Kind of disturbing seeing DUers here making fun of an immigrant's accent

[davidn3600]

Seems some here are showing some true colors...

Seriously....there are plenty of better things to attack Trump on. Attacking his wife's accent is way below the belt.

[PragmaticLiberal]

1. Yeah, I agree.

That was really weak.

[laserhaas]

32. ^^^^^^ This times 100 ^^^^^

Be better..do better

[L. Coyote]

114. Or, go on Late Night TV and get paid millions for doing it.

Colbert: Melania Trump Did Not Plagiarize Her RNC Speech

Writer of Melania Trump's "First Lady" Speech Says Melania Lied.

[awake]

2. I belive it has to do with his hypocrisy on immigration

She only came to this country 20 years ago while Trump wants to kick out people who have been here for way over 20 years

[Rhiannon12866]

3. ×1!

Exactly.

[NYC Liberal]

10. How does making fun of an accent point out hypocrisy?

[AgadorSparticus]

12. Some accents are apparently ok. Others are not. That's the discrepancy.

I'll let you figure out which ones are and which ones arent.

[greiner3]

29. Non

, niet, nein , etc... To your post. And where did YOUR ancestors come from? Do ya think they were mocked for THEIR accents. Unless you are Native American then they were mocked for so much more

[anneboleyn]

43. People like Anne Coulter ridicule democratic immigrants w/accents for being un-American.

People here are pointing out that it is hypocritical for repubs like Coulter to condemn democratic immigrants with accents as un-American while supporting a woman who has lived for twenty years in the United States yet still has an extremely thick accent. If Melania were a democratic Coulter and others would blather on incessantly about her thick accent and her unwillingness to polish her English in order to be a "true 'Murican"

[Silver_Witch]

85. That's not what they are doing

And you know it. They are being hypocrites. Fine for dems to make fun of an immegrant but not when they do it

Please don't defend ugly behavior

[Squinch]

116. There have been no threads making fun of Melania's accent. Despite repeated requests, no

one has produced any. Site searches have not revealed any. And yet you keep pretending those threads exist, and accusing DU contributors of "ugly behavior" that never happened.

Why is that?

[Silver_Witch]

118. None are so blind....

There are SUCH in this thread see #9 below 9. I know! Count Chocula was doing her best!

Sorry I have a broken arm at this time and cuttin-n-pasting for some who refuses to see even in this thread the ugliness is a waste of my time.

[Squinch]

119. So ONE post, that was posted long AFTER the OP was written complaining about people making

fun of Melania when NO ONE had made fun of Melania constitutes "all the ugliness" you are seeing?

This whole issue is nothing but ignorant trollish pinebagger nonsense.

Your concern for DU's integrity is noted.

Tell all your friends.

[Silver_Witch]

120. No idea what you are talking about.

I told you I am not able at this time to search DU to find what you want...if you dont care to look i cant help you,

DU has no integrity it is a website...not a person.

[Squinch]

121. Pinebaggers are often confused. And no, you can't help me, because the threads do not exist.

Proving that this straw man about "making fun of Melania's accent" is simple trollery, plain and simple.

[karadax]

4. I never expected a "speak english" crowd here on DU.

We are supposed to be better than this. C'mon people.

[840high]

14. Another double standard. It's only

ok to NOT speak English if you're a democrat.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

16. When are you going to pull the mask off already?

Every post is a shot at Democrats.

Every post is a shot at this board.

Every post is in agreement with a right leaning point.

What's your cave name?

Why are you here?

Here, I'll give you a layup....Rudy Giuliani's speech tonight was embarrassing.....agree?

[Hekate]

18. Frustrating...

...isn't it.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

19. There's a whole list of people who are here to undermind

Not one negative about Republicans, ever.

[AgadorSparticus]

94. Yep. It is obvious, too.

[bettyellen]

23. He won't say a bad thing about a moment of the RNC, lol.

Some want to bring on the end times, revolution, whatever. No ones attacking them and that's all that matters.

[Squinch]

81. And in the meantime, I wish ONE of them would post a link to ONE thread where someone made

fun of Melania's accent on DU.

