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I just un-muted my TV long enough to hear Ben Carson connect Hillary with Lucifer. (Original Post) pnwmom Jul 2016 OP
He's talking about her allegiance to Saul Alinsky Maven Jul 2016 #1
Ben Carson is a dangerous looney-tune and so is anyone who listens to him. pnwmom Jul 2016 #4
Only Ben can explain.... JohnnyLib2 Jul 2016 #2
This is the context - Ben Carson is the black man who embraces white supremacy Doodley Jul 2016 #3
My god PatSeg Jul 2016 #5
I was just getting sleepy and realized C_U_L8R Jul 2016 #6
Crazy bravenak Jul 2016 #7
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2016 #8
Rules for Radicals by Saul Alinsky is Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #9
Did he say anything about the pyramids tonight? yardwork Jul 2016 #10
No. NT Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #18
Is it true that she wrote her thesis about Alinsky? Beaverhausen Jul 2016 #13
Yes, she did. But this is what Forbes has to say about Alinsky: pnwmom Jul 2016 #15
Thanks Beaverhausen Jul 2016 #17
Forbes says Alinsky dedicated the book to his wife, Irene, not to Lucifer. pnwmom Jul 2016 #14
Also, Rules for Radicals was published in 1971 Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #19
Thanks! pnwmom Jul 2016 #20
she did ?? flamingdem Jul 2016 #21
I laughed out loud at this. yardwork Jul 2016 #11
I shut it off during Christie tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #12
It's Carson's Law PJMcK Jul 2016 #16
These people are crazier than we thought Johnny2X2X Jul 2016 #22

Maven

(10,533 posts)
1. He's talking about her allegiance to Saul Alinsky
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 10:43 PM
Jul 2016

Who apparently loves Lucifer. Hence Hillary loves Lucifer and cannot pledge allegiance to one nation under God. Make sense?

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
6. I was just getting sleepy and realized
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 10:47 PM
Jul 2016

Ben Carson was on tell scary bedtime stories about the
prince of darkness and the Democratic candidate.
Poor Ben puts everyone to sleep.

Anyone ever notice whenever these republicans say
a Jewish person's name - they give it an over-dramatic
delivery - like they're saying Lucifer or Chopped Liver.
It's not so subtle and take it as clear hate message.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
9. Rules for Radicals by Saul Alinsky is
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 10:49 PM
Jul 2016

...dedicated to Lucifer, a radical who won a kingdom.

HRC wrote her senior thesis on Alinsky and therefore acknowledges Lucifer and can't lead a nation with coins which say "In God We Trust."

(Dr. Ben Carson's logic)

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
15. Yes, she did. But this is what Forbes has to say about Alinsky:
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 11:07 PM
Jul 2016
Rules for Radicals, popular lore aside, is not dedicated to Lucifer, but to “Irene” — Saul’s wife and soulmate. Alinsky considered the highest good to be human dignity. Rules for Radicals, p. 122:

We learn, when we respect the dignity of the people, that they cannot be denied the elementary right to participate fully in the solutions to their own problems. Self-respect arises only out of people who play an active role in solving their own crises and who are not helpless, passive, puppet-like recipients of private or public services.

Alinsky can be thought of as of “the non-socialist left” as described by his biographer Sandy Horwitt. Alinsky resembles Thomas Paine and was an inveterate enemy of Leninists.



http://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/2012/01/16/dear-president-obama-youre-no-saul-alinsky/#4106272a1693

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
14. Forbes says Alinsky dedicated the book to his wife, Irene, not to Lucifer.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 11:05 PM
Jul 2016

Despite the claims on a lot of far right sites.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/2012/01/16/dear-president-obama-youre-no-saul-alinsky/#81abc31693f6

Rules for Radicals, popular lore aside, is not dedicated to Lucifer, but to “Irene” — Saul’s wife and soulmate. Alinsky considered the highest good to be human dignity. Rules for Radicals, p. 122:

We learn, when we respect the dignity of the people, that they cannot be denied the elementary right to participate fully in the solutions to their own problems. Self-respect arises only out of people who play an active role in solving their own crises and who are not helpless, passive, puppet-like recipients of private or public services.

Alinsky can be thought of as of “the non-socialist left” as described by his biographer Sandy Horwitt. Alinsky resembles Thomas Paine and was an inveterate enemy of Leninists.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
19. Also, Rules for Radicals was published in 1971
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 12:53 AM
Jul 2016

...and HRC wrote her senior thesis in 1969.

And Alinsky was an agnostic.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
16. It's Carson's Law
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 11:10 PM
Jul 2016

You know, like Godwin's Law is to Hitler and Nazis. Carson's Law is to Satan and devil-worshipping.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
22. These people are crazier than we thought
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 02:06 AM
Jul 2016

Absolutely insane. This group wants totalitarianism and fascism all in the name of freedom and religion. This is not a lunatic fringe, it's an entire party. This is a rise of American Fascism and it's not over with this election, they could gain power here.

These are the types of people so filled with hate that could easily throw their fellow citizens into ovens. It's scary and I don't think anyone has the answers to deal with this growing group of extremists.

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