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redStateBlueHeart

(265 posts)
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 07:54 PM Jul 2016

Donald Trump is the worst presidential candidate I've ever seen in my lifetime.

Granted, I'm in my late 20s so the only presidents I've lived under are GHWB, Clinton, Bush and Obama. Trump is perhaps the single worst candidate I've ever seen running for the presidency - he makes GWB look competent and articulate in comparison, for God's sake.

Who's the worst candidate you've seen? The candidate I most often hear Trump compared to is George Wallace. For those who remember the Wallace campaign: was Wallace as bad or worse than Trump?

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Donald Trump is the worst presidential candidate I've ever seen in my lifetime. (Original Post) redStateBlueHeart Jul 2016 OP
Mine too... its like they choose the most hateful bastard they could get to be president and then... uponit7771 Jul 2016 #1
Nixon made a deal with North Vietnam while he was running for President The Second Stone Jul 2016 #2
few people know this. One of the truly most monstrously reprehensible things done to our Bill USA Jul 2016 #3
Trump could easily do these things or worse. yardwork Jul 2016 #10
the guy is a total fraud. Like a 14 yr old kid at boarding school shooting off his mouth to Bill USA Jul 2016 #4
His dad sent him to military school TexasBushwhacker Jul 2016 #16
and, the Donald's military school experience NewJeffCT Jul 2016 #30
Yeah, that's why he got deferments for is heal spurs TexasBushwhacker Jul 2016 #31
May he be the worst you ever see in the rest of your very long life! (nt) enough Jul 2016 #5
Hear, hear! n/t redStateBlueHeart Jul 2016 #8
As far as presidential races, yep, he's worse than Wallace. DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #6
Hard for me to decide between tRump and DimSon (aka George W. Bush). MoonRiver Jul 2016 #7
Yes, I believe he does PatSeg Jul 2016 #33
President Bush had professionals running his campaign PJMcK Jul 2016 #37
I remember Wallace. Trump is worse. yardwork Jul 2016 #9
Trump treestar Jul 2016 #11
I was born under Eisenhower MFM008 Jul 2016 #12
I go back to Nixon (the first time) anhydrous Trump is the worst. CanonRay Jul 2016 #13
Trump makes Wallace appear normal. DCBob Jul 2016 #14
Wallace was really bad, but he had government experience. He was a racist when the south was, L. Coyote Jul 2016 #21
Surprised not to see Saint Reagan mentioned more localroger Jul 2016 #15
Trump is definitely the worst. nruthie Jul 2016 #17
Goldwater was right up there... Blue Idaho Jul 2016 #18
Perot was bad. woolldog Jul 2016 #19
Likewise for us oldsters who watched Kennedy win the nomination. Given Nixon that says a lot. L. Coyote Jul 2016 #20
One of the Republican candidates (several actually...) completely nailed Trump. He's a R B Garr Jul 2016 #22
He's amazingly bad. Let's hope he stays the worst candidate. sofa king Jul 2016 #23
I'm pretty sure Trump is the worst republican conserative candidate in my life... HereSince1628 Jul 2016 #24
Worst in what respect, Charlie? (I know she was Veep candidate, but couldn't resist.) GreenPartyVoter Jul 2016 #25
George Wallace without a doubt, along with his VP choice of Curtis LeMay still_one Jul 2016 #26
as bad as Wallace was greymattermom Jul 2016 #34
Wallace was at least as bad as Trump, and just as racist. The other danger of Wallace was his VP still_one Jul 2016 #35
Plus Trump's every bit as racist as Wallace was. -nt- Lord Magus Jul 2016 #36
I'm a lot older than you, but I'd put Trump up with Goldwater, who also had the nomination. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #27
There have been a lot of really horrendous and/or ridiculous minor candidates. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2016 #28
Even though he was never a serious threat, LaRouche was crazy Blue_Tires Jul 2016 #29
He is bad at the one GOP fundamental that really matters to them: money. randome Jul 2016 #32
See your 20 and raise you 50. trof Jul 2016 #38
I always thought McCain ran a horrible campaign and was a poor candidate. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #39

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
1. Mine too... its like they choose the most hateful bastard they could get to be president and then...
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 07:55 PM
Jul 2016

... gave him some child like cards to read to the media which he just throws away and says anything that comes out of his stupid mouth.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
2. Nixon made a deal with North Vietnam while he was running for President
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 07:57 PM
Jul 2016

that kept the Vietnam war going throughout the election. He then broke his promise to the North Vietnamese and kept the war going for many years. Reagan did the same thing with the hostages in Iran.