[Silver_Witch]

86. And so u have several links and no response to those.

Perhaps some here still believe it is not okay to make fun of people for things they can't control. Shame on the Dems for bad behavior. Let's not become republicans okay?

[Squinch]

88. I have seen no links whatsoever. Shame on the faux Dems who transparently toss out strawmen

here and who openly support Trump elsewhere.

And let's not pretend that anyone who would make strawman arguments here to make Democrats look bad, and who support Trump elsewhere are Democrats, okay?

[giftedgirl77]

84. It gets to a pont where you can only shake your head.

[yuiyoshida]

17. you would be surprised!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014800179#post2

[lapfog_1]

5. I wasn't making fun of her accent

but I was wondering how the racist immigrant hating imbeciles would take her having a strong accent.

[TeddyR]

6. Yeah

Disappointing. If Republicans did this the left would kill them for it.

[liberalnarb]

15. LOL. Oh please. They do much worse all the time.

[TeddyR]

22. Nobody claimed they don't

Doesn't excuse the petty and in some cases offensive attacks on Trump's wife though.

[Demsrule86]

25. I have no love for Trumps wife...

And Michelle Obama endured much worse...why the support for Trump's wife?

[TeddyR]

40. When did it become ok for Dems to attack a candidate's spouse?

When did family members become acceptable objects for political attack? You yourself said Michelle has endured worse, but that doesn't excuse attacks on a Republican candidate's family. And people on here weren't questioning her political views, which would be fair game, but were attacking her personally because of her speaking skills and heavy accent. I recognize that Republicans have engaged in these types of attacks, but they are childish, despicable and shouldn't be condoned.

[VulgarPoet]

42. Around the same time it became okay for Clinton supporters to attack "pinebaggers".

People don't care so long as it isn't their tribe in the crosshairs-- to pretend otherwise might as well be hypocrisy nowadays.

[Demsrule86]

45. I don't even know what a pinebagger is .

And I am a Clinton supporter. I will say this...it seems most who are so outraged on Melania's behalf did not support Hillary Clinton in the primary.

[VulgarPoet]

47. Browse downthread a little is all I'll say.

As for pointing out the outrage, I'm not gonna lie, I'm starting to notice it too-- and I'm a little confused by it. The only thing that irks me about all this is that there's at least one thread in GD:2016 that even stoops to blatant sexism, isn't that something we're supposed to be against?

[Demsrule86]

52. Yeah and I didn't see one who supported Clinton in the primary either.

You have to wonder when they pounce on any attacks on the GOP by Democrats who want to win as not important or my favorite over the top...and then advise us to concentrate on something else. Yet if Hillary says anything she needs to move right on Syria or left on the VP choice...and on and on it goes.

[Silver_Witch]

87. We might not have supported her but we never

Supported attacks on her speech, dress or hair style. That is wrong on both sides.

[Demsrule86]

96. This is an election that will potentially allow the winner to select five justices.

She is in the game...Hillary is attacked non-stop...and I don't understand the concern for Melania...I can't stand her. I have no sympathy for her.

[Silver_Witch]

117. I hear you - do you hear?

I have concern for all woman and think none should be called names. You have no sympathy....that is clear.

I have sympathy for all woman....each and every one when we are treated as none beings and that is wrong.

[Demsrule86]

122. Really your concern is noted.

[Silver_Witch]

123. why are you noting my concern?

you don't care what I think so why follow me around?

[Squinch]

90. Democratic Underground's purpose is to support Democratic candidates. Pinebaggers do not support

the Democratic presidential candidate, they celebrate sexism, they promote and believe every conspiracy theory that has ever been written about Hillary Clinton and the American government in general, and many of them openly support Trump.

When it comes to politics and DU and JPR, we have all chosen our tribe. Pinebaggers are fair game here.

[Demsrule86]

44. It seems many of you had no trouble attacking Bill Clinton during the primary.

And she stole material from Mrs. Obama...and she was being used by the campaign thus I have no problem with it. I am surprised that any Democrat is defending her.

