So Trump is betting a plurality or majority of Americans

[DemocratSinceBirth]

So Trump is betting a plurality or majority of Americans believe that we are a weak nation where law and order has broken down, our enemies laugh at us, our economy is at the point of a melt down and only a strong man like him can fix it.

That is Trumpism in a nutshell.

Reminds me of when Joe Louis was asked how he could support a nation and don its uniform in WW ll when the nation for whom he was donning its uniform consigned him to second class citizenship. The Bronx Bomber replied "Ain't nothing Hitler can fix."


I despise Trump. He is sui generis, in a bad way. I vehemently disagree with Republicans but Trump is the worst of the worst. For all their flaws and they were manifest at least Nixon, Bush, and Reagan paid lip service to the rule of law and democratic norms.

Trump is a dagger targeted at the heart of democracy.

[pipoman]

1. Trump is the result of a broken 2 party system.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. Ain't nothing he can fix

Trump is a result of people at war with modernity, tolerance, and heterogeneity. They long for a simpler time that didn't exist or if it existed didn't exist for a lot of people who are now being empowered.

[pipoman]

6. He wouldn't be viable at all if Dems hadn't abandoned labor...but alas...

He is being carried by blue collar who used to be represented by Democrats.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. He is being carried by those whose see others making gains at their expense

He is being carried, to a large degree, by those whose see others making gains at their expense and those others happen to be women, people of color, and immigrants.


And I summarily reject the notion that America is this dystopian place Trump portrays.

[Bobcat]

11. Spot On

I think you have described Trump's base to a tee. Adam Gopnik, in an article for the New Yorker this week, described these people as suffering from "usurpation anxiety". He nailed it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. I describe them to a tee and America isn't nearly, nearly, nearly...nearly as messed up as Trump...

I described them to a tee and America isn't nearly, nearly, nearly...nearly as messed up as Trump suggests.

[Safe as Milk]

21. Trump's tactic is to reframe the country's status...

... insurmountably corrupt, weak, and visionless, and then to assert that ONLY TRUMP can lead the US out of his own self-described morass.

This is what tin-horn dictators have done since the beginning of recorded history. And that's exactly what Trump will be if he's elected. Sure, we can hope that the other branches of government will restrain his crazed notion of governance, but Trump can and WILL declare national emergencies to seize control over Congress and the Judiciary. It's the only way he can "WIN". And remember, Trump believes that, above all, he's a "WINNER". It doesn't matter what he wins, and long as he wins. If he says he's going to build a wall, then the ends justify the means. He'll overcome institutional restraints and build the wall. And that will be the end of representative government.

[Person 2713]

18. Strange eyes. Wonder how they don't see multintl corps and 1% gaining at their loss ?

People like this create the dystopia

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. I don't believe your average Trumpian

I don't believe your average Trumpist sees the concentration of wealth as a source of his or her problem. They are more content to blame it on the black guy, the Mexican guy, or the woman down the street. All one needs to do is look at his rallies and the who the attendees wrath is aimed at.

[Surya Gayatri]

10. ^^^This!^^^

Trump is a result of people at war with modernity, tolerance, and heterogeneity.

[nruthie]

2. You expressed my feelings well.

He is terrifying.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. Frightening.

[Bluenorthwest]

4. I don't understand the desire to polish Reagan and Bush at all. I get that straights only

consider other straights to be actual humans but you do understand that Reagan aggressively neglected to act while over 30,000 Americans died of AIDS. Reagan said nothing, did nothing for over seven years. A couple of times his press sec told AIDS jokes and they all laughed as Americans died.
So you see, I don't see that as some minor 'flaw' at all. Sorry.

The minute Reagan gets touted, I vomit and walk away.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. Nobody is touting Reagan

If you believe stating "I vehemently disagree with Republicans but Trump is the worst of the worst. For all their flaws and they were manifest at least Nixon, Bush, and Reagan paid lip service to the rule of law and democratic norms. " is tantamount to supporting Reagan there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion.

Reagan sucked. Trump represents incipient fascism.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

15. "straights only consider other straights to be actual humans" !?!? Speak for yourself.

With that sentiment you do NOT speak for me.

I am sure you do NOT speak for the vast majority of DU.

I am sure you do NOT speak for the majority of the United States of America.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. I don't know how our friend inferred from my seminal post I like Reagan.

All I said was for all their flaws and they were manifest at least Reagan, Nixon, and Bush pretended we lived in a democracy and didn't need a strongman to save us !!!

