE, DARIUS TAHIR, AND JARAD VARY
December 5, 2011
https://newrepublic.com/article/98097/newt-gingrich-scandal-hypocrisy
Newt Gingrich is no stranger to hypocrisies. Its just that his own self-righteousness often gets in the way of admitting to them: Theres no question at times of my life, partially driven by how passionately I felt about this country, that I worked far too hard and things happened in my life that were not appropriate, the family-values candidate once famously said about his multiple extra-marital affairs. So in the service of airing out other yawning gaps between Newts words and deeds that may have emerged when the candidate was too busy loving America, TNR has compiled the following index:
On Christian moralizing: Gingrichs litany of infidelities has been widely reported, as has his habit of leaving wives for mistresses. Of the affair that he carried on with a volunteer during his first campaign in 1974, one of his aides said, Wed have won in 1974 if we could have kept him out of the office, screwing her on the desk. But that hasnt stopped him from claiming positions of moral loftiness, decrying the impending downfall of our society, and penning books arguing, There is no attack on American culture more deadly and more historically dishonest than the secular effort to drive God out of Americas public life. His second wife, in a 2010 interview with Esquire, claimed, He believes that what he says in public and how he lives dont have to be connected. If you believe that, then yeah, you can run for president.
On shady book deals: In the late 1980s, Gingrich launched a vicious attack on Democratic Speaker Jim Wright, arguing that bulk sales of his book had been crafted to avoid laws limiting outside income for members of Congress. By the mid-90s, however, Gingrich found himself in a strikingly similar position, as it came to light that he had received a $4.5 million advance from HarperCollins in a two-book deal. Then, in the spirit of one doing one better, it later came out that one of Gingrichs charities had bought the books en masse.
On Obamacare and death panels: In July 2009, Newt Gingrich was director of a health care think tank and a staunch advocate of so-called death panels, writing, If [end-of-life-counseling] was used to care for the approximately 4.5 million Medicare beneficiaries who die every year, Medicare could save more than $33 billion a year. But a year later, as he weighed his presidential aspirations, Gingrich took a different tack on Obamas plan to reimburse doctors for such consultations: Youre asking us to trust turning power over to the government, when there clearly are people in America who believe in establishing euthanasia.
On the housing crisis: In the Bloomberg-Washington Post debate, Newt called, with a straight face, for the jailing of Chris Dodd and Barney Frank: In Barney Franks case, he advised, go back and look at the lobbyists he was close to atat Freddie Mac. Everybody in the media who wants to go after the business community ought to start by going after the politicians who have been at the heart of the sickness which is weakening this country. All that rage at lobbyists for the housing agencies from a man whom Freddie Mac paid between $1.6 and $1.8 million for his advice as a historian. Which definitely isnt lobbying, and would never qualify as the sort of relationship that he just suggested was worthy of being jailed for.
On drug policy: As a good child of the 60s, Newt smoked pot, and as a young congressman in 1981, he authored a bill to legalize the use of marijuana for medical purposes. But Gingrichs more recent stated methods for dealing with drug offenders might have placed his younger self in a tight spot. Just last week, he argued that when it comes to dealing with illegal drugs, Places like Singapore have been the most successful at doing that, ostensibly endorsing the idea that anyone caught with 18 ounces of cannabis face mandatory death by hanging.
On corruption: Newt led Republicans to power in 1994 in part by blasting Democrats as being hopelessly corrupt. But soon after, Gingrich engaged in his own congressional corruption, getting slammed by the House Ethics Committee on a multitude of charges: of laundering donations through charities, of using a charity called Learning for Earning to pay the salary of a staffer writing a Newt Gingrich biography, and of lying to the ethics committee. Gingrich eventually had to pay a $300,000 fine for his transgressions.
On the Clinton impeachment: While leading impeachment proceedings against President Bill Clinton for lying about an extra-marital affair, Newt was having an extra-marital affair. When he was later asked whether he considered himself to be inhabiting a glass house during the proceedings, he reluctantly agreed, but defended himself by saying, I think you have to look at whether or not people have to be perfect in order to be leaders. I dont think Im perfect. I admitted I had problems. I admitted that I sought forgiveness.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Like Ted Cruz, I simply can't imagine one single woman letting him touch her, much less three.
3catwoman3
(23,977 posts)They are both persuasive arguments for celibacy.
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)Poor thing--maybe she'll dump him now that he's been thwarted for the Presidency, and find her true happiness. Apparently she had a successful career (working for Goldman Sachs) before she married Teddy boy, and the constraints of housewifely marriage and motherhood perhaps did not agree with her.
Who wouldn't be depressed and in grave despair having to look at that gumby-faced Grampa Munster every day?
greatauntoftriplets
(175,735 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)and soundly losing each time.
MADem
(135,425 posts)And then, mid campaign, The Donald starts bellowing:
YER FIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Zambero
(8,964 posts)Advance to be recognized, and don't forget to put in a good word for "traditional marriage", being experts on the subject.