Frankly, these are far more disgusting than anything Trump has done that we know of. Trump is pretty loathsome as far as we know. Highly unqualified.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
3. few people know this. One of the truly most monstrously reprehensible things done to our
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 08:12 PM
Jul 2016

country in our history.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
4. the guy is a total fraud. Like a 14 yr old kid at boarding school shooting off his mouth to
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 08:15 PM
Jul 2016

impress the other rich kids - lest they find out how scared he really is.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,185 posts)
16. His dad sent him to military school
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 09:20 PM
Jul 2016

when he found out Donald and a friend skipped school and tried to buy switchblades. He was 13.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
30. and, the Donald's military school experience
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 05:12 PM
Jul 2016

was a lot tougher than soldiers who were in the actual army and in Vietnam.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
7. Hard for me to decide between tRump and DimSon (aka George W. Bush).
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 08:31 PM
Jul 2016

I never thought anyone could match DimSon, but I'm starting to wonder if DimDon has an edge on that idiot!

PatSeg

(47,419 posts)
33. Yes, I believe he does
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 05:31 PM
Jul 2016

Never thought it would be possible. I suppose GW was relatively manageable, whereas Trump can't be controlled for more than a day, if that long.

PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
37. President Bush had professionals running his campaign
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 06:21 PM
Jul 2016

Donald Trump thinks he's a pro. But he's not.

He's an idiot.

yardwork

(61,599 posts)
9. I remember Wallace. Trump is worse.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 08:39 PM
Jul 2016

Also, Wallace didn't get the Republican nomination.

Pat Buchanan was also very bad, but he didn't get the nomination either.

Trump is worse because he is a full blown malignant Narcissist. And he's the nominee.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
11. Trump
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 08:48 PM
Jul 2016

And I've been aware of the elections since1968. Even Nixon was somewhat qualified.

Even friggin Reagan had been a governor.

MFM008

(19,808 posts)
12. I was born under Eisenhower
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 08:51 PM
Jul 2016

I was 3 when Kennedy waved at me when his motorcade went by.
Rump is a disgrace to humanity.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
21. Wallace was really bad, but he had government experience. He was a racist when the south was,
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:33 AM
Jul 2016

Trump is a racist and there is no cultural milieu excuse today.

localroger

(3,626 posts)
15. Surprised not to see Saint Reagan mentioned more
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 09:17 PM
Jul 2016

Reagan's legacy has been very effectively whitewashed. There is hardly any record of just what a moving gaffe machine he was in his day, or the simple naked fact that his only real skill or experience was acting -- he was playing the President, not being the President. And in his second term it became very obvious the Alzheimer's was eating away at him.

But the one thing I will credit Reagan with is that he knew he was an actor playing a role, and while the people who were really running the country were corrupt and evil they mostly weren't too stupid and it was in their interests to avoid things like nuclear war. GWB was also elected to be a useful idiot but unlike Reagan he thought he was running the country, surrounded himself with equally stupid sycophants who told him what he wanted to hear, and thus we got 9/11 and Iraq.

As for Trump, everyone thinks he brings "business skills" to the picture even though the skills he is using to win the election are his carnival barker / reality show pitchman chops. He is very good at positioning himself and making himself the most important person in the room, and extremely dangerous because he believes he is the smartest person in the room even though he is really a very shallow and venal shell of a human being. We were all afraid Reagan might accidentally fire the missiles but Trump is vain and full enough of himself to do it quite deliberately, and he won't tolerate the company of anyone who might dissuade him from anything his ego tells him to do.

nruthie

(466 posts)
17. Trump is definitely the worst.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 10:04 PM
Jul 2016

I've been around for 74 years and have seen a lot, but this one is everything loathsome all wrapped up in one hidious package. Evil personified. Horrifying.