[yardwork]

27. That poster doesn't speak for me, a gay person, either.

[yardwork]

26. Where did you get that from the OP?

That wild accusation is nowhere supported by the OP.

[mia]

7. Weak men, like Trump, thrive on the breakdown of law and order.

It keeps the citizens afraid and preoccupied while people like him loot the economy. Trump knows the minds of our enemies because he is one of them.

[Her Sister]

13. Meme: Black Prez Obama means the breakdown of Law & Order and all that is dear to America.

Because he is Black therefore he is incompetent. Not a hard meme to promote. Not a dog-whistle hard to blow...

BTW, Yesterday Trump said Obama needed HRC to come up with his ideas. So blame a lot of problems on Clinton, who btw is female & thus crooked.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

14. You are forgetting Trump is betting most Americans are under-employed white males. . . nt

[Person 2713]

20. Even that is a poor bet. I know some in this demo over 35, and they all said they were for

Sanders . They are blue collar and do contract work , some live in mobile homes none for trump.
On the other hand when I drive through the uber rich suburbs I see Trump signs and also I have seen more women wearing trump gear
Just betting on idiots and haters . Look all the professionals who have been exposed for racists FB crap they are the true trumpers

[Springslips]

25. I've seen this too.

Lots of retired docs and lawyers, millionaires former biz owners pumping Trump. I have also seen underemployed whites--male and female--going Trump. This focus on poor whites is out of touch--the Tumper are the usual Republicans, that's all; nothing new. The only dif is that establishment figures are pissed they didn't get their way--so they, and some old fashion paleo-conserves, are against him.

[kimbutgar]

32. I would with 3 2nd generation trust fund young men and they are supporting the cheeto

And this is in the SF Bay Area. They like that the Cheeto is going to eliminate the estate tax and cut their families taxes.

[Martin Eden]

16. "Ain't nothing Hitler can fix."

Thank you for that quote, and kudos to the Brown Bomber for putting his military service into context.

Donald Trump's rhetoric does not accurately identify America's problems, and he certainly isn't the person to "fix" what ails us. If anything, Trump is the embodiment of what's wrong with our country.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

22. My friend who is black said the same thing.

Louis, the great heavyweight champion, had become in the 1930's a national hero, to whites as well as blacks, by virtue of his fists and his demeanor. When he knocked out Max Schmeling, Hitler's Ubermensch, in the first round in 1938, he was hailed as emblematic of a powerful America. And while he was unlettered, he was knowing. Irwin Rosee, a publicist close to Louis, recalls the time another black man objected to Louis's decision to enlist in the Army in 1942. ''It's a white man's Army, Joe, it ain't a black man's Army,'' the man said. Louis looked at him, and explained his decision: ''Lots of things wrong with America, but Hitler ain't going to fix them.''


http://www.nytimes.com/1997/04/22/sports/joe-louis-was-there-earlier.html

My friend who is black said the same thing.


He joined the military at 17 in 1951. He was from Selma, Alabama so you know he saw Jim Crow up close and personal. I asked him how he could risk his life for a country that treated him shabbily. He said because he believed in the promise of America. He is an amazing man. He put twenty years in the military and then another twenty years working as civilian with the military. Along the way he made a small investment in a black owned community bank that he parlayed into over a million dollars.

[heaven05]

23. if dems and our leadership

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had not shown such political cowardice during the last 15-16 YEARS, we would not have this hitler redux as a viable candidate. I hope he's enough to shake the majority out of their stupor to defeat him in November.....I hope......

[unblock]

24. trump is the natural result of the faux propaganda machine

give an audience incredibly biased, strident, polemic reporting -- and worse yet, claim it's "fair and balanced" -- then don't be surprised if a candidate emerges in that same vein, appealing to that same audience.

he *is* fox news in a nutshell.

lies, shouting, interrupting, insults, ridiculous policy positions that appeal not to any critical thinking but only to hate and greed and fear.

even his bragging is typical of fox news.

[fob]

28. Just as an FYI, Joe Louis was from Detroit, his nickname is the

Brown Bomber.

Other than that, yes, fuck trump.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

33. I believe he was born in Alabama.

[retrowire]

29. he plays at our insecurities.

Where as a liberal has little insecurity and is fully confident in what we're capable of.

Wanna talk about American pride? Ask a liberal.

Wanna talk about American fear? Ask a conservative.

[AgadorSparticus]

30. Trump is straight up fascism.

[MoonRiver]

31. He is a horrifying, ignorant fascist!

And he MUST NEVER see the inside of our White House, as a resident. Meaning, Dems have to GOTV, because that's what will prevent the nightmare from happening!