[TeddyR]

49. Separate issues

First, who are the "many of you" you reference? I never attacked Bill Clinton. Frankly think he was a good president.

The plagiarism issue is separate so don't try to conflate the two. She deserves whatever criticism she gets for that act, but that wasn't what she was being attacked for last night. She was subjected to personal attacks last night. Those types of attacks were plainly inappropriate and childish and I can't believe anyone on this board would defend them.

[Demsrule86]

50. No it is not

Spouses involved in the campaign are fair game, and she stole material from Michelle Obama...seems disturbing to see DUer's defending the GOP. Michelle Obama certainly was attacked by the right.

[Sheepshank]

113. stolen intelectual property to be used to elect Trump is off limits? I don't think so.

[DLCWIdem]

111. excuse me. Didn't I see a post by you about Bill Clinton

In fact, I have seen many post on Bill on this site. The post about her accent pointed out how the repugs are saying one thing about her accent and another about other immigrants accents. Its the repugs who are being criticized not Melania. Although I don't think much of someone who hears what Trump says and doesn't take issue with it but rather defends what he says as great.

[LanternWaste]

69. You'll be so kind as to point us to a link containing this alleged "disappointment," yes?

You'll be so kind as to point us to a link containing this alleged "disappointment," yes?

[zappaman]

74. I think they're still looking...

[Silver_Witch]

7. Didn't they tell you it is okay as long as

You only make fun of republicans? No? Well now you know. No grown ups here.

[840high]

13. ...!100++++

[VulgarPoet]

36. inb4 it's the same people who got pissy about WillyT and Manny... eom

[emulatorloo]

54. Manny wanted McCain to be president instead of Obama. Willy's a homophobe and racist

Manny wanted election 2008 overturned. Never said a bad thing about Republicans, constantly bashed Democrats. Every OP was potstirring anti-democratic divisive flamebait.

Willy T wrote and quadrupled down on "Stockholm Syndrome", the most vile homophobic and racist OP I've ever seen on DU.

It is fine if you want the hero-worship the self-admitted Reagan voter and the racist. Doesn't mean the rest of were fooled.

[VulgarPoet]

55. Literally half of this, I've never seen before.

And no one's ever really gone on at length about their shortcomings-- I'll have to look into this when I'm off work.

[emulatorloo]

56. Willy eventually deleted "Stockholm Syndrome" so all you'll see is "post deleted"

He argued AA voters and LGBT voters who supported HRC were ignorant and mentally ill.

Manny continually distorted Obama's record and Falsely claimed Democrats wanted to implement the Paul Ryan Budget. Yet never said a bad thing about Ryan himself or criticized any Republican.

Admins eventually wised up to his blatant trollery.

Look I really don't want to be speaking ill of former DU'ers but there are solid reasons why some were "pissy" about divisive rhetoric.

Take care and have a great day.

[VulgarPoet]

57. Aye, you too.

Here's hoping at least SOME of this stuff still exists-- or that someone was wise enough to get screencaps. Feel free to message me sometime, spin me up a bit on some of the stuff I'd missed.

[Demsrule86]

46. Grown ups who want to win elections use what they have.

Mrs. Trump was acting for the campaign and plagiarized for heaven's sake so I have no issue with any person who condemns that. I fail to understand the outrage voiced by some here.

[Greywing]

8. I think she did well and came off very sweet ... but the speech just wasn't from the heart

so was not very engaging. I just cant see her as being a part of this screaming, fear-mongering throng.

[anneboleyn]

39. Yeah...because it was plagiarized?

[MyNameGoesHere]

9. I know! Count Chocula was doing her best!

[anneboleyn]

35. SNORTS You owe me a Starbucks grande mocha.

[Dem2]

11. I agree - it's silly

[The empressof all]

20. Honestly I was surprised by her thick accent

As someone who married into a family that values appearances I would have thought that she would have worked with a vocal coach at some point over these many years to help her with that. Honestly, with all of her work in business and with charities I can't imagine that it couldn't help her to sound a bit more "natural". Languages are hard. I have tried to learn other languages a number of times without much sucess so I do give her credit....but it was surprising.

