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What were our reactions to selection of Biden over Clinton for VP? (Original Post) piechartking Jul 2016 OP
I was Ok with it because of his foreign policy experience....nt asuhornets Jul 2016 #1
I was glad. Mika Jul 2016 #2
You must have been pretty disappointed that Obama picked Biden. annavictorious Jul 2016 #7
Yes. I was disappointed. Mika Jul 2016 #10
It's funny how airbrushed Obama's record was. annavictorious Jul 2016 #16
The lead seat, the first chair, in the cabinet, is the Secretary of State. MADem Jul 2016 #9
She picked the job? I thought that the prez did the picking. Mika Jul 2016 #12
Try re-reading the post. Obama gave her a choice. nt MADem Jul 2016 #15
LOL. She won the coin toss. Mika Jul 2016 #24
I was a Clinton supporter in 2008. annavictorious Jul 2016 #3
I was ambivalent... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #4
I was good with Biden. one_voice Jul 2016 #5
I liked Biden ram2008 Jul 2016 #6
The alternative to Biden wasn't Clinton, it was Evan Bayh, so Biden was considered geek tragedy Jul 2016 #8
I don't recall feeling one way or the other about Biden. I was supporting Obama and his VP choice... NurseJackie Jul 2016 #11
Kaine is fluent in Spanish, which is a big consideration. MADem Jul 2016 #17
I just hope she's not fighting the last war piechartking Jul 2016 #18
I'm sure Hillary and her team have nothing to be concerned about. NurseJackie Jul 2016 #20
Perfect example of why in the Democratic Party world, the VP pick doesn't mean much. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #13
She got the better job exboyfil Jul 2016 #14
I was HRC voter also. HRC as a VP would have just wasted HER potential. Her Sister Jul 2016 #19
I wasn't happy. sofa king Jul 2016 #21
I was happy with it treestar Jul 2016 #22
I was pleased with the pick Capt. Obvious Jul 2016 #23
 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
7. You must have been pretty disappointed that Obama picked Biden.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:15 PM
Jul 2016

Biden voted for the Iraq war AND greased the wheels for Clarence Thomas's confirmation Supreme Court. Did you vote for Obama or was it a deal breaker?

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
10. Yes. I was disappointed.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:18 PM
Jul 2016

Then again, I knew that Obama wasn't the "most liberal senator" as our faithful msm constantly reported.





 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
16. It's funny how airbrushed Obama's record was.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:23 PM
Jul 2016

I think that the media was also scared to death of accidentally saying something offensive and outing their own racial prejudices to the point where they were afraid to question and critique.

Had Biden not been VP, however, we would have missed out on 8 years of this:

http://www.theonion.com/search?q=%22joe-biden%22

MADem

(135,425 posts)
9. The lead seat, the first chair, in the cabinet, is the Secretary of State.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:16 PM
Jul 2016

Biden is said to have wanted that job, but Obama gave Clinton first pick.

She picked the right job.

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
12. She picked the job? I thought that the prez did the picking.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:20 PM
Jul 2016

I've had posts axed because of similar comments.




 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
3. I was a Clinton supporter in 2008.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:12 PM
Jul 2016

I didn't want her to be VP. I thought it might be a way to marginalize her.

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
4. I was ambivalent...
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:12 PM
Jul 2016

Now I couldn't imagine the last 8 years without him.

Not saying we'll like him like that, but at least let's give him a shot.

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
6. I liked Biden
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:15 PM
Jul 2016

Especially since the shortlist choices were Kaine and Bayh.

Hillary has more experience, so it kinda sucks she's going with Kaine over someone like Perez or Brown.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
8. The alternative to Biden wasn't Clinton, it was Evan Bayh, so Biden was considered
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:16 PM
Jul 2016

about as good as we could do

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
11. I don't recall feeling one way or the other about Biden. I was supporting Obama and his VP choice...
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:20 PM
Jul 2016

... didn't really matter much to me.

The choice of the person to fill the VP slot really shouldn't be thought of as some "consolation prize" for those who supported a different candidate, in my opinion.

If Hillary was just flipping a coin to make her decision, or if she'd made the decision in just a couple of days, then I'd wonder what was going on. But it's clear that this has been a very thoughtful, thorough and deliberate process. She's much smarter and politically sophisticated than her critics (and other assorted haters) give her credit for. When it comes to what's best for her campaign, and who she admires, and who she thinks she will be able to work well with... there can be no denying that Hillary knows more about that that we do. Whatever decision she has made will be the right one.

#ITrustHillary #ImWithHer

MADem

(135,425 posts)
17. Kaine is fluent in Spanish, which is a big consideration.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:28 PM
Jul 2016

Not "taco y cerveza" conversational, completely fluent. Plus he's got gubernatorial/executive experience in a fairly complex state, and experience on the Hill in DC. Also, as a former DNC chair, he is wired into the party infrastructure in a very grassroots way.

He is very well-rounded.

If it does turn out to be him, he'll do well, I think.

piechartking

(617 posts)
18. I just hope she's not fighting the last war
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:31 PM
Jul 2016

Everyone who likes trump will show up. White people vote.

She may be experienced and be smart for challenging a traditional candidate, but I worry the old rules don't apply to trump. Just a feeling but my gut could be wrong.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
13. Perfect example of why in the Democratic Party world, the VP pick doesn't mean much.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:20 PM
Jul 2016

Democratic presidents don't let the VP run things and set policy.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
14. She got the better job
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:21 PM
Jul 2016

Sec State. I don't think she would have gotten what she wanted from the VP. In a sense she had already been a White House staffer as First Lady. Other than the VP's legislative duties (Senate President) the role is kind of like that of a senior staffer anyway. Advise and execute policy of the President without having any actual authority.

SecDefs have their own "ship" to run. It is arguably the most critical Cabinet position (note it is first in succession in the Cabinet). It is a front line, high stakes job.

Biden was a good VP pick. Legislative experience and knowledge and ability to step into the Presidency if required.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
19. I was HRC voter also. HRC as a VP would have just wasted HER potential.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:54 PM
Jul 2016

I knew and was happy to switch to Obama when he became the nominee and was not expecting HRC as VP at all!

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
21. I wasn't happy.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:00 PM
Jul 2016

I was stupid enough to call him a "doofus" right here on DU, and to my horror I saw Karl Rove pick up the term and toss it around on Fox News only days later.

I will forever regret that. And Joe, thanks a lot. You've been great, and I was so wrong.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
22. I was happy with it
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:02 PM
Jul 2016

maybe excited someone from my state was actually running for a national office like that. Doesn't happen much to Delaware. That might have figured in. I remember a DU poster who made a post saying it was Biden because they were near Biden's house and it appeared the security apparatus was descending on it.

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
23. I was pleased with the pick
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:07 PM
Jul 2016

I thought he complimented Obama well - filling in the experience/age/foreign policy gap that would help Obama pull votes from outside the base that was already fired up to get out and vote.

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