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
18. Goldwater was right up there...
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 10:08 PM
Jul 2016

Goldwater and Trump are equally dangerous and each would have no problem launching nuclear weapons at the drop of a hat.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
19. Perot was bad.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 10:15 PM
Jul 2016

But Trump is so much worse. I can go back to Reagan and I haven't seen anything like this.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
22. One of the Republican candidates (several actually...) completely nailed Trump. He's a
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:37 AM
Jul 2016

caricature of all the repugnant and negative qualities that have come to represent that party. He's basically a walking joke of a man that even his own party didn't want (except for the bigots and tea party extremists).

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
23. He's amazingly bad. Let's hope he stays the worst candidate.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:51 AM
Jul 2016

I thought Mitt Romney was the worst, but that is soooo 2012. Romney is a friggin' pussycat, now, compared to Trump the hungry tiger in my telephone booth. I feel like that fucker wants to hurt me, just for seeing through his ridiculous facade and daring to say it.

I've seen candidates as ignorant (W), and I've seen candidates as dishonest (Romney), and I've seen candidates as hateful (Dole), and I've seen candidates as racist (Duke), and I've seen candidates as evil (Nixon).

But I have never seen a mere candidate simultaneously lower the level of public discourse and raise the level of politically motivated violence at the same time. I've never seen a candidate whose mere existence as a losing candidate is a threat to national security. I've never seen a person so consumed by vapid evil and so unabashedly proud of it.

If someone told me that Donald Trump was specifically created by Cthulhu to destroy the world, I'd half believe it at this point. It will take America years to recover from his failed candidacy. If he wins, I fear someone might nuke us on election night just to be the first in on it. I wish I were just trying to be funny.

And then there's the generation of hateful racists who have been given false hope and the opportunity to organize around him. It breaks my heart to see Democrats on the verge of total success, and to see the seeds of America's total destruction being planted everywhere at the same time.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
24. I'm pretty sure Trump is the worst republican conserative candidate in my life...
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 04:15 PM
Jul 2016

Which takes us back toward Dewey, but I'm not quite old enough to actually remember Dewey. But Dewey's faults were that he accepted most of FDR's New Deal, not that he (Dewey) was totally ill-prepared.

I suspect there is a good chance that Trump may be the worst candidate the republicans have nominated in their entire history. That would be since before the American Civil War


greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
34. as bad as Wallace was
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 05:35 PM
Jul 2016

he had been elected to something before and had a little government experience. Trump is worse.

still_one

(92,187 posts)
35. Wallace was at least as bad as Trump, and just as racist. The other danger of Wallace was his VP
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 05:50 PM
Jul 2016

pick of Lemay, who had no qualms of using nuclear weapons, and advocated a first strike use during the Cuban Missile Crisis

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
27. I'm a lot older than you, but I'd put Trump up with Goldwater, who also had the nomination.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 05:05 PM
Jul 2016

Wallace was a one issue guy - and it dealt with blacks. Goldwater vs Trump is a very fair comparison. Both as dangerous as hell, and egos that were larger than they were.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
28. There have been a lot of really horrendous and/or ridiculous minor candidates.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 05:08 PM
Jul 2016

George Wallace was one of the worst of those who ever got any traction. But, interestingly, shortly before he died he recanted his racist positions and asked for forgiveness from the Black community. I don't think Trump would ever recant or apologize for anything. Wallace was an old-time populist/segregationist politician, and (unfortunately) those weren't unique. Trump is something else altogether: he's a narcissist with no real principles at all other than whatever makes him look good. For that reason he's more dangerous than Wallace ever could have been.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
32. He is bad at the one GOP fundamental that really matters to them: money.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 05:30 PM
Jul 2016

He can't raise money and he won't spend his own (probably because he has much less than he brags about). Trump is a failure at Job No. 1.
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trof

(54,256 posts)
38. See your 20 and raise you 50.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 06:34 PM
Jul 2016

I'll be 75 in August.
Never thought I'd see worse than shrub.
I was wrong.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
39. I always thought McCain ran a horrible campaign and was a poor candidate.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 06:38 PM
Jul 2016

Much worse than the Bush campaign. Trump tops them all.

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