[glennward]

66. It's only Mexicans the GOP requires to speak perfect English after being here over 5 years. nt

[TexasBushwhacker]

73. I thought so too. She's been here 20 years

She speaks to Barron in Slovenian though. I don't know how much she and Donald converse, but I imagine he does all the talking.

[John Poet]

21. I would think Trump's own "real American" anti-immigrant delegates

would be put off by it... to put it mildly.

Then they'll probably go back to hate-festing the Jewish speakers...

[Demsrule86]

24. Too bad she stole Michelle Obama's 2008 speech. nt

[Rose Siding]

26. Seem to recall it was fair game to mock Schwartznegger

Is this different?

But it's true that there are plenty of other things about both of them to criticize.

[vegetarian x]

27. They made fun of Melania for many irrelevant reasons. Including cruelty.

I think there's some misogyny involved here, too.

[Squinch]

33. LOL! No, dear. I think the word you are looking for is "plagiarism."

[vegetarian x]

34. Thanks, dear. Musta been those autofill gremlins again.

[randome]

28. She was likely a mail order bride.

I have an uncle who is somewhat "Trump-ist". He's a hell of a lot smarter than Trump but far too self-promoting and controlling, etc. But he has money. He went through a series of mail order brides because most people couldn't stand being around him for long. I'd bet that's how things unfolded with Trump, too.
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[vegetarian x]

31. Actually, I think Donald just had a punch list.

[Squinch]

30. Check it out! A thread FULL of pinebaggers! Who made fun of Melania's accent? I haven't seen anyone

doing any such thing.

Do post a link, assuming you are able to.

[zappaman]

41. pinebaggerz are always good for a laugh

[Squinch]

60. I think they met in their clubhouse and filled up their water balloons before they made this thread.

[Sunlei]

37. I find her accent endearing, she is beautiful and appears very charming.

[anneboleyn]

38. People like Anne Coulter have ridiculed immigrants for years. Yet not one word

about Melania, who has been in the US for nearly twenty years, yet still struggles with an extremely thick accent. Coulter goes after democratic immigrants who speak with accents all the time, accusing them of deliberately not polishing their English, being anti-American, using their accents for political points, etc etc. So I think people are finding it very ironic that the woman the Repubs are supporting (including Coulter herself) speaks with an extremely thick accent after twenty years of residency in the United States.

[NCTraveler]

48. If she wants to be a white supremacist with an accent it's on her. Nt

[emulatorloo]

53. Kind of disturbing to see Strawman arguments to prop up Trump Campaign

[Squinch]

65. But not at all surprising, given the names. The masks are finally coming off.

[tallahasseedem]

67. +100 and more

It's becoming way too obvious.

[Setsuna1972]

58. I have a rather strong accent myself

So I won't make any jokes about hers. But everything else about this total clusterfuck of s convention is fair game !

[Squinch]

68. Except I haven't seen anyone here making fun of her accent. Have you?

[Setsuna1972]

72. No

The OP stated that people here on DU were, but so far I haven't seen any of that .

[Squinch]

75. And they were asked for a link hours ago, and yet no one has posted any. I think they might

be just dealing with the terrible people in their imaginations again. Or just setting up stupid straw men.

[geek tragedy]

59. your concern is duly noted nt

[Squinch]

61. I asked for a link of anyone making fun of her accent, but so far nothing. Not very surprised.

[geek tragedy]

62. people who have promised never to vote for Mr. Trump's opponent certainly raise

questions about their own bias when it comes to the race, that's for sure.

[Squinch]

63. Nah. I don't have any questions. They've been perfectly clear what side they're on.

And it ain't ours.

[geek tragedy]

64. indeed nt

[LanternWaste]

70. You'll of course, supply us with a link illustrating your allegation, yes?

You'll of course, supply us with a link illustrating your allegation (plural DUers mocking her accent in such a way as to interpreted as nothing else), yes?

Else we may be compelled to assign your true colors, as well...

[okieinpain]

71. im sorry but hearing someone say

"make america great again" in a russian accent is funny as hell to me.

[mainstreetonce]

76. She has been here long enough

to get a good English coach.

[The_Casual_Observer]

77. You mean like "The United Estates?"

[TheFarseer]

78. I thought that to

No one had a problem with Teresa Heinz Kerry's accent. Well maybe Rush Limbaugh.

[Squinch]

79. But who on DU had a problem with Melania's accent? I haven't seen anyone making fun of it, and

neither has anyone else I have asked. And none of those who are so concerned about it have been able to come up with a link.

It's just a big strawman from the wonderful folks who hang out at the Trump-love site.

[TheFarseer]

91. There was whole thread about it last night.

Title was something like "that accent should disqualify her from being first lady "There's lots of things to go after the Trumps on but I don't think the fact that English is her second or third language is something to go after. I'd link but I'm on a kindle and am not sure how and I do not post on any other political boards. If you wanted to find it it wouldn't be hard.

[Squinch]

92. Site searched "accent disqualify," "Melania accent disqualify," "Melania accent." Got nothing.

[TheFarseer]

93. It must have been deleted because it didn't sound good at all

Not sure why you think a bunch of us would make this up. But I did find "can melania trump who holds a Slovenian passport be first lady." Now quit making me defend melania trump. I feel really stupid doing it.

[JI7]

95. that sounds more like an attack on Trump's position on immigration . nobody has been able to show

people making fun of her accent .

[Squinch]

99. And if it had happened, they would have been able to produce it. It never happened.

[Squinch]

98. I think people made it up because I don't believe it happened, and no one can produce

any proof that it did, and now you are saying, "It must have been deleted."

Pretty lame ass.

A nasty straw man to make DU look bad. It's not the first time that crowd has cooked one of those up.

[TheFarseer]

100. Fine, we all made it up. Everyone on this thread.

Anything so you'll shut up about it.

[Squinch]

103. No, very few on this thread actually. The rest are saying this is bullshit. And when I "shut up

about it" it will have nothing to do with anything you have said or not said.

[TheFarseer]

115. You care about this way more than I do

I was just agreeing with the OP, so jump all over him please.

[JustAnotherGen]

80. I've avoided that

And those threads/posts. My husband's could be made fun of quite easily.

However - he is accomplished, talented and made his own way in America without a benefactor.

[Doodley]

82. I find her accent to be very sexy.

Or is that not PC.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

83. I haven't seen any evidence of this. Please provide a link. nt

[heresAthingdotcom]

89. Her English was better than 98% of those in attendance....

... the issue isn't how she spoke...but what she spoke.....

I was actually impressed with her fluency... first time I ever heard her speak... on clips as I didn't watch the speech...

[genna]

97. In all fairness, I make fun of most people's accents

including the one's in my home state. Although I acknowledge the fact that petty humor such as an accent used to be below the belt, things have been different since W could not handle basic sentence structure.

I think the Daily Show, Saturday night live, and Will Ferrell type takes on politicians have normalized things like this. There isn't much policy to take on when it comes to Trump.

After the way Trump has conducted himself, would someone from his side have any standing to complain?

It is the would you want to have drink at a bar with the candidate question: no. I don't want to drink with Trump.
I don't want to drink with the wife.
I don't want to be in a room with the children.

The more I dislike them, the more ridicule I can see myself dishing out to any of them.

[Squinch]

106. What made you uneasy? Link to any threads making fun of Melania's accent. It didn't happen.

So you can stop being uneasy.

[Squinch]

109. And yet you were made very "uneasy" by this thing that didn't happen.

[Purveyor]

105. Hypocrisy knows no bounds... nt

[Squinch]

110. Exactly. This is a total straw man. No one can produce any of these terrible threads where DUers

are supposed to have been making fun of Melania's accent.

Or did you mean something else?

[Orsino]

108. Attack Trump for putting (yet another) talentless know-nothing behind a mike, maybe...

...but the Constitution mandates no nationality or accent.

[Sheepshank]

112. Kinda interesting that of all people, Republicans are being asked to accept a person......

....with Communist parents, and a Russian-y accent to live in the WhiteHouse. I find that mind bogglingly interesting and a lesson in extreme hypocrisy